Gwar!'s Unofficial Blood Angels FAQ v1.9: Feedback, Submission and Download Thread

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**Bishop of the Blackrose**

starbomber109 wrote:I've got a silly question.

Is there some kind of rules mandate for the size of the Storm Raven, or can we go completely nuts with conversions?

What he said

**phantommaster**

Would you roll on the Vehicle Damage Table with the Magna Grapple a swell as pulling a Vehicle in?

**Jackmojo**

phantommaster wrote:Would you roll on the Vehicle Damage Table with the Magna Grapple a swell as pulling a Vehicle in?

That one is clear in the weapon description (hit, work out penetration and possible damage, if vehicle survives use grapple rules to attempt movement).

And yeah it can grab and pull even it if fails to penetrate armor.

In a related note folks without the book might want to hold off on questions to keep the signal to noise ratio balanced.

Jack

**Brother Ramses**

When magna grapple grabs and pulls a vehicle, does said grappled vehicle tank shock units in the path of it being pulled towards the dread?

**Saldiven**

Gwar! wrote:The thing is, all Soulless does is change the Ld of enemies within a certain distance. The Libby Dread doesnt HAVE a Ld, it just COUNTS AS Ld 10 for "Psychic Purposes" (whatever they are).

So, how's this for a [Rules Change/Clarification] compromise:
The Furioso Librarian Counts as Ld 10 whenever it performs a Psychic Test or needs to reference it's Leadership Value as a result of a psychic power being used (e.g. Psychic Hoods). Special Rules that would change or reduce this leadership affect the Librarian as if it were a non-vehicle psyker (e.g. Soulless). Special Rules that specifically affect Psykers and that call for a Leadership Value use a Leadership Value of 10, modified by any appropriate modifiers as if the Librarian Dread were a non-vehicle Psyker (e.g. Crucible of Malediction).

Of course, I read the thread I started on this very topic before I read this thread and find the discussion has already taken place.

I think that this is the most appropriate merger of the rules, and should be called a "Clarification" rather than a "Rules Change."

**Marius Xerxes**

Brother Ramses wrote:When magna grapple grabs and pulls a vehicle, does said grappled vehicle tank shock units in the path of it being pulled towards the dread?

This is covered in the Codex.

As a previous poster said, it is probably best to only have the people who have had a good read through post questions about rules they read. Otherwise we have people fishing for rules on things which can be better done in the news and rumors section, imo.

On Topic: Does an Assault Squad Deep Striking in a Land Raider benifit from the Decent of Angels rule.

**Gwar!**

Marius Xerxes wrote:On Topic: Does an Assault Squad Deep Striking in a Land Raider benifit from the Decent of Angels rule.

That's a good one. Another good one is do models with Decent of Angels AND a Jump Pack scatter 1D6" less Twice (i.e. don't scatter).

**MeanGreenStompa**

I am interested in the construction of the FAQ.
Do you answer all the questions yourself, or are you part of a team?
Do you maintain the strictest RAW interpretations you use here in YMDC or is the FAQ influenced by notions of practicality and enjoyment of the game?

**jp400**

MeanGreenStompa wrote:I am interested in the construction of the FAQ.
Do you answer all the questions yourself, or are you part of a team?
Do you maintain the strictest RAW interpretations you use here in YMDC or is the FAQ influenced by notions of practicality and enjoyment of the game?

+1.

These things usually come out better when decided upon by a majority rather then one persons viewpoint.

**Gwar!**

jp400 wrote:These things usually come out better when decided upon by a majority rather then one persons viewpoint.

Like the INAT FAQ that is very highly consistent and has absolutely no Rules Changes hidden as Clarifications?

**jp400**

Easy there highspeed, no need to get your panties in a twist and bite my head off. Was just makeing small talk.

**EDIT**
I take that back, you know what Gwar, you can step off buddy. Im glad GW borrowed "your" faq that you stole from various users on the forum here and labled it as "your own"

**MeanGreenStompa**

Gwar! wrote:
jp400 wrote:These things usually come out better when decided upon by a majority rather then one persons viewpoint.
Like the INAT FAQ that is very highly consistent and has absolutely no Rules Changes hidden as Clarifications?

The INAT FAQs that GW not only used but publicly thanked Yakface and the ruling council for?

If by consistent, you are referring to a carefully thought out series of clarifications that strive for a sense of the fair and also make good gaming sense, then yes, your quite correct Gwar, the INAT FAQ is an excellent document.

**Gwar!**

Ok, Version 0.1 Uploaded.
Yes, it is very rough, but better to have it rough than not have it at all

I notice now I forgot to add in the Lemartes Question, I'll add that in in the next version.

**Gwar!**

v0.2 uploaded for your viewing pleasure.

**MasterSlowPoke**

Q: Does taking “Lemartes, Guardian of the Lost” replace a member of the Death Com
taken in addition to the Death Company unit?
A: The unit can be a mixture of Bolt Pistol and Bolter equipped models. [Clarification]

You probably don't have to have what is essentially the same Dedicated Transport question twice.

