Forgeworld 2019 News & Rumours-BA Dawnbreakers Pg 163

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**ImAGeek**

sockwithaticket wrote:
If my memory banks aren't playing their usual tricks, didn't they say late 2019 for the next HH black book with catch up releases for models in the published ones in the meantime.The latter certainly hasn't been much in evidence yet, though you'd have thought the generic legion consuls previewed recently can;t be too far off.

JWBS wrote:
sockwithaticket wrote:
Yep, hence using the words paint job...

Your wit would be impressive had the answer before yours not been typed hours before.

Could you entertain the notion that, as the author of one of the comments seemingly in question, I was confirming IAmAGeek's assertion? I wasn't trying to be particularly witty, just a spot of light snark to start the day. Having seen your interaction with Mysterio, feel free to also ignore me henceforth.

They did say late 2018 for Malevolence, but it will almost certainly be delayed. It might come out at the February Heresy weekender.

**BrianDavion**

Tannhauser42 wrote:
Mysterio wrote:
Alan Bligh must have meant even more to FW than we knew - and we knew he meant a lot...

I feel like Alan Bligh was the raging bonfire that kept the Horus Heresy forges working, and everyone else there is just a Zippo lighter.

yeah I'm definatly given the impression that Bligh was the driving force in FW..

**AndrewGPaul**

For quite a long time, Horus Heresy was the [/I]only[/I] focus of Forge World's activity (hence the endless complaints that "they've released more doors"). Now, they've got Blood Bowl, Necromunda and Adeptus Titanicus to do too, as well as Middle Earth. That would slow down HH releases even if Alan Bligh hadn't died. Forge World have been expanding their staff levels, but unless they're now five times the size they were a couple of years ago, they're simply not going to be producing HH material at the rate they were.

**beast_gts**

Haighus wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Mysterio wrote:
I do hope that they get back to more of what they were doing, soon.
Unreleasing models?

Hasn't the reorganisation really been going on since the sad passing of Alan Bligh? I should think he means back to that point, not what we had a couple of months ago.

Apparently GW are expanding into a building over the road from their HQ and this is taking longer than planned (warehouse space in HQ is being given to manufacturing, and the new building will be warehouse).

**Redemption**

Proteus Pattern Land Speeder preview is up:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/01/1st-oct-forge-world-preview-the-proteus-pattern-land-speeder-returns-againfw-homepage-post-1/

**Valkyrie**

While the painting looks pretty decent, the model itself it a bit of a joke. That Heavy Bolter looks like it's close to shooting the pilot in the back of the head. And are those Rocket that are just lazily attached to the fins?

**Haighus**

I like it. Has a real stripped down, lowest-weight-possible look to it.

Valkyrie wrote:
While the painting looks pretty decent, the model itself it a bit of a joke. That Heavy Bolter looks like it's close to shooting the pilot in the back of the head. And are those Rocket that are just lazily attached to the fins?

Hunter-killer missiles.

**Mysterio**

Finally something other than no-content/low value posts, with Rule 1 and Rule 2 being treated as something other than vague suggestions - thank you for posting this here Redemption!

Valkyrie - you're right in that the old design did suffer from that look/problem too, but I still do like the retro feel to it.

**zedmeister**

Been looking forward to this. Managed to snag the limited edition one earlier this year but been looking forward to the MkIV and weapon options.

**Mysterio**

The limited one was MKVI, right?

Hopefully it becomes available again, even if only now and then, at shows, etc.

**zedmeister**

Mysterio wrote:
The limited one was MKVI, right?

Hopefully it becomes available again, even if only now and then, at shows, etc.

Aye, it's the one with Mk VI armour and multimelta only. Is available at Warhammer World as well as events.

**Barzam**

It's pretty damn ugly, and I can't help but like it. It looks a fair bit bigger than the plastic kit, too. I wouldn't mind getting my hands on one somewhere down the line.

**Mysterio**

Do you think it only appeals to people who have been playing for 20+ years, or does it have a more universal attraction?

**sockwithaticket**

Mysterio wrote:
Do you think it only appeals to people who have been playing for 20+ years, or does it have a more universal attraction?

