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Dakka , i need all your wisdom to help my friend that had her house broken into.
As far as i know , there are also 3 neighbor that were victims either by theft or was been vandalized.

Can anyone suggest any products that can help against intrusion ?

I was thinking if there should be those automatic lights that light up when something moves by.

Burglar alarms.

That should be a no-brainer.

Motion sensor lights, burglar alarm, dead bolt locks and chains, electric fence, dog named satan (preferably a rottweiler), and shotgun.

Look around the outside of the house, if there are areas where you can't see or be seen by anyone, then neither can a burglar. Those are areas where you want motion lights. You can also bar up any windows on the ground floor and get sturdy doors that would take a battering ram to break down.

Broadview!

First check her friends and people who visit. Most break ins are from people you know who have been in your house. Avoid friends who do Coke and X. Don't move Big boxes of stuff or boxes that look like they could be TV or electronics. Oh and beware of friends who do meth as well. Don't broadcast living alone, and don't let your house be the gathering spot. IF a burgler can be come friendly with you and your dog, he/she knows your time table and your dog won't bark at them. Don't keep anything to vauble that can be seen if you open the door or look in the window. Don't flaunt brag about anything of value. Don't keep Ipods or the like in your car. Always look ready to kick somebodies ass and not like a scared victim. Don't live alone.

Are friends who do PCP still cool?

Also, laminated polycarbonate windows. They don't shatter, you have to beat the hell out of them for a long time, unless you are hulked out on steroids and PCP, and then they'll most likely injure themselves badly by way of pulled muscles or broken bones. That commotion will give the police time to arrive and sick the dogs on the interloper. And most definitely a shotgun.

LunaHound wrote:Dakka , i need all your wisdom to help my friend that had her house broken into.
As far as i know , there are also 3 neighbor that were victims either by theft or was been vandalized.

Can anyone suggest any products that can help against intrusion ?

I was thinking if there should be those automatic lights that light up when something moves by.

Radio shack, or Canadian tire should have house hold alarms that are cheep.
baring that tell him to buy a pit bull and teach it to eat people.


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truth is your never going to be able to stop a determined theif, best to scare em off if they can be scared off, or have fluffy eat em.

Orkeosaurus wrote:Broadview!

Exactly!!,didn't you see the thread about this Luna?

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/275573.page

I however recomend the Mosberg 500 12 Guage,sure to rid your home of any pesky intruder.

I have the sticker that says I have an alarm but actually dont have one. On my front window.

The lights may help. Good locks would definitely help. I wouldnt wanna make my place a fortress in case of fire how am I to get out?

If she lives in a robin hood I need drugs area.. I dunno, lights arent gonna stop the desperate.

Also Cheese you finally got rid of Yuri.. I hated that avatar!

I'd install an alarm just to get the discounted insurance. Where I live it's 20% cheaper if I have a security system installed. 20% off insurance would most likely pay for the $99 installation fee after the first year.

Though nothing is better than a shotgun or a S&W .45.

Yeah, good ideas about finding dark spots and making them well lit. Motion sensor lights aren't that expensive and can be handy.

K question on motion sensor lights. How are they installed and how are they powered? Are they placed on the outside walls?
Alarms, they have alarms but they forgot the password , how do they set it?

Motion alarm good for garage? http://www.rona.ca/shop/~alarm-motion-alarm-with-telephone-response-ideal-security-389481_!alarm_shop

and motion lights? dont see out door ones though http://www.rona.ca/shop/~indoor-photoelectric-control-amertac-398452_!motion-light_shop

Found this one , but how to power it? http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/3/HouseHome/Lighting/OutdoorSecurityLighting/PRD~0524473P/4-Sided%252BMotion%252BSensor%252BLight%252BFixture.jsp

actually if anyone can find one from here ><
http://www.canadiantire.ca/search/search_results.jsp?bmForm=form_endeca_search&bmFormID=1264404180570&bmUID=1264404180570&bmIsForm=true&bmPrevTemplate=%2Fhome.jsp&bmHidden=OMNITURE_FROM&OMNITURE_FROM=Search&bmText=quick_search_term&quick_search_term=motion&bmSubmit=quick_search&quick_search=Search&bmHidden=FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396672077

LunaHound wrote:
Alarms, they have alarms but they forgot the password , how do they set it?


