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FW's FB page says they are readying the rules tomorrow, which happens to be a Sunday and April 1st.

I don't like the odds. I hope it is real and will be for sale, but it would be a pretty good prank.

evancich wrote:FW's FB page says they are readying the rules tomorrow, which happens to be a Sunday and April 1st.

I don't like the odds. I hope it is real and will be for sale, but it would be a pretty good prank.

And once again, Open Day is this time of year EVERY YEAR and Forge World has never done April 1st pranks in its entire history of being open.

Would people please stop saying this?

evancich wrote:FW's FB page says they are readying the rules tomorrow, which happens to be a Sunday and April 1st.

I don't like the odds. I hope it is real and will be for sale, but it would be a pretty good prank.

Seriously?

Enough of this "It's an April Fool's Joke!" stuff.

Forge World has had their Open Day near April 1st for years. They have never done an April Fool's Joke for their Open Day. They are not "readying the rules tomorrow", they are packaging the rules into the kits which will be for sale tomorrow available for purchase. The rules proper will not be on the website until it is for sale to everyone else.

FabricatorGeneralMike wrote:

cyphertheory wrote:

Stormeagle kit

FW shut up and take my money!!!! That is smexy =o]

That's the stormeagle? Aren't they meant to be huge? About manta sized?

Seriously?

Enough of this "It's not an April Fool's Joke!" stuff.

Forge World has had their Open Day near April 1st for years. They have never done an April Fool's Joke for their Open Day, which clearly means they can *NEVER* pull a prank.

Just like you can't use FW units in a "normal" 40k game. Oh wait...

guyperson5 wrote:That Predator variant's turret looks a bit like an old edition (not sure which) Predator turret.

It is a call-back to the original Rogue Trader Predator design, which had the domed turret.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

FabricatorGeneralMike wrote:

cyphertheory wrote:

Stormeagle kit

FW shut up and take my money!!!! That is smexy =o]

That's the stormeagle? Aren't they meant to be huge? About manta sized?

Probably, but that's changed now. If they were Manta size FW would be charging ~$2,000 for them and nobody would buy one. An affordable (this is not the Thunderhawk) but cool looking (this is not the Stormraven) aircraft is going to be huge among SM players.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
That's the stormeagle? Aren't they meant to be huge? About manta sized?

You're not thinking of the Stormbird, are you? They're the much bigger dropship, and extremely rare, if not completely gone, in the 41st millenium.

Padre^.

The Stormbird is what the Thunderhawk was replacing.

The Stormbird was large enough to land a company of Astartes and their support vehicles, etc at once.
There's also the Stormhawk which we do not have any images of yet(at least that I can think of) which is mentioned in "A Thousand Sons" as being a fightercraft of some sort.

Ah yeah, it was the stormbird that I was thinking of. They just all sound so familiar, you know?

Anyway, I actually like the storm eagle. It looks very sleek for a SM craft, and it the chapter marking on the door is a nice touch. Question is though, is it only a salamander symbol, or can it be any symbol?

I'm quite sure that even if it hasn't been mentioned in fluff anywhere, Chapters would absolutely currently have some big bulk lander that could handle a company + some vehicles in one drop (like the Stormbird), but it'd be so unfeasible in the game that it doesn't ever need to have rules. It's just like I'm very sure that Imerial Guard forces have dropships that can shuttle down an entire tank company in one go, not to mention the ones for Titans(!). The Imperium is widely known for it's huge OOT machinery,

It's not like it'd see a reason to be on even a Apocalypse table, either. All we really need to ever worry about are vehicles that are used for "hot drops" or are gunships, anyway.

On topic, I like the Predators, but not the Chaos walker. It's pretty 'visually boring', really. And I think the Stormhawk would look a lot better to me if the wings were more centrally mounted, like a Thunderhawk. That's a Marine flyer design that I like.

Kanluwen wrote:

Kepora wrote:

Nrljm wrote:I think an April fools joke like that would result in riots!

Actually, FW openly said that they use different resins for different things (Like one kind of resin for Land Raider parts, another for the Bio-Titan, another for infantry-sized guys, etc), and that they have used the Finecast resin (and resin mixes very close to it) for certain models, and they've had no issues with it.

And just to nip this in the bud...
They said they experimented with the Finecast resin last year. They cast up a number of small items, mainly Death Korps of Krieg models, using Finecast. The results were acceptable, but it wasn't really any different than them using their standard resin.

Bull crap we just placed an order around March this year for Chaos dwarves and they were definitely not the same resin or sprue or most importantly,
they came in clam shells like FC models.

part underlined. i know bro

ÆΞØИ wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Kepora wrote:

Nrljm wrote:I think an April fools joke like that would result in riots!

Actually, FW openly said that they use different resins for different things (Like one kind of resin for Land Raider parts, another for the Bio-Titan, another for infantry-sized guys, etc), and that they have used the Finecast resin (and resin mixes very close to it) for certain models, and they've had no issues with it.

And just to nip this in the bud...
They said they experimented with the Finecast resin last year. They cast up a number of small items, mainly Death Korps of Krieg models, using Finecast. The results were acceptable, but it wasn't really any different than them using their standard resin.

Bull crap we just placed an order around March this year for Chaos dwarves and they were definitely not the same resin or sprue or most importantly,
they came in clam shells like FC models.

part underlined. i know bro

And they have already talked about the clamshells as well.

They changed packaging for some items when GW started doing clamshells.