By default there'll be some more recent players/collectors who are into it, the player base is big enough, but I have a hard time seeing it appeal to many who aren't affected by the nostalgia fsctor.

**JWBS**

Barzam wrote:
It's pretty damn ugly, and I can't help but like it. It looks a fair bit bigger than the plastic kit, too. I wouldn't mind getting my hands on one somewhere down the line.

Speeder has always been kind of weird. I hated that one with the armoured front, much preferred to old style (like this), but looking back, none of them seem particularly attractive.

**Crimson**

I think the second edition one was the best look, I wish they'd recreate that.

**JWBS**

Crimson wrote:
I think the second edition one was the best look, I wish they'd recreate that.

yeah, probably the best balance in this one (for clarity, this is the one I particularly disliked http://pro.bols.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Land_Speeder_Tornado.jpg , it's not offensively terrible, but like I say, none of the various iterations have been "I gotta paint this" for me personally)

**Haighus**

Mysterio wrote:
Do you think it only appeals to people who have been playing for 20+ years, or does it have a more universal attraction?

I'm a player of 11 years (this week) who likes it. The modern plastic speeder is the only one I've ever known available.

**GoatboyBeta**

Redemption wrote:
Proteus Pattern Land Speeder preview is up:

Interesting, red helmets on the crew. Confirmation that the different coloured helms for the BA are a post Heresy thing?

**BrookM**

The pilot sports a golden gauntlet though, not sure if that signifies anything?

**JWBS**

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Redemption wrote:
Proteus Pattern Land Speeder preview is up:

Interesting, red helmets on the crew. Confirmation that the different coloured helms for the BA are a post Heresy thing?

I've never seen evidence to the contrary.

**Dreadclaw69**

BrookM wrote:
The pilot sports a golden gauntlet though, not sure if that signifies anything?

Maybe which hand is his pimp hand

**warboss**

Some designs should stay in nostagalic RT memories and not be faithfully remade. That speeder and the named (Chuck, Fred, whatever) dreadnoughts would be good examples of them IMO.

**MajorWesJanson**

sockwithaticket wrote:
Mysterio wrote:
Do you think it only appeals to people who have been playing for 20+ years, or does it have a more universal attraction?

By default there'll be some more recent players/collectors who are into it, the player base is big enough, but I have a hard time seeing it appeal to many who aren't affected by the nostalgia fsctor.

It has an ugly cool look to it. Id probably grab one if I wasn't still abiding on my no purchase from fw website plan.

**Insurgency Walker**

It needs a variation crewed by imperial guard, I mean inquisitional henchmen.

**Elbows**

It's a nice model, though I agree - the 2nd edition model for the Land Speeder was by far my favourite (and you can kinda/sorta get that with a Javelin I s'pose). The current plastic one is absolute crap.

Not a huge fan of the additional hunter killer missile stuff though, that's a waste.

**Azreal13**

Crimson wrote:
I think the second edition one was the best look, I wish they'd recreate that.

With the added bonus that it could go toe to toe with a dread sock in extremis.

**Midnightdeathblade**

Oh yay... didn't we see this in like February or something? Im just over-joyed.

**Tavis75**

warboss wrote:
Some designs should stay in nostagalic RT memories and not be faithfully remade. That speeder and the named (Chuck, Fred, whatever) dreadnoughts would be good examples of them IMO.

Those dreadnoughts would be the Contemptor (Chuck) and the Deredo (Eddy), which have been remade with a certain amount of success IMO, in the fluff the odd names were simply nicknames given to those classes of dreadnoughts.

**zedmeister**

warboss wrote:
Some designs should stay in nostagalic RT memories and not be faithfully remade. That speeder and the named (Chuck, Fred, whatever) dreadnoughts would be good examples of them IMO.

Last one was called the Furibundus or Fury for short. Contemptor is the "tactical" type, Deredeo is the fire support. Perhaps the Furibundus will be some sort of fast attack mental close combat dreadnought. With Blood Angels coming up, it'd be a good time to push out a new Fast Attack assault dreadnought.