I say contact the maker to see of they can get the password from them, if not then maybe they kept the paperwork for it some where.


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Oh sorry for the mistake I made with my earlier post Luna.

Fateweaver wrote:I'd install an alarm just to get the discounted insurance. Where I live it's 20% cheaper if I have a security system installed. 20% off insurance would most likely pay for the $99 installation fee after the first year.

Though nothing is better than a shotgun or a Kimber .45.

Yeah, good ideas about finding dark spots and making them well lit. Motion sensor lights aren't that expensive and can be handy.

Corrected your typo.
Also doggies are excellent in this area. bruglars typically avoid houses with canines-even small ones. Small ones act as alarms, and killer attack rottweilers or even worse wiener dogs will eat the burglar.

We had a pair of dobermans that trapped a meter reader up a pole once. They let him in but when he tried to leave they decided they liked his company.


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LunaHound wrote:K question on motion sensor lights. How are they installed and how are they powered? Are they placed on the outside walls?
Alarms, they have alarms but they forgot the password , how do they set it?

Motion alarm good for garage? http://www.rona.ca/shop/~alarm-motion-alarm-with-telephone-response-ideal-security-389481_!alarm_shop

and motion lights? dont see out door ones though http://www.rona.ca/shop/~indoor-photoelectric-control-amertac-398452_!motion-light_shop

Found this one , but how to power it? http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/3/HouseHome/Lighting/OutdoorSecurityLighting/PRD~0524473P/4-Sided%252BMotion%252BSensor%252BLight%252BFixture.jsp

actually if anyone can find one from here ><
http://www.canadiantire.ca/search/search_results.jsp?bmForm=form_endeca_search&bmFormID=1264404180570&bmUID=1264404180570&bmIsForm=true&bmPrevTemplate=%2Fhome.jsp&bmHidden=OMNITURE_FROM&OMNITURE_FROM=Search&bmText=quick_search_term&quick_search_term=motion&bmSubmit=quick_search&quick_search=Search&bmHidden=FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396672077

Motion lights are quite good in that they can be set for duration, are very inexpensive, and are better than just leaving lights on. Make sure trees are not right near them as branch movement can set them off. Set them up higher so body size movement attracts.

Timer switches for some internal lights and radio/TV.

Put electric wire all around the floors... oh and lazor alarms!

Shotguns are bad ideas. While you should hit the "suspect", there will be collateral damage to your home. not to mention that blood is a pain in the butt to remove from carpet. Hardwoods not that much of a problem.

Now a .40 or .45 is a great option. Good stopping power and should not go through the "suspect". 9mm have too much of a chance to go through them and several walls. Plus in close quaters, shotguns can be unwieldy.

jbunny wrote:Shotguns are bad ideas. While you should hit the "suspect", there will be collateral damage to your home. not to mention that blood is a pain in the butt to remove from carpet. Hardwoods not that much of a problem.

Now a .40 or .45 is a great option. Good stopping power and should not go through the "suspect". 9mm have too much of a chance to go through them and several walls. Plus in close quaters, shotguns can be unwieldy.

12 gauge in short range has a very limited spread, but definitely will 1. put your opponent down; 2. even better in not penetrating a wall. A 45 is going to penetrate a wall unless it hits a a main support in your average amurican household.

Not sure how they would work it in Canada but a security alarm would be good, ours came with 8 wireless motion sensors that light up when they sense movement (easy to test) and if the system is armed it will alert the police automatically, you can also get gravel for your front and back door, that way if your up you can hear people coming to the doors, when your quiet, it also acts as a good deterent


FM

Tactical Nuclear Burglar Alarm

Burglar alarms.

That should be a no-brainer.

What a terrible waste of money. Police respond to burglar alarms as a last priority. This means it will take at least 30minutes for someone to dispatch an officer to come take a look. From there the officer has to travel to your house and then cautiously look around before entering the premise and really doing any good.

Over all the effectiveness of B. Alarms is in the single digits, and on top of that it cost your city/town a ton of money in dispatches for false alarms.



