Gwar!'s Unofficial Blood Angels FAQ v1.9: Feedback, Submission and Download Thread

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**Gwar!**

OK, here we go again.
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**phantommaster**

Very quick question that isn't a FAQ, but what the hey.

Does the new assualt squads have melta guns, flamers etc?

Thank you

**Joetaco**

Make sure to make to print out a couple copies of your FAQ and have them sealed and postmarked (poor/ lazymans copywrite)
That way Dakka won't have another repeat of the "stolen tyranid faq" fiasco.
Good luck with it, can't wait to see it when its done...

**KingCracker**

Yea I was and am still surprised that GW basically stole your FAQ. I laugh but only in a are you kidding me kind of way. Anywho, good luck man, I want to read it because Im curious about all the crazyness they are going to have

**Caboose**

Legit Questions:

Does Lemartes replace a member of the Death company or is he added to the unit? So, will I end up with 30 death company and lemartes or 29 death company and Lemartes?

Lemartes has the Decent of Angels rule, but Death company doesnt. Does he grant the rule to the squad?

Is it a typo that Mephiston, Death Company Tycho, and the Sanguinor are NOT Independant Characters?

**Hulksmash**

1.) I doesn't say upgrade a member of the squad so I would say he is added to it. so you could have Lemartes plust 30 DC's.

2.) Any model equipped with a Jump Pack in a blood angels army has the Descent of Angels special rule.

3.) Definitely not in the case of Mephiston and Sanguinor. Didn't realize that Tycho got the same treatment which stands out a little but I'd say that it was intentional. Especially for Mephiston and Sanguinor as having ablative wounds would make them insane.

**Gwar!**

Caboose wrote:Legit Questions:

Does Lemartes replace a member of the Death company or is he added to the unit? So, will I end up with 30 death company and lemartes or 29 death company and Lemartes?

Lemartes has the Decent of Angels rule, but Death company doesnt. Does he grant the rule to the squad?

Is it a typo that Mephiston, Death Company Tycho, and the Sanguinor are NOT Independant Characters?

Thank you for the questions

I can answer #3 off the top of my head, and that is "No, it is not, unless GW issues Errata to the contrary. [R.a.W]"

**Hulksmash**

You can answer #2 as well. It's in the jump pack entry in the wargear section.

Number one would depend on wording but I'm pretty sure it didn't say upgrade a member since he already costs to much anyway....

**Caboose**

Hulksmash wrote:You can answer #2 as well. It's in the jump pack entry in the wargear section.

I must have missed that. Does that mean that Vanguard Veterans equipped with jump packs can reroll a fail reserves roll, roll 1d6 for scatter AND assault on that turn????

**Anpu42**

He is one about the DC
Are they 3-30 man squad only or can theybe broken up like the old 3e Space Wolf Wolf Guard>

**Arschbombe**

DC are one big squad unless you take astorath as he allows you to take more than one squad of DC.

**Hulksmash**

And yes Caboose. That means that vanguard with them get the special rule and can assault afterwards. actually makes them worth it

**Caboose**

That's disgusting.

**Arschbombe**

Here's a couple about the new sanguinary priest rules.

With the Sanguinary priest ability to give units within 6" furious charge and FNP, when do you measure? In the pdf codex Corbulo was the one entry that could provide furious charge and it specified that you measured at the start of the assault phase. The new rule doesn't include that kind of wording IIRC. Do you measure before or after the assault move? i.e can a unit make an assault move and lose the FC bonus by if the assault move takes them outside of the 6" bubble? Conversely, can they make an assault move into the bubble and get FC? Can both work?

What about Feel No Pain? It's different from FC since it's basically "always on" instead of just activating for an assault move. It makes for some interesting permutations. Can I make an assault move away from a priest, keeping FC, but losing FNP? Can I make an assault move towards a priest gaining FNP, but not FC?

**Gwar!**

Here is one:
How does Wings of Sanguninius Work with Librarian Dreadnoughts

**kitsunez**

Joetaco wrote:Make sure to make to print out a couple copies of your FAQ and have them sealed and postmarked (poor/ lazymans copywrite)
That way Dakka won't have another repeat of the "stolen tyranid faq" fiasco.
Good luck with it, can't wait to see it when its done...

whats the story on this>?

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Gwar! wrote:Here is one:
How does Wings of Sanguninius Work with Librarian Dreadnoughts

I think it works this way:

1. flying dread

2. FFFFFFFF

3. profit

**Gwar!**

So, question for you guys:
Furioso Librarians (And I quote) "count as Leadership 10 for all psychic purposes."