**Gwar!**

El Facepalm. I'll fix it now and upload v0.2b in about 10 mins

Did I say 10 mins? I mean it's up now

That's the 2nd time Ive messed up the Lemartes Question. I guess he just hates me ;(

**Gwar!**

Here is one I will add in 0.3:
How do Magna Grapples interact with Vehicle Squadrons.

Namely can they pull a Squadron out of Coherency (RaW: Yes)

**Spellbound**

Dante attaches to a unit of Honour Guard, and embark into a Stormraven Gunship.

Does the gunship scatter when it lands, as Dante's rule says he doesn't scatter?

**Gwar!**

Spellbound wrote:Dante attaches to a unit of Honour Guard, and embark into a Stormraven Gunship.

Does the gunship scatter when it lands, as Dante's rule says he doesn't scatter?

Yes, as Dante is no longer the one Deep Striking. I clarified this for Decent of Angels, but I will add this to V0.3 especially for Dante as well.

**Homer S**

On Lemartes, the codex phrasing is "The Death Company can include Lemartes." Doesn't this indicate that he is part of the total 30? If it was meant to be 31 wouldn't the phrasing be can take or something other than include?

Homer

**Gwar!**

Homer S wrote:On Lemartes, the codex phrasing is "The Death Company can include Lemartes." Doesn't this indicate that he is part of the total 30? If it was meant to be 31 wouldn't the phrasing be can take or something other than include?

Homer

I do not agree. If he was supposed to replace a member of the Death Company, it would say "Lemartes Replaces a member of the Death Company".
It doesn't, it says "May include". So, you take 30 Death COmpany, then include Lemartes for 30 DC models and 1 Lemartes Model.

**Homer S**

I guess I agree, although I would not be surprised at an FAQ change. Every other instance for quite a few back use either replace or upgrade a model as the mechanism.

Homer

**Saldiven**

Gwar! wrote:
Homer S wrote:On Lemartes, the codex phrasing is "The Death Company can include Lemartes." Doesn't this indicate that he is part of the total 30? If it was meant to be 31 wouldn't the phrasing be can take or something other than include?

Homer
I do not agree. If he was supposed to replace a member of the Death Company, it would say "Lemartes Replaces a member of the Death Company".
It doesn't, it says "May include". So, you take 30 Death COmpany, then include Lemartes for 30 DC models and 1 Lemartes Model.

I think a good example of a special character who acts as an upgrade of an existing purchased member of a squad is Arjac Rockfist in Codex: Space Wolves.

**Jackmojo**

Here's one you've not covered yet:

Heroic Intervention vs Stormraven's Skies of blood, can Vanguard assault from skies of blood?

Jack

P.S. Why the hell is the Signum listed in Weapons and not Wargear (or the Devastator entry)? I was convinced they'd left it out for 15 minutes or so hunting for it.

**warboss**

got another one for you, gwar... when you upgrade a sanguinary priest to terminator armor (or armour for you brits), you exchange his wargear for a chalice of blood and a power weapon. while RAI would assume they meant a blood chalice, pure RAW would dictate that they get nothing as a chalice of blood doesn't exist as a defined wargear option.

**agnosto**

If a vehicle from a squadron survives the magna grapple and ensuing carnage, what happens next turn? Does it move back to the squadron, wherever that may be, or is it destroyed? Let's say for argument's sake that it's not immobilized since RaW is pretty clear on what happens then.

**Valhallan42nd**

How does Seth's "whirlwind of gore" ability affect models without a WS?

Automatically Appended Next Post:

jp400 wrote:Easy there highspeed, no need to get your panties in a twist and bite my head off. Was just makeing small talk.

**EDIT**
I take that back, you know what Gwar, you can step off buddy. Im glad GW borrowed "your" faq that you stole from various users on the forum here and labled it as "your own"

You mean that he took other people's questions that were asked in a frequent manner, and then put them in a FAQ? How odd.

**Gwar!**

@warboss and agnosto: DOne and done. Added to my local 0.5 copy

@Valhallan: Nice catch, adding now.

Expect 0.5 to be released some time tonight or tomorrow and v1 the day after.

**warboss**

Valhallan42nd wrote:How does Seth's "whirlwind of gore" ability affect models without a WS?

i don't see any confusion on that one. the rule simply says "instead of making his normal attacks, ..... seth inflicts a single automatic hit on all enemy models in base contact." you don't make his normal attacks (and thereby don't use the normal rules) but instead hit any enemy touching his base with one s8 rending hit. he hits them regardless of WS, distance moved, etc. forcing him to reroll the hit doesn't do anything as he doesn't actually roll with that. is there a rules conflict i'm missing?

**Gwar!**

Jackmojo wrote:Here's one you've not covered yet:
Heroic Intervention vs Stormraven's Skies of blood, can Vanguard assault from skies of blood?

I didn't think it needed to be covered, it's pretty clear in the Heroic Intervention Rules

I'll add it anyway since I can see why it would be asked