The best solution is a dog. The statistics for homes with dogs vs homes with out are incredible. If you get a large dog thats a bonus.

Frazzled wrote:

Fateweaver wrote:I'd install an alarm just to get the discounted insurance. Where I live it's 20% cheaper if I have a security system installed. 20% off insurance would most likely pay for the $99 installation fee after the first year.

Though everything is better than an overpriced Kimber .45.

Yeah, good ideas about finding dark spots and making them well lit. Motion sensor lights aren't that expensive and can be handy.

Corrected your typo.
Also doggies are excellent in this area. bruglars typically avoid houses with canines-even small ones. Small ones act as alarms, and killer attack rottweilers or even worse wiener dogs will eat the burglar.

We had a pair of dobermans that trapped a meter reader up a pole once. They let him in but when he tried to leave they decided they liked his company.


Fixed YOUR typo.

Fateweaver wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

Fateweaver wrote:I'd install an alarm just to get the discounted insurance. Where I live it's 20% cheaper if I have a security system installed. 20% off insurance would most likely pay for the $99 installation fee after the first year.

Though everything is better than an overpriced Kimber .45.

Yeah, good ideas about finding dark spots and making them well lit. Motion sensor lights aren't that expensive and can be handy.

Corrected your typo.
Also doggies are excellent in this area. bruglars typically avoid houses with canines-even small ones. Small ones act as alarms, and killer attack rottweilers or even worse wiener dogs will eat the burglar.

We had a pair of dobermans that trapped a meter reader up a pole once. They let him in but when he tried to leave they decided they liked his company.


Fixed YOUR typo.

Well played sir. Well played.

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Totally submit to that Frazzled...maybe even a CornerShot? that sure comes in handy

Thanks for the replies , as for the people thinking its fun to post joke about it ,it really isnt funny. Or im not in a mood to appreciate it , because its rather traumatizing to be intruded.

LunaHound wrote:Thanks for the replies , as for the people thinking its fun to post joke about it ,it really isnt funny. Or im not in a mood to appreciate it , because its rather traumatizing to be intruded.

Sorry but humorous piosts are important and none have actually slanted against your point.

translation: We are all going to die. Most of us are going to die in really horrible sad pathetic ways achieving nothing remembered by anyone at all. Everyone you know, everyone you knew is also going to die in a similar horrific manner. Humor helps alleviate the profound sadness of that.

Damn it i dont want to die YET.

And its not ONCE , they came back AGAIN.
I havnt slept on friday and saturday and had to slept by the open window to keep ear out for them at night.

Not to mention now my back hurts from sleeping against the wall and have a cold from open window.

Frazzled wrote:

translation: We are all going to die. Most of us are going to die in really horrible sad pathetic ways achieving nothing remembered by anyone at all. Everyone you know, everyone you knew is also going to die in a similar horrific manner.

Optimistic as always I see.

LunaHound wrote:Damn it i dont want to die YET.

And its not ONCE , they came back AGAIN.
I havnt slept on friday and saturday and had to slept by the open window to keep ear out for them at night.

Not to mention now my back hurts from sleeping against the wall and have a cold from open window.

Get a dog and proper lights. Get a shotgun. rest easy-don't forget to feed and walk the dog daily.

Get a gillie suit. Get a rifle. Wait.

Get a stick. Get a nail. Find them.

Move. restart in a new location, might do wonders.


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Lord-Loss wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

translation: We are all going to die. Most of us are going to die in really horrible sad pathetic ways achieving nothing remembered by anyone at all. Everyone you know, everyone you knew is also going to die in a similar horrific manner.

Optimistic as always I see.

Thats Mr. Glass Half Full.

If you can afford it, a monitored security system would work well; that way when the alarm goes off, you don't have to wait for slow police, the security company will send someone out. In the US one of these will give you a break on your homeowner's insurance as well.

You're too young to be playing with guns so don't go there.

A dog's not a bad idea, depending on space and your liking of the idea.

Get window locks from the local home supply store and install a deadbolt in your front and back doors. Make sure your door frames are of solid construction so they can't just kick the doors down.

If it appears that crime has come to stay, get bars for the windows and security gates for the front and rear doors.