Now, not regarding the complete and utter horrible vagueness of that rule, how do you guys want to see me rule in regards to things like Psychic Hoods, the Crucible of Malediction and the "Souless" rules for the Culexus and Pariahs?

As I see it, there is either the RaW, which is that Psychic Hoods, the CoM and Souless have no effect whatsoever against them (meaning the Power always punches through the Hood D: ) or I can go for a Rules change, saying that you count the Furioso Librarian as Ld 10 whenever an effect would specifically call for the psykers leadership which would allow Hoods and the CoM to affect it (but would still leave souless doing nothing, but meh, I cant think of a way to do it without completely breaking stuff).

**ChrisCP**

Anything that makes one look at Ld values and is a psychic related ability (*Clarification from a model considered a psycher) Considers Furiosos ld value to be ten... now the lady giving the first aid coursae is glowering at me so I'll have to go lol.

**MasterSlowPoke**

Can a unit of Death Company have mixed Bolters and Bolt Pistols?

**solkan**

Gwar! wrote:So, question for you guys:
Furioso Librarians (And I quote) "count as Leadership 10 for all psychic purposes."

Now, not regarding the complete and utter horrible vagueness of that rule, how do you guys want to see me rule in regards to things like Psychic Hoods, the Crucible of Malediction and the "Souless" rules for the Culexus and Pariahs?

As I see it, there is either the RaW, which is that Psychic Hoods, the CoM and Souless have no effect whatsoever against them (meaning the Power always punches through the Hood D: ) or I can go for a Rules change, saying that you count the Furioso Librarian as Ld 10 whenever an effect would specifically call for the psykers leadership which would allow Hoods and the CoM to affect it (but would still leave souless doing nothing, but meh, I cant think of a way to do it without completely breaking stuff).

I have to disagree. As vague as it is, the psychic hoods and Soulless fit under the "psychic purpose" umbrella. "Counts as Leadership 10" means that it counts as having a 10 Leadership, and that's when soulless would kick in and lower the leadership value.

Does there really need to be a discussion over whether models with psychic powers are psykers?

**Gwar!**

The thing is, all Soulless does is change the Ld of enemies within a certain distance. The Libby Dread doesnt HAVE a Ld, it just COUNTS AS Ld 10 for "Psychic Purposes" (whatever they are).

So, how's this for a [Rules Change/Clarification] compromise:
The Furioso Librarian Counts as Ld 10 whenever it performs a Psychic Test or needs to reference it's Leadership Value as a result of a psychic power being used (e.g. Psychic Hoods). Special Rules that would change or reduce this leadership affect the Librarian as if it were a non-vehicle psyker (e.g. Soulless). Special Rules that specifically affect Psykers and that call for a Leadership Value use a Leadership Value of 10, modified by any appropriate modifiers as if the Librarian Dread were a non-vehicle Psyker (e.g. Crucible of Malediction).

**don_mondo**

Sounds good and proper to me.

**Homer S**

Here's my question for the FAQ:

How do you make an FAQ for a book that isn't released for another 18 days or so?

Homer

**don_mondo**

You read it at the counter of the local game store......???

**lixulana**

Joetaco wrote:Make sure to make to print out a couple copies of your FAQ and have them sealed and postmarked (poor/ lazymans copywrite)
That way Dakka won't have another repeat of the "stolen tyranid faq" fiasco.
Good luck with it, can't wait to see it when its done...

that only works if the person receivenig the envelope can prove that the seal has never been broken/altered. and mailing it to yourself is rarely admissable because you can steam the envlope open and re-seal it.

**jbunny**

don_mondo wrote:You read it at the counter of the local game store......???

Not all stores get one. Mine did not, and I know three other stores in my state that did not get one.

**Gwar!**

Homer S wrote:Here's my question for the FAQ:

How do you make an FAQ for a book that isn't released for another 18 days or so?

Homer

I'm Gwar! I go to Jervis with a RaWhammer and threaten to break his kneecaps

In all Seriousness though, I looked at it in a "local" (1+ hour away) store and jotted down the bits that stuck out to me.

**Caboose**

Heres another question regarding Furioso Librarians. How do you work out a wound from perils of the warp? Glancing hit... penetrating hit... ignored or what? Or did they address that in the codex entry?

**Gwar!**

Caboose wrote:Heres another question regarding Furioso Librarians. How do you work out a wound from perils of the warp? Glancing hit... penetrating hit... ignored or what? Or did they address that in the codex entry?

They address this in the codex

**starbomber109**

I've got a silly question.

Is there some kind of rules mandate for the size of the Storm Raven, or can we go completely nuts with conversions?