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i feel like if GW just lowered the prices and instead focused more on lowering cost of entry to below $100 in models at least for a 500pt starterbox and trying to sell each kit to 10x the number of people or convincing peopel to buy more of each kit, they would make a lot of money. Idk maybe people want multiple factions of the same army so they buy more models because they can now afford to express interest in a different faction. Maybe just me, but i feel like they are self-harming by raising cost of entry past $100 usd and not trying to market the kits to people who just simply wanna have kits to build and put on their shelf next to an tamiya m1a1 abrams, trumpeter yamato battleship, and revell 747 as a display piece, and not like a wargame model.

If they wanted to lower the cost of entry they'd move to free digital rules like every other wargame.

they really should. isn't it like $160+ usd just for rulebooks and random supplements and bs?

Blastaar wrote:

Cynista wrote:
I'm not overly annoyed about character pricing. Yes, they charge a premium, but that is to be expected from GW and they have always done it. What does grind my gears is when they charge an eye watering amount for a squad of 5 dudes, who may only be slightly different looking than another box that's much cheaper and in game are cheap in terms of points.

I expect that the new Flayed Ones, still yet to be released, will follow this pattern

No, characters have not aways been overpriced. As I said pages back, my metal Company Master was $15 when I bought him, as was my FailCast Librarian.

And you don't think that is overpriced relative to non characters and adjusted for inflation? Because it is. It might be worse now, but this has always been a thing.

 jaredb wrote:

 Argive wrote:
8 Pages huh..?

For better or worse GW is what it is and charges what it charges. EVERYONE knows their gak is premium priced.. Wether its worth it or not is purely subjective..
Is this really a debate?

This is the long and short of it. It's a premium product (whether you believe that or not), and it's priced accordingly. There is nothing else to it.

Some of it certainly is too expensive.
Some of it I can part my hard earned $$ for...

The idea that a kitbashed model is lesser than a regular one is a very foreign concept to me.

I get the reasoning behind WYSIWYG, and I would very much prefer a painted model and basically give a person a game or two with incomplete built models. But I wouldn't think anything of kitbashing one as lesser (well, maybe sprue crons) Especially character models. Those models can be expensive.

By and large, I get the character models despite the expense. I typically don't pay RRP looking for times and places to get a discount. However, I don't often kitbash them because I don't much care for building models in general and usually find converting/kitbashing a necessary evil to have more unique looking figures. I don't usually want to spend extra time and effort at the building phase when I want to get to the painting phase. So the 'premium' priced characters often work better for me. Not to mention, I generally like the look of how GW does the vanilla versions of their models. I won't deny that maybe I'm boring that way.

Still, I find it kinda hard to comprehend why anyone would care about how much their opponent did or didn't spend on their character models. Seems petty at best, and I don't want to mention what I think it means at worst.

Most of my characters are out of boxed sets (where the sheer mass of other stuff mitigates their 'on their own' cost) or they're _old_.

I've been going through my orks recently, and the characters that aren't Black Reach Warbosses are all metal. Mek with SAG, Mek with KFF, Weirdboy, Warboss w/ Big Choppa, an old Nob with Waaagh banner. All five metal characters might not have cost me $50 new.

For the newer stuff... if I can't find them in a boxed set, I just don't bother. Not going to pay $30-35 for one infantry model.