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Class:

Mp5/red dot
.44 mag/tac knife
Symtex
Stun nades

Perk1: marathon pro
Perk2: Light weight pro
Perk3: commando pro

Death Streak: Martyr

Kill streaks: UAV/Care Package/Pred missile


....just run around doin your tac knife thing till you get 4 kills...then run around carepackage knifing people >.< only using the CPackage when youve gotten a big enough streak that you have 2! *sigh*.... my thumb is bruised from so much sprinting >.<


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..what about everyone else? what do you love most?

I love the fact that Ramirez does everything.

For multi-player?
Primary Weapon: ACR Bling with ACOG and Silencer
Secondary: USP .45 Bling with Silencer and FMJ
Equipment: Throwing Knife
Special Grenade: Flashbang
Perk 1: Bling Pro
Perk 2: Stopping Power Pro
Perk 3: Steady Aim Pro

Online multiplayer

Primary: m21 thermal
Secondary: model akimbo
Equipment: frag grenade
Special: smoke grenade
Sleight of hand pro
Stopping power pro
Steady aim pro

Knifing people just short of their kill streak.

That's what I love most.

EDIT: Or rather, I love the nerdrage that you get after doing so

Knife-victim: "F**KING KNIFE-KILLING F***OT! YOU F***ED UP MY KILLSTREAK YOU F****ING PIECE OF NOOB S**T!"

Me: "Hehehehe hehehehe. I love you too mate"

Knife-victim: "YOU'RE SO GAY!" *Ragequit*


Priceless

Right now I've got the ACR on iron sights, with FMJ for most games, but I switch to noobtoob for HQ games and some domination maps. Sometimes I switch to the FAL, though it's a bugger to aim down the iron sights on that thing.

Secondary weapon is dual G-18s with FMJ, I switch to them whenever I'm moving into close quarters and they do all right - though I'm thinking about grinding a pistol to do the same - prob the M9 because it looks cool.

I take a claymore and some flashbangs. Claymores for planting in doorways and other chokepoints, if it doesn't kill the bad guy it tells me where he is, while flashbangs are useful for any entry situations. Also, if I've taken up a defensive position over a couple of objectives and a teammate comes up and stands right next to me, it's fun to flashbang him before relocating.

I use marathon for my first perk - in CtF and HQ you need to move a whole lot, especially if you're trying to flank the enemy's line of approach. Though I do like scavenger when used with claymores.
Second perk is currently lightweight, but only because I'm grinding it to completion. I prefer cold-blooded and I have an otherwise identical kit built with cold blooded built in, if my team is getting hammered and the enemy starts deploying harriers, pave lows and all that I switch across.
Last perk is ninja.


That said, I have to admit I'm not playing that much any more, basically only when mates are keen to play. It's a small problem that some builds are simply better than others, but I accept that's always going to be the case, the problem is that the optimum builds are so stupid. A superhumanly fast guy who never tires running around with a knife? A guy dual wielding shotguns made more than a hundred years ago? I really enjoy the game when it feels a built like an action scene in a covert ops movie, but most of the time it just looks and feels silly. Oh, and also the lack of dedicated servers and proliferation of cheating.

I like the FAL.

Hardline.

Kill 2 players staking out a room with a grenade launcher. Call in a UAV then take out two fools who think your team has no idea they're on their way around your flank. Find cover, predator missile 2 campers who know they aren't going to get up from prone fast enough to get out of the way of that missile they see coming towards them on the radar. Call in harrier strike on the enemies busiest area. Then watch +100 come up on your screen as your harrier takes out the other team, while making your own way through the enemy with your primary and secondary weapons until death.

And repeat.

Oh Hardline, how we love your beardy...

AC130s.

SHIIIIAAAOOOOOOOOOOOO-KAAAPOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWW.

Or just the frightening and confusing B2 (on Hardcore), blotting out all natural light.

sA

I love how selective the game is...

