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LDD...The gothic windows you've been going on about. What is your concern with them?

#40 basic block
http://www.hirstarts.com/molds/molds1.html


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Moar paint

That MiniArt 1/35 terrain looks REALLY good - and it looks to scale almost perfectly for 40K.

They have a LOT of ruins in 1/35 - do you think the various kits can be used together fairly easily and/or well?

I'm on the verge of splurging on quite a few of them...

Good paint Dave. I like the variation you've given the brickwork.

Alpharius- Thanks! The walls are all vacu-formed. Some of the solid walls are re-used through various kits, so yes, I think the idea is interchangability. Having said that, vacu-formed walls are a lot of work modeling-wise. Heavy putty work should be expected. Their Injection-molded styrene sprues are top quality though. I took the workshop kit and built a 2 story building by using only 1/2 of the walls.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-48594-30603_Miniart%20Workshop.html

Thanks Doc!

 dsteingass wrote:
Alpharius- Thanks! The walls are all vacu-formed. Some of the solid walls are re-used through various kits, so yes, I think the idea is interchangability. Having said that, vacu-formed walls are a lot of work modeling-wise. Heavy putty work should be expected. Their Injection-molded styrene sprues are top quality though. I took the workshop kit and built a 2 story building by using only 1/2 of the walls.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-48594-30603_Miniart%20Workshop.html

Hmmmm...

I admit to needing a bit more here!

Why will all the putty work be necessary - what is the putty covering up/fixing/improving?

I want to get a bunch of these kits - but now...maybe not so much?

Yeah, I thought you deserved a fair warning!

See this piece of ductwork, vacu-molded, you glue two halves together, then trim the excess away and suffer big gaps that need filled with putty, usually twice, then sanded smooth. These kits aren't like GW panels where you just clip them off the sprue and they fit together. Each wall is hollow unless you reinforce it with something inside too.

Ah, now I see!

Maybe I'll start off with 2 or 3 kits and go from there...

Thank you for the pictures, advice and, most importantly, the inspiration!


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Ah, now I see!

Maybe I'll start off with 2 or 3 kits and go from there...

Thank you for the pictures, advice and, most importantly, the inspiration!

I will note that the 1/35th scale models are actually OUT of scale for GW. Much larger, doorways too large, etc. But, with a bit of work, you can scale the openings down.

Everything Imperial is 'sposed to be big

Yeah, a few GW bits usually works the scale out

If you look at old American architecture, or at least historical sites here in Missouri, the sizes are ginormous. Touring the governors mansion a few weeks ago with my daughter the first floor is almost 17' high, and the doors went floor to almost ceiling. With these style kits I think it would be safe to use them in 40k, especially in the "nicer" areas of the hive.

Can you imagine a spacemarine trying to get through your front door right now. LOL.

I think oversized doors would be necessary.

nice paint progress there dave... the look is already very convincing and realistic looking... the vent pipes (?) specially!!!

Scale is so out of whack with 40K - I think these kits fit just fine!

Yes, I keep trying to tell these guys that we are all brainwashed by GW scale, but I just sound like the homeless, crazy doomsday guy in the park

Thanks guys!

 dsteingass wrote:
Yes, I keep trying to tell these guys that we are all brainwashed by GW scale, but I just sound like the homeless, crazy doomsday guy in the park

Thanks guys!

Better that than the dyslexic insomniac atheist philosipher who stayed up all night pondering if there really was a dog

Did someone mention Brainwashing?!?

With careful planning, it's possible to use the scale issues to the modeller's advantage though. Usually with the line "of course it's scaled correctly, just look at the size of [insert other model piece that's also obviously out of scale]"

You mean how a space marine scout is in scale with a cat catchcan guard

You have to remove the scalebusters, usually by replacing details with scratchbuilt options, or by adding instantly recognizable GW bits

 dsteingass wrote:
You have to remove the scalebusters, usually by replacing details with scratchbuilt options, or by adding instantly recognizable GW bits

Yeah QFT.
That's what I meant by "careful planning".

Yep, I knew that's what you meant

Great scenery but a hell of a lot of cleaning work needed and yes GW scale means over scaled definitely but you have done a cool job tying it in with the scale using the door

Not sure what you mean the problem with the gothic windows though Dave I have no problem with them ( if you mean being ready casted ) I just though you might prefer the mould itself to cast what you wanted.

I think what I said earlier may have been taking wrongly I though Storag had a cool find but I was just offering an alternative.

Ahh, np..I thought you meant you had a bad experience with the mold or something.

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Ahh, np..I thought you meant you had a bad experience with the mold or something.

No I am just waiting for the cash to buy a shed load of those moulds, I want the windows and the celtic stones for my dwarves

I need to spend several hours casting more blocks. I have two cafeteria-size trays piled high with them, but it's still not enough! Someday. It's a rainy day today. I'd like to finish the painting on this diorama thing and finish that up today.


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Ok, let's call this one finished!
I could spend another week doing rust and weathering, but this is good enough for a deadline











now, what's next?

Next?... you help me again! :-) after I tel you how wonderful and awesome that looks to puff up your modeling ego! .....


..... Dave, that looks wonderful and awesome! well done on the pale bricks mate, works really nicely all together and reminds me of the home i grew up in (the colour of the bricks, I didn't grow up in a ruined warehouse with barred windows!)

any chance you or anyone else can think of a way to make a whole bunch of little lights that resemble the search light front on a speeder? I want to add them along the bottom of each walled section on my Mortalis boards to airbrush a light glow from them for some evocative feeling and cinematics!

Thanks Damo!

You have a reference pic or two? I can work from pics pretty well.

That looks awesome Dave. Good job.
Brickwork looks very realistic and I really like the rust.

Thanks Doc! Much appreciated man!

Something akin to these dude, a rounded light I can mount along the floorline with a grill I think will look best, the imagary I want to replicate is like this (second pic down) pichttp://datasphere.codestrike.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=42

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GW-WH40K-Space-Marine-Rhino-Search-Light-Assembly-Plastic-RW018-/360656809124?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item53f8d22ca4#ht_2434wt_770

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/40K-SM-Rhino-Lights-Bits-Space-Marine-Bitz-S-/200931500601?pt=Games_US&hash=item2ec8736239#ht_652wt_724

How big around do you want them?