I haven't gotten anything in it yet, but I haven't ordered anything small enough to really be in it.

Edit, here's the exact statement as a reply to someone asking if the clamshells were foreshadowing of FW being available in normal GW shops:

Forge World wrote: Nope. We periodically change our packaging and the clampack option is a lot better. We wouldn't be able to meet the demand of wholesale production without significantly affecting our quality control.

Order some chaos dwarves so you can see first hand rather constantly "correcting" those of us that have actually bought the items.
Feel free to explain why the resin is different as well.

So what you're saying is Forge World is lying when they say that they are not using Finecast?

Because the resin that they've been using for their infantry models is not the same mixture as what is used for Finecast. It is solid, not springy like Finecast.

I should also add that you getting a model which is on a sprue or might actually BE a Finecast model is not a sign of them continuing to produce said models.
The way I've had it explained to me by them is this:
They do a large scale production run to start with, meeting a certain number. They then warehouse that specific number of models. When the stock begins to go down, they start casting more to fill the warehouse numbers back up.

What that means is this:
If you make an order for an item like the Heavy Bolter Tarantula Emplacement(this is my own personal example, mind you, as this is what happened to myself) it can feasibly come in packaging years old.

Kanluwen wrote:So what you're saying is Forge World is lying when they say that they are not using Finecast?

Because the resin that they've been using for their infantry models is not the same mixture as what is used for Finecast. It is solid, not springy like Finecast.

Im saying, those of us that bought it knows its not the same as normal FW resin.
What Im saying is, I really don't have the patience or the care to convince you in particular.
However, you are free to purchase some and then make your judgment prior to butting in everyone's business.

later man.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Ah yeah, it was the stormbird that I was thinking of. They just all sound so familiar, you know?

Anyway, I actually like the storm eagle. It looks very sleek for a SM craft, and it the chapter marking on the door is a nice touch. Question is though, is it only a salamander symbol, or can it be any symbol?

I feel your pain...I just hope they don't go down the track they did with the Baneblade variants...that was just puerile and embarassing...

Anyway, back OT...I would expect that the Eagle would accept any doors from the FW range... they look Rhino-door-sized (?).... probably will turn out they mounted the Sallie doors on it to show the compatability and match the paintjob...

The FW newsflash says "In recent decades the number of Storm Eagles in active service has begun to increase, especially amongst those Chapters known to have favourable relations with the Adeptus Mechanicus..." so looks like any Chapter it is...

Padre^.

Heh. And they gave a fluffy reason as to why there are suddenly storm eagles to be sold.
Well Played FW, well played.

Kanluwen wrote:The Stormbird is what the Thunderhawk was replacing.

The Stormbird was large enough to land a company of Astartes and their support vehicles, etc at once.
There's also the Stormhawk which we do not have any images of yet(at least that I can think of) which is mentioned in "A Thousand Sons" as being a fightercraft of some sort.

correct, but the stormeagle was mentioned in A Thousand Sons as well as the ship Russ used to drop down in

It looks nice. I really hope storm eagles have some variety in their weapons load out. It does bother me that it looks like all weapons are fixed in the forward position.

Do you think it'll be a super heavy, or just another version of the thunder turkey? I suspect the latter; by the looks of it, it appears to be a more aggressive version of the SR, judging by the huge missile launchers on the back. Probably less transport and more dakka.

Wont be superheavy, reckon itll be 40k legal. Basically the other chapters' version of the SR.

They stated on their FB page that it has no structure points in the experimental rules, so unless something changes it's not a superheavy.

Hmmm...come to think of it, my latest Death Guard bits I got are similar to FC resin in color and how they feel to the touch, but-as you said-it's a harder resin. The detail looks good though, so I'm happy!

Everyone - Please keep this thread on topic, and ratchet down the venom?

Start another thread about FW Resin over in Dakka Discussions if you must, but anything more along those lines here will be grounds for warnings and such.

Thanks!

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Do you think it'll be a super heavy, or just another version of the thunder turkey? I suspect the latter; by the looks of it, it appears to be a more aggressive version of the SR, judging by the huge missile launchers on the back. Probably less transport and more dakka.

the email said it has 20 transport capacity. So not really less, just about the same if you count the Dreadnought.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Do you think it'll be a super heavy, or just another version of the thunder turkey? I suspect the latter; by the looks of it, it appears to be a more aggressive version of the SR, judging by the huge missile launchers on the back. Probably less transport and more dakka.

hey, Hey, HEY!

Them's thar fighting words, young fella!

"Thunder Turkey"?!!!

You just leave the flying brick alone!

Padre^.

PS. and yes, definitely joking around...

The FW Decimator rules have been updated, and can be found here.


Not sure what's different, it looks about the same to me but I'm likely missing something obvious, maybe extra weapon options. I see all the marks are still 15 points no matter which.

The Heavy Conversion Beamer has been added.

I still think the weapon prices are silly. None of them seem to take into account the fact that you're giving up a CCW and a Heavy Flamer. So is a Butcher Cannon worth 20 points? Hell yes it is. But is it worth 20 points, the loss of a HTH attack and a heavy flamer? Hmm... not sure.

[EDIT]: They're a bit of a mess. The conversion beamer is printed twice. Does anyone remember if the Las-thingy, the Autocannon or the Soul Burner Petard had any additional special rules?

Looks to me like they've cranked it up by 10pts and given it SA12?