Game: Oh, the predator missile hit a small fence so the guy laying prone next to it is below the blast.

Me: Really?

Game: Yeah, he's totally fine.

Me: Fffft...

Knifers are without a doubt the biggest bunch of annoying motherfethers in the entire game. That being said...


Primary: SCAR-H with RDS/AUG H-BAR with Grip
Secondary: Raffika
Equipment: Semtex (for riot shield losers )
Special: Flashbang
Perk 1:Scavenger Pro
Perk 2:Stopping Power Pro
Perk 3:Last Stand Pro

Death Streak: Martyr

Killstreaks: Predator, Harrier Strike, Chopper Gunner

Depending one my mood, I'll use one of the 2 primary guns above. Both are total beasts.

Vladsimpaler wrote:Knifers are without a doubt the biggest bunch of annoying motherfethers in the entire game. That being said...

That falls short of insulting me - I'm not a chronic knifer like those guys. Although knife-killing a knifer is so totally worth the frustration

metallifan wrote:

Vladsimpaler wrote:Knifers are without a doubt the biggest bunch of annoying motherfethers in the entire game. That being said...

That falls short of insulting me - I'm not a chronic knifer like those guys. Although knife-killing a knifer is so totally worth the frustration

I just find them annoying because chronic knifers have absolutely no skill. All you have do is run and occasionally press the melee button.

Even shooting people isn't that easy.

(I typically make it my mission to kill knifers and riot shields )

There's a difference between the occasional close combat (which does happen and I do knife in that situation) but when your killcam is just someone running around and luckily finding me is bs.

I hate those marathon/lightweight/commando knifers, so annoying and glitchy.

I love it when a riot shield hunkers down against a wall, so you chuck a grenade and it rolls behind them. Watching them take a second to realize they won't survive this one is just great.

metallifan wrote:I love it when a riot shield hunkers down against a wall, so you chuck a grenade and it rolls behind them. Watching them take a second to realize they won't survive this one is just great.

I play on the PC version so it's much harder to maneuver when Riot Shields come at you so I developed a total fear of them, haha.

When I see one, I retreat back, wait for them to pass me, then I knife them or I semtex them. Either way, it's good.

Vladsimpaler wrote:

metallifan wrote:I love it when a riot shield hunkers down against a wall, so you chuck a grenade and it rolls behind them. Watching them take a second to realize they won't survive this one is just great.

I play on the PC version so it's much harder to maneuver when Riot Shields come at you so I developed a total fear of them, haha.

When I see one, I retreat back, wait for them to pass me, then I knife them or I semtex them. Either way, it's good.

One of my absolute favourite things is turn around and run away from the riot shield dude, ducking around a corner and placing a claymore on the ground. Note that as you were running away from the guy your claymore will be set facing away from the riot shield dude. When the riot shield dude pursues you he will run over the claymore, only triggering it as he passes over it - it will detonate into his back for a funny kill. It doesn't always work (sometimes you get knifed, or the guy trailing the riot shield dude caps you, claymores are a mystery weapon that don't kill reliably) and isn't as effective as semtex but it's a really funny way to kill someone.


And yeah, knifing is fun and a good part of the game, but the guys who takes a pure running build and commando, and then does nothing but knife is lame in the same way that someone who sits in some random corner waiting for bad guys to run past is lame - it's one dimensional play. See a guy, run at him, knife him, see a dot on the radar, run to location, see a guy, run at him, knife him. Compare that to a guy who's taken an assault rifle and shotgun, he's always deciding whether to engage at range or move in close with the shottie, and it's those choices that make for a fun game.

RustyKnight wrote:I love the fact that Ramirez does everything.

"Ramirez! Destroy that Russian army!"
"Ramirez! Make me a sandwich!"
"Ramirez! Give me a blowjob!"

