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 Just Tony wrote:

 Daba wrote:

 Insularum wrote:

 Da Boss wrote:
2e fans, commence telling me why I am the wrongest man in Western Europe.

You are wrong, it was perfect

Spoiler:

Unless you lost any cards
Or any of the specific custom to the game dice
Or you had gaps in your WD collection
Or you wanted to play a game over 2k points but you didn't have a 3 day weekend
Or your opponents were willing to take advantage of some of the more busted rules
Or you had to carry your entirely metal army anywhere
Or you had to call a game early because your opponent tried to get a whole squad of dudes to throw frag grenades and it took an hour to resolve all of the scatters, overlapping templates and stacked hits on dudes unlucky enough to be standing in the wrong place

2nd ed 40k needed a new edition akin to 5th -> 6th edition Warhammer Fantasy instead of throwing out the baby with the bathwater which is what we got in 3rd ed, of which the mistake still echo to this day.

I prefer 3rd. I think they made the EXACT right moves when they redid it. I also think that games of 3rd with the army lists in the BRB are the most balanced games of 40K you'll ever have.

Such genius ideas like removing the movement stat so you have to put in special rules to represent different kinds of movement because the core rules could no longer cope? The all or nothing armour save system that skewed games into leaning into weapons that would remove power (or better) armour (making terminators weak), so they had to have more special rules added? Then later leaning into immense weight of fire being the choice as the armour penetrating weapons were nerfed and costed up.

Not to mention that the characterhammer after 2nd was worse, as they could sweep through hordes of troops far better than anyone in 2nd could.

I would say 8th was a more balanced rulebook only experience. 3rd had the luck of being the only 'reset' for years (as 4-7th were just patches over the 3rd ed core that had overstayed its welcome), coming from the wild west. It's ironic that 10th went with reviving some 3rd edition things and the balance there was the worst it had been in a long time.

2nd was a wargame built on the framework of and RPG. It really needed to be trimmed and simplified if it wanted to get any bigger then a handful of models.

But 3rd cut way too deep. But then the bloat started back up.