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Unlike 100 years ago, a British Passport isn't a free license to traffic in narcotics. Bravo, China!
URUMQI, China – China brushed aside international appeals Tuesday and executed by lethal injection a British drug smuggler who relatives say was mentally unstable and unwittingly lured into crime.

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown said he was "appalled" at the execution of 53-year old Akmal Shaikh — China's first of a European citizen in nearly 60 years. His government summoned the Chinese ambassador in London to express its anger.

China defended its handling of the case, saying there had not been documentary proof Shaikh was mentally ill. Beijing also criticized Brown's comments, but said it hoped the case would not harm bilateral relations. The Foreign Ministry called on London not to create any "obstacles" to better ties.

Shaikh's daughter Leilla Horsnell was quoted by the BBC and other British media outlets as saying she was "shocked and disappointed that the execution went ahead with no regards to my dad's mental health problems, and I struggle to understand how this is justice."

The execution is the latest sign of how China's communist government, with its rising global economic and political clout, is increasingly willing to defy Western complaints over its justice system and human rights record.

Last week, a court sentenced the co-author of a political reform manifesto to 11 years in prison in what rights groups called a direct rebuff to international pressure. Diplomats from more than a dozen countries were shut out of Liu Xiaobo's trial on subversion charges. The United States called for his immediate release.

Earlier in the month, China urged Cambodia to interrupt a U.N. refugee screening process and subsequently Phnom Penh repatriated 20 ethnic Uighur asylum seekers accused of involvement in ethnic unrest in western China.

Shaikh, a Briton of Pakistani descent, was arrested in 2007 for carrying a suitcase with almost 9 pounds (4 kilograms) of heroin into China on a flight from Tajikistan. He told Chinese officials he didn't know about the drugs and that the suitcase wasn't his, according to Reprieve, a London-based prisoner advocacy group that is helping with his case.

He was convicted in 2008 after a half-hour trial.

He first learned he was about to be executed Monday from his visiting cousins, who made a last-minute plea for his life. They say he is mentally unstable and was lured to China from a life on the street in Poland by men playing on his dreams to record a pop song for world peace.

The press office of the Xinjiang region where Shaikh had been held confirmed the execution in a statement handed to journalists.

In his statement issued by the Foreign Office, Brown said he condemned the execution "in the strongest terms, and am appalled and disappointed that our persistent requests for clemency have not been granted."

"I am particularly concerned that no mental health assessment was undertaken," Brown said.

The Foreign Office said Foreign Minister Ivan Lewis on Tuesday had reiterated to China's ambassador, Fu Ying, statements by Brown and Foreign Secretary David Miliband condemning Shaikh's execution.

Brown had spoken personally to China's prime minister about the case. Miliband had earlier condemned the execution and said there were unanswered questions about the trial — including over whether there was adequate interpretation during the trial.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu responded that drug smuggling was a serious crime.

"We express our strong dissatisfaction and opposition to the British accusation," Jiang told a regularly scheduled news conference in Beijing.

The official Xinhua News Agency quoted China's Supreme Court as saying Tuesday that although officials from the British Embassy and a British aid organization called for a mental health examination for Shaikh, "the documents they provided could not prove he had a mental disorder nor did members of his family have a history of mental disease."

"There is no reason to cast doubt on Akmal Shaikh's mental status," the Supreme Court was quoted as saying.

Xinhua said Shaikh was put to death by lethal injection. China, which executes more people than any other country, is increasingly doing so by lethal injection, although some death sentences are still carried out by a shot in the head.

The Beijing-based lawyer for Shaikh's death sentence review, Zhang Qingsong, said Tuesday he never got to meet with Shaikh despite asking the judge and the detention center for access. He said China's highest court never evaluated Shaikh's mental status.

According to Reprieve, the last European executed in China was Antonio Riva, an Italian pilot who was shot by a firing squad in 1951 after being convicted of involvement in what China said was a plot to assassinate Mao Zedong and other high-ranking communist officials.

"The death of Akmal Shaikh is a sad indictment of today's world, and particularly of China's legal system. ... We at Reprieve are sickened by what we have seen during our work on this case," said Sally Rowen, legal director of Reprieve's death penalty team.

Reprieve issued a statement from Shaikh's family members saying they expressed "their grief at the Chinese decision to refuse mercy."