Well i'm one of those guys that either...
1. Completely camps out w/ scav, claymore, snipe or.
2. I run nothing but knife (its been this lately...my friends and i team up for alot of Cap the Flag and i flag run/knife people)


Seriously i laugh at all the people who cry about getting knifed, you realize how much harder it is to knife someone than it is to shoot them? Any idiot can corner camp w/ a shot gun the entire game and run a 5+ KDR, Its not hard to sit around and camp a firing lane w/ a sniper rifle quick scoping nubs that run around corners.


as a knife class, its like this..hmm people..they are facing me..im out of grenades.. i better run the other way and try to flank.
because heaven forbid a knife class get past a snipers first 2 shots, and the sniper then pull out his akimbo 1887's and blast you.. that would just be toooo simple.

Really, next time you people out there go dissing a knife class, especially the ones using a Legit game mechanic (care package) to run faster.

They are essentially giving up the use of any weapon other than a knife, they are using weaker weapons because of weight, they are giving up the use of a killstreak to run faster.

you getting pwned and crying = funny

Vladsimpaler wrote:

metallifan wrote:I love it when a riot shield hunkers down against a wall, so you chuck a grenade and it rolls behind them. Watching them take a second to realize they won't survive this one is just great.

I play on the PC version so it's much harder to maneuver when Riot Shields come at you so I developed a total fear of them, haha.

When I see one, I retreat back, wait for them to pass me, then I knife them or I semtex them. Either way, it's good.

Really? I'm on PC too. What's your Steam? I'm on Bungd-up (Nickname) or St_anger_253@hotmail.com (Email). Should spank out a few games. Anyway, when I see one I take him head on with my knife, often accompanied by a call of "Come get some motherfer!". Oddly, I usually win too... Could be because riot shields swing slow and take a few shots to take someone down. So I can usually get behind the guy and finish him off with a good shank or a shotgun shell

TopC wrote:Well i'm one of those guys that either...
1. Completely camps out w/ scav, claymore, snipe or.
2. I run nothing but knife (its been this lately...my friends and i team up for alot of Cap the Flag and i flag run/knife people)


Seriously i laugh at all the people who cry about getting knifed, you realize how much harder it is to knife someone than it is to shoot them?

Your argument fails on two levels. First up, there's big difference between noting something is unbalanced and looks stupid, and having a cry. A guy running around a modern battlefield with a knife is goofy, and there need to be no tears shed by anyone for us all to realise how goofy it is.

Second up, it's a lot easier to put a single round into a target than it is to knife them, but that's not the issue. The problem comes because in standard modes of play you need to put a lot more than a single round into a target, while the knifer only has to get with in a few metres and attack once. In any fighting that isn't in wide open spaces it is a lot easier to score a single melee hit that to put multiple rounds into a target - which is why the knife build exists. If you move to hardcore matches where people die a lot easier then you'll notice there are exactly no running knifers.

So, like, play the game how you want to play the game. The running knife dude is a legal build and very effective one, and there's nothing stopping you taking it. But pretending it isn't a dominant build that allows a player to score a lot of kills is just plain wrong.

sebster wrote:

TopC wrote:Well i'm one of those guys that either...
1. Completely camps out w/ scav, claymore, snipe or.
2. I run nothing but knife (its been this lately...my friends and i team up for alot of Cap the Flag and i flag run/knife people)


Seriously i laugh at all the people who cry about getting knifed, you realize how much harder it is to knife someone than it is to shoot them?

Your argument fails on two levels. First up, there's big difference between noting something is unbalanced and looks stupid, and having a cry. A guy running around a modern battlefield with a knife is goofy, and there need to be no tears shed by anyone for us all to realise how goofy it is.

Second up, it's a lot easier to put a single round into a target than it is to knife them, but that's not the issue. The problem comes because in standard modes of play you need to put a lot more than a single round into a target, while the knifer only has to get with in a few metres and attack once. In any fighting that isn't in wide open spaces it is a lot easier to score a single melee hit that to put multiple rounds into a target - which is why the knife build exists. If you move to hardcore matches where people die a lot easier then you'll notice there are exactly no running knifers.

