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Sneaky Kommando




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My search fu is worthless, but I just can't find this..

If a marine players buys a tac squad, with say a ML and a flamer.
He then splits the unit into two combat squads of 5 each.

Can he then buy a razorback for one of 'em as they're below 6 marines?? (or quite possibly one for each??)

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He buys the Tac squad, then the dedicated transport and after that he decides how he wants to deploy the unit(s).

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They got rid of the number requirements for the razor back. So yes a 10 man squad can buy one even if they dont combat squad. You can only buy one transport per squad too.

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Please tell me that only 6 can ride in it atleast.....

Geez... games against the SM just got harder in my book then.. ah well.

Thanks guys!

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Jag_Calle wrote:Please tell me that only 6 can ride in it atleast.....

Geez... games against the SM just got harder in my book then.. ah well.

Thanks guys!

//Calle


This would be true if they could use TTM (True Transport Madness), that is...if each combat squad could take a transport. I don't even want to think how many Drop Pods could be assembled for a filled-out FOC .

But, you are spared this travesty of Deep Striking TTM. Thanks GW!

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Well of course, you can't fit more models into a transport than what it can hold. But you don't have to be able to actually fit the squad into the transport in order to take one.

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Sidstyler wrote:Well of course, you can't fit more models into a transport than what it can hold. But you don't have to be able to actually fit the squad into the transport in order to take one.
Correct.

So, to summerise:
You can take one (1) Transport, regardless of whether or not you combat squad.

You may take a Razorback even if the squad numbers more than 6 models, but you cannot embark until the unit is small enough to fit in.

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You take a 10-man squad; split it into 2x 5-man combat squads, and one combat squad can go in the Razorback. You can't split a 10-man squad into 4 and 6, must be 5 and 5. Only way to put 6x SM into a RB is by taking a 6 man squad, or by taking a 5 man combat squad plus an attached IC.
   
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Che-Vito wrote:This would be true if they could use TTM (True Transport Madness), that is...if each combat squad could take a transport. I don't even want to think how many Drop Pods could be assembled for a filled-out FOC .


just troops, using this TTM.... 12


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Harkainos wrote:
Che-Vito wrote:This would be true if they could use TTM (True Transport Madness), that is...if each combat squad could take a transport. I don't even want to think how many Drop Pods could be assembled for a filled-out FOC .


just troops, using this TTM.... 12



Incorrect.
Fast Attack (Assault Marines), and Elites (Sternguard).

I can't vouch for HQ's or Heavy offhand (and the codex is still buried somewhere in my moving-across-the-country-in-progress pile in the basement), but that puts the count minus HQ's and Heavy at 24 TTM Drop Pods.

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Che-Vito wrote:
Harkainos wrote:
Che-Vito wrote:This would be true if they could use TTM (True Transport Madness), that is...if each combat squad could take a transport. I don't even want to think how many Drop Pods could be assembled for a filled-out FOC .


just troops, using this TTM.... 12



Incorrect.
Fast Attack (Assault Marines), and Elites (Sternguard).
Incorrect, Karkainos clearly said with just Troops.

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Gwar! wrote:
Che-Vito wrote:
Harkainos wrote:
Che-Vito wrote:This would be true if they could use TTM (True Transport Madness), that is...if each combat squad could take a transport. I don't even want to think how many Drop Pods could be assembled for a filled-out FOC .


just troops, using this TTM.... 12



Incorrect.
Fast Attack (Assault Marines), and Elites (Sternguard).
Incorrect, Karkainos clearly said with just Troops.


lol, I wish tone could be gotten over the internetz...I read what he said as saying, "just troops" could take Drop Pods.
Either way

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yup.

it's logical.

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Che-Vito wrote:

This would be true if they could use TTM (True Transport Madness), that is...if each combat squad could take a transport. I don't even want to think how many Drop Pods could be assembled for a filled-out FOC .

But, you are spared this travesty of Deep Striking TTM. Thanks GW!


It wouldn't fill the FOC in the same way, but you could do Razorback Madness by taking 5 or 6 man squads and giving each of them a Razorback.

Spamming Razorbacks is definitely a viable alternative to fielding 10 man squads in Rhinos, if you want to mech everything.

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I didnt know vanguard can take a rhino or drop pod for Free. That makes me think in a new direction now for my vangaurd.... never mind army builder is wrong yet again...

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StarGate wrote: I didnt know vanguard can take a rhino or drop pod for Free. That makes me think in a new direction now for my vangaurd.... never mind army builder is wrong yet again...


The entry in the space marine codex says "see page 135 for points costs" I take that to mean it's not free.

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agnosto wrote:
StarGate wrote: I didnt know vanguard can take a rhino or drop pod for Free. That makes me think in a new direction now for my vangaurd.... never mind army builder is wrong yet again...


The entry in the space marine codex says "see page 135 for points costs" I take that to mean it's not free.
Correct. Only Assault Squads get them for free.

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