The statement thanked supporters, including those who attended a vigil for Shaikh outside the Chinese Embassy in London on Monday night, along with members of a Facebook group that drew 5,000 members in just a few days.

The statement asked the media and public to respect the family's privacy as they "come to terms with what has happened to someone they loved."

Gareth Saunders, a British teacher who knew Shaikh in Warsaw, said his friend was cheerful but obviously very mentally ill. He said the last time they met in an underpass, Shaikh said he was traveling to Central Asia but would return in two weeks.

"I tried to contact after two weeks, no reply. that was the last time I tried to contact him," Saunders told The Associated Press.


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He was crazy, not slowed. You're so insensitive.
   
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@warpcrafter: Yup. I can't imagine anybody traveling in Asia thinks they won't get caught and executed for drug trafficking. Don't people know that Asia is completely, totally deadly ficking serious about drugs?
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@Nurglitch: IMO, China was pretty darn sensitive about the whole thing - lethal injection so the family can have an open casket funeral, and they didn't bill for the executioner's fee.

Personally, they should have gone 100% classic Chinese on this: bullet in the back of the head (blowing out the face), and a bill for the bullet.

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Nine pounds of crank... He got what he deserved but he should have been taking it out of China.

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JohnHwangDD wrote:Yup. I can't imagine anybody traveling in Asia thinks they won't get caught and executed for drug trafficking. Don't people know that Asia is completely, totally deadly ficking serious about drugs?


...And riding over students in tanks and leaving your newborn babies in fields to die because they aren't born the gender you wanted and starving entire villages to death for not 'getting with the program', hey there and lets not forget eating the nation of Tibet and murdering it's entire religious caste and tearing down it's infrastructure and subjugating it's people...

Ahhh, if only all nations were as enlightened as China!

yeah, rock on Johnny...



 
   
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Sorry, but im with MGS here.

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Me too - the title of this thread is ridiculous.

 Cheesecat wrote:
 purplefood wrote:
I find myself agreeing with Albatross far too often these days...

I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.


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Okay, so the male version of "Cougar" is now officially "Albatross".
 
   
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I hate China policy but trafficking that amount of crank is just as bad.

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Albatross wrote:Me too - the title of this thread is ridiculous.


snap.

Obviously another JohnHwangDD egotrip

   
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Whatwhat, he is a yank, need i say more?

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If the guy they executed was american, this thread wouldn't even exist. Fact. It would have been locked by now.

Or if it did exist, it would be whingeing about how he was innocent/didn't recieve a fair trial/'everyone hates America and it's not fair boo-hoo'...

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 Cheesecat wrote:
 purplefood wrote:
I find myself agreeing with Albatross far too often these days...

I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.


 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:

Okay, so the male version of "Cougar" is now officially "Albatross".
 
   
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You Brits can lay off here. Your idiot countryman would have been put down like the dog he is in Malaysia, Singapore, and pretty much anywhere else. He totally deserved it.
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@MGS: wow, ignorant racist much?

   
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MeanGreenStompa wrote:
JohnHwangDD wrote:Yup. I can't imagine anybody traveling in Asia thinks they won't get caught and executed for drug trafficking. Don't people know that Asia is completely, totally deadly ficking serious about drugs?


...And riding over students in tanks and leaving your newborn babies in fields to die because they aren't born the gender you wanted and starving entire villages to death for not 'getting with the program', hey there and lets not forget eating the nation of Tibet and murdering it's entire religious caste and tearing down it's infrastructure and subjugating it's people...

Ahhh, if only all nations were as enlightened as China!

yeah, rock on Johnny...

MGS you're not being sensitive. Get with the program or your village gets it!

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Runnin up on ya.

JohnHwangDD wrote:@warpcrafter: Yup. I can't imagine anybody traveling in Asia thinks they won't get caught and executed for drug trafficking. Don't people know that Asia is completely, totally deadly ficking serious about drugs?
____

@Nurglitch: IMO, China was pretty darn sensitive about the whole thing - lethal injection so the family can have an open casket funeral, and they didn't bill for the executioner's fee.

Personally, they should have gone 100% classic Chinese on this: bullet in the back of the head (blowing out the face), and a bill for the bullet.


Uh, did you forget that a great majority, of poppy based drugs are produced in asia? Never heard of the golden triangle, have you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Triangle_(Southeast_Asia)

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Albatross wrote:If the guy they executed was american, this thread wouldn't even exist. Fact. It would have been locked by now.