So, like, play the game how you want to play the game. The running knife dude is a legal build and very effective one, and there's nothing stopping you taking it. But pretending it isn't a dominant build that allows a player to score a lot of kills is just plain wrong.

1 raffica burst, 1 shot gun blast.. pretty much does the trick, i know, i eat plenty of these when i'm in close quarters trying to sneak to a flag

TopC wrote:

sebster wrote:

TopC wrote:Well i'm one of those guys that either...
1. Completely camps out w/ scav, claymore, snipe or.
2. I run nothing but knife (its been this lately...my friends and i team up for alot of Cap the Flag and i flag run/knife people)


Seriously i laugh at all the people who cry about getting knifed, you realize how much harder it is to knife someone than it is to shoot them?

Your argument fails on two levels. First up, there's big difference between noting something is unbalanced and looks stupid, and having a cry. A guy running around a modern battlefield with a knife is goofy, and there need to be no tears shed by anyone for us all to realise how goofy it is.

Second up, it's a lot easier to put a single round into a target than it is to knife them, but that's not the issue. The problem comes because in standard modes of play you need to put a lot more than a single round into a target, while the knifer only has to get with in a few metres and attack once. In any fighting that isn't in wide open spaces it is a lot easier to score a single melee hit that to put multiple rounds into a target - which is why the knife build exists. If you move to hardcore matches where people die a lot easier then you'll notice there are exactly no running knifers.

So, like, play the game how you want to play the game. The running knife dude is a legal build and very effective one, and there's nothing stopping you taking it. But pretending it isn't a dominant build that allows a player to score a lot of kills is just plain wrong.

1 raffica burst, 1 shot gun blast.. pretty much does the trick, i know, i eat plenty of these when i'm in close quarters trying to sneak to a flag

QFT. And it's always great when the knifer gets pissy because you just owned his face with an AA-12

I try to be a mobile sniper, for example quarry is my favorite place to go. I stick commando on with a barret 50cal and stopping power and sleight of hand.

I go to several spots, but the two story building in the left of the map is my fave. I'll sit near the window overlooking the back alley and when someone comes near, I jump out of the window and knife the guy. I think that defines me well enough as a mobile sniper.

metallifan wrote:

Vladsimpaler wrote:

metallifan wrote:I love it when a riot shield hunkers down against a wall, so you chuck a grenade and it rolls behind them. Watching them take a second to realize they won't survive this one is just great.

I play on the PC version so it's much harder to maneuver when Riot Shields come at you so I developed a total fear of them, haha.

When I see one, I retreat back, wait for them to pass me, then I knife them or I semtex them. Either way, it's good.

Really? I'm on PC too. What's your Steam? I'm on Bungd-up (Nickname) or St_anger_253@hotmail.com (Email). Should spank out a few games. Anyway, when I see one I take him head on with my knife, often accompanied by a call of "Come get some motherfer!". Oddly, I usually win too... Could be because riot shields swing slow and take a few shots to take someone down. So I can usually get behind the guy and finish him off with a good shank or a shotgun shell

Very cool! I have added you to my steam friends list (my name is PopstheImpaler but if it randomly changes to MC Homicidal Rapist don't get all freaked out ... occasionally my brother will be playing so if you add Pops to a game and he acts all confused, it's most likely my brother!)

I pretty bored of the game now. Thank god Mass effect 2 is coming. Never the less till then.

This is currently my fav class.

Tar with noob Tube
Aths (the first rocket launcher)
flash
Scavenger Pro
Danger Close
Ninja Pro
Painkiller

I love this cause its not just shooting bullets ( Ive prestiged once and am over that) Also the Noob Tube is awesome against campers in windows. ITs also awesome cause its a noob weapon which creates nerd rage. The Rocket is great fun and scavenger keeps the explodey goodness coming.