Or if it did exist, it would be whingeing about how he was innocent/didn't recieve a fair trial/'everyone hates America and it's not fair boo-hoo'...

Thats not correct...PUNK!

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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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DD: Your hardly one to spout racism.
The non-edited title shows that PC isnt your strongpoint.


Also, may i add that it was a yank that also blew his brains out showing his girl "firearms safety"

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Albatross wrote:If the guy they executed was american, this thread wouldn't even exist. Fact. It would have been locked by now.

Or if it did exist, it would be whingeing about how he was innocent/didn't recieve a fair trial/'everyone hates America and it's not fair boo-hoo'...

Instead, we have the Brits attacking the messenger to try and sweep this under the rug, blah blah blah.

So QQ
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@agnosto: whatever gave you the idea I wasn't aware where drugs were produced?

Aside from our local SoCal meth labs & medicinal pot farms, of course...
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@JD: I've never claimed to be PC, not even when it was popular.

Also, not sure why firearms safety came up here, aside from you being a Brit and wanting to take a dig at Americans to feel better about losing a loser.

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Runnin up on ya.

wow jingoism, gotta love it.


I look into my crystal ball and see this thread being locked soon.....wait that's not crystal.

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Why hello China, wassat? You still regard Mao Zedong as the father of the nation, why feth me with a little red book, lets look at some of his good works, shall we?

People's Republic of China, Mao Zedong's regime (1949-1975): 40 000 000 died by violence.
Agence France Press (25 Sept. 1999) citing at length from Courtois, Stephane, Le Livre Noir du Communism:
Rural purges, 1946-49: 2-5M deaths
Urban purges, 1950-57: 1M deaths
Great Leap Forward: 20-43M deaths
Cultural Revolution: 2-7M deaths
Labor Camps: 20M deaths
Tibet: 0.6-1.2M deaths
TOTAL: 44.5 to 72M deaths.

Oh and...
+1: drug traffiker who may well have been mentally unstable and had been living homeless on the streets of Poland previously...

Please John, do tell us more of how great China is for killing yet another person.

Also do use the opportunity to crow about him having British nationality in a rather tepid and simpering attempt to start a UK vs US flamewar on this thread...

Or, y'know, don't...

Now where the feth is that facepalming orkmoticon.



 
   
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John, the 1st problem was the title, which may or may not have been for quick attention.
You expect to post that and not get gak from people about it?

Does that now give me the right to start dragging up news on every dumb thing a yank has done?
I think i could be sat here for a few years posting examples.

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Nurglitch wrote:He was crazy, not slowed. You're so insensitive.


Do you have details about this former drug smuggler that we're not aware of? Because it seems that smuggling drugs in China requires that you be crazy and slowed.

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Cut the crap JD21920. You need to get the term right-its not Yank, its "dumbass."

EDIT someone already edited the title before I did. Coolio.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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JohnHwangDD wrote: You Brits can lay off here. Your idiot countryman would have been put down like the dog he is in Malaysia, Singapore, and pretty much anywhere else. He totally deserved it.



It not just the case of being 'not American', its also 'is British'. You seem to have a serious hate on for us JohnDD. Are you a plastic paddy by any chance? You would not be the first yank of that subset who believes that racism is all ok if the people you hate are British.

Back to the topic. Gordon Brown speaks out in defence of a drug smuggler but refuses to help current and past british captives of Somali pirates, also when a Bahrain-British yaughting team was seized by Iranians last week the only thing that happened was a pess blackout. A case of washing the hands of the yaughtsmen under the guise of not negotiation.
Later the Bahrain royal family intervened and the yaughtsmen were freed.

Good riddance to the drug smuggler, but its about time that Gordon Brown uses his newfound balls to help Britons abroad who actually need and deserve help.

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So the guy didn't even have a fair trial?

Half an hour?

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Cut the crap JD21920. You need to get the term right-its not Yank, its "dumbass."


Fair enough then mate
I shall now use the term dumbass from now on.

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Runnin up on ya.

Judge: Did he have drugs?
Prosecution: Yep, here's pics of it.
Judge: Guity! Take him out back and shoot him!

What's not fair about that?

Poor sot.

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Orlanth wrote:current ... british captives of Somali pirates.


To be fair those guys are actually dumbasses.

   
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Modquisition on.

Temporarily closing while
1) review for Rule #1.
2) I get over the loss of JD's formerly epic holiday avatar.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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