Also any Aussies noticed that Mosh pit (where all the aussies go) with its green lag is still harder then Team death match with Yellow/red lag. I can often do well in deathmatch but when I go to mosh pit Im lucky to get a UAV and get owned like a muppet. Bloody Australians with their leet skillz.

metallifan wrote:

TopC wrote:

sebster wrote:

TopC wrote:Well i'm one of those guys that either...
1. Completely camps out w/ scav, claymore, snipe or.
2. I run nothing but knife (its been this lately...my friends and i team up for alot of Cap the Flag and i flag run/knife people)


Seriously i laugh at all the people who cry about getting knifed, you realize how much harder it is to knife someone than it is to shoot them?

Your argument fails on two levels. First up, there's big difference between noting something is unbalanced and looks stupid, and having a cry. A guy running around a modern battlefield with a knife is goofy, and there need to be no tears shed by anyone for us all to realise how goofy it is.

Second up, it's a lot easier to put a single round into a target than it is to knife them, but that's not the issue. The problem comes because in standard modes of play you need to put a lot more than a single round into a target, while the knifer only has to get with in a few metres and attack once. In any fighting that isn't in wide open spaces it is a lot easier to score a single melee hit that to put multiple rounds into a target - which is why the knife build exists. If you move to hardcore matches where people die a lot easier then you'll notice there are exactly no running knifers.

So, like, play the game how you want to play the game. The running knife dude is a legal build and very effective one, and there's nothing stopping you taking it. But pretending it isn't a dominant build that allows a player to score a lot of kills is just plain wrong.

1 raffica burst, 1 shot gun blast.. pretty much does the trick, i know, i eat plenty of these when i'm in close quarters trying to sneak to a flag

QFT. And it's always great when the knifer gets pissy because you just owned his face with an AA-12

I just find that most people online are giant cry babies, can run a knife and pull a 5dkr, turn around and run a sniper/defense class because they cried and ill run a 10+ KDR its like...sooo...you said i was running a knife to farm kills..looks like i do better w/ a intervention..

and yes you are right its funny to just shotty a knifer down

TopC wrote:I just find that most people online are giant cry babies, can run a knife and pull a 5dkr, turn around and run a sniper/defense class because they cried and ill run a 10+ KDR its like...sooo...you said i was running a knife to farm kills..looks like i do better w/ a intervention..

and yes you are right its funny to just shotty a knifer down

Well you've got to remember, most of the people playing MW2 are young teens - usually between 13 and 15. This tends to be the more temperamental age period, so most of those people you're going to play with are going to throw a fit if things don't go their way, which will be reinforced by ITG (Internet Tough Guy) Syndrome that also seems to rampantly permeate that age range.


Knife-farming only works on maps with plenty of cover and alternate routes. Skidrow, Sub Base, and Karachi come to mind as the perfect maps for this. Meanwhile, maps like Wasteland, Terminal, and Estate will probably see a knifer owned repeatedly and in brutal fashion. If a person wants to avoid knifers, take one of those maps. You might se one or two, but they'd be lucky to get even a 3 kill strike there. Me? I love making knifers do backflips with my shotgun, or sticking them with Semtex as they rush me. I'll gladly play against one.

TopC wrote:1 raffica burst, 1 shot gun blast.. pretty much does the trick, i know, i eat plenty of these when i'm in close quarters trying to sneak to a flag

No, read my post. If I had said there are counters to running knife builds then your reply would make sense. But given that the existance of various counter builds of differing effectiveness doesn't mean knifers aren't still a strong build, then your post ends up rebutting nothing.

By all means, take the running knife build, but be honest in admitting that it is a strong build, and also a goofy one.

I just find that most people online are giant cry babies, can run a knife and pull a 5dkr, turn around and run a sniper/defense class because they cried and ill run a 10+ KDR its like...sooo...you said i was running a knife to farm kills..looks like i do better w/ a intervention..

and yes you are right its funny to just shotty a knifer down