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I have always left the canopies on my Eldar vehicles clear, and showed off the detail inside the cockpit. However, my IG list is centered on an Iwo Jima WW2 theme, so I do not want to show the modern "jet fighter" looking pilots in my Vendettas.

Does anyone have a good tutorial on painting canopies, or even some good pics? I have seen several Eldar canopies painted, but I haven't seen any Valks yet, and I want to get a good idea of how to paint the lighting.

Thanx

If you put a few coats of ink on the inside of the canopies you can get a nice smoked out look. My eldar canopies are all done with blue ink on the inside. It comes across looking like it would be fine to see through from the outside only.

CrimsonTurkey wrote:If you put a few coats of ink on the inside of the canopies you can get a nice smoked out look. My eldar canopies are all done with blue ink on the inside. It comes across looking like it would be fine to see through from the outside only.

could we see some samples? sounds interesting.

You could also use wet'n'dry paper on the inner surface to make it obscure.
This will also give a better surface for the ink to grip to.

I painted this aaages ago, the inside of the canopy was given many many washes of thinned down purple ink. If you don't water it down, you'll get a very streaky finish. Flowaid might help here too

Ok...somehow everyone got on the subject of using washes/inks on the inside of the canopy. That is not what I want to do. I asked about tutorials or pics for painting the canopy...that means painting the outside, not inking the inside.

Thanks

Hi,
If i understand you correctly, you are asking for advice on how to paint the canopy "framework" as opposed to the "glass".
If this is the case then i would suggest painting the glass first with copydex glue. This stuff is very tacky, and will act as a mask so you can paint the framework without painting the glass. Once the paint has dried, you can then carefully peel off the glue, leaving the glass untouched.
Hope this helps.
AtB,
Toothpick

Toothpick wrote:Hi,
If i understand you correctly, you are asking for advice on how to paint the canopy "framework" as opposed to the "glass".
If this is the case then i would suggest painting the glass first with copydex glue. This stuff is very tacky, and will act as a mask so you can paint the framework without painting the glass. Once the paint has dried, you can then carefully peel off the glue, leaving the glass untouched.
Hope this helps.
AtB,
Toothpick

No..my original post is quite clear. I don't want to see the "modern" jet pilots at all, as this a WW2 themed list and those guys throw it way off. The Vend hulls are receiving a pintjob that is a cross between a F4U Corsair and P38 Lightning (Corair colors and wing markings and Lightning fuselage markings, because of how the reaer of the model looks).

I would like help with painting the outside of the canopy glass, not the "framework". In the past, I have seen some beautifully painted eldar canopies, complete with lighting effects painted onto the outside of the "glass", however, I have yet to see an Valk/Vend done in that manner. I was hoping for someone who has done/seen this to share their experience/advice/pictures.

I think that what OP is looking for is help to paint the canopy like this Falcon, but in his Vendettas.



Maybe like this?




The idea is just making the glass opaque, but good looking.

I think I know what your on about, how about painting the corners of the canopy starting with bright colours and then slowly making it darker or thinner, this should give an image of two lights at the bottom of the canopy or above if that's what you want ^^

Hi,

Maybe this is the sort of thing you're looking for:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/205419.page#210121

Yep..those are types of canopy paintjobs I am talking about.

My thing is that I have lots of experience with painting lighting effects on rounded surfaces (I have painted way too many Eldar gems to count), but I am having trouble converting that experience to the hard angles of a Valks canopy and keeping it ocnsistent across all the individual panels.

Does anyone have pics of a Valk like this, so I have a better idea of what I should be doing?

are the canopies curved, like the Eldar ones, or flat like the Valk?
Model chopppers have flat glass as this reduces the chances of reflectice glare.
Therefore the painting technique will differ.

Alerian wrote:Yep..those are types of canopy paintjobs I am talking about.

My thing is that I have lots of experience with painting lighting effects on rounded surfaces (I have painted way too many Eldar gems to count), but I am having trouble converting that experience to the hard angles of a Valks canopy and keeping it ocnsistent across all the individual panels.

Does anyone have pics of a Valk like this, so I have a better idea of what I should be doing?

Did you even read ^^this^^, before you posted the following?...

bubber wrote:are the canopies curved, like the Eldar ones, or flat like the Valk?
Model chopppers have flat glass as this reduces the chances of reflectice glare.
Therefore the painting technique will differ.

Please, read the previous posts before posting. Repeating oneself gets very annoying, when all someone has to do is take the time to read before asking questions. Thanks.

Alerian wrote:

Alerian wrote:Yep..those are types of canopy paintjobs I am talking about.

My thing is that I have lots of experience with painting lighting effects on rounded surfaces (I have painted way too many Eldar gems to count), but I am having trouble converting that experience to the hard angles of a Valks canopy and keeping it ocnsistent across all the individual panels.

Does anyone have pics of a Valk like this, so I have a better idea of what I should be doing?

Did you even read ^^this^^, before you posted the following?...

bubber wrote:are the canopies curved, like the Eldar ones, or flat like the Valk?
Model chopppers have flat glass as this reduces the chances of reflectice glare.
Therefore the painting technique will differ.

Please, read the previous posts before posting. Repeating oneself gets very annoying, when all someone has to do is take the time to read before asking questions. Thanks.

Calm down. People are getting confused about your post is all.

Alerian wrote:

Alerian wrote:Yep..those are types of canopy paintjobs I am talking about.

My thing is that I have lots of experience with painting lighting effects on rounded surfaces (I have painted way too many Eldar gems to count), but I am having trouble converting that experience to the hard angles of a Valks canopy and keeping it ocnsistent across all the individual panels.

Does anyone have pics of a Valk like this, so I have a better idea of what I should be doing?

Did you even read ^^this^^, before you posted the following?...

bubber wrote:are the canopies curved, like the Eldar ones, or flat like the Valk?
Model chopppers have flat glass as this reduces the chances of reflectice glare.
Therefore the painting technique will differ.

Please, read the previous posts before posting. Repeating oneself gets very annoying, when all someone has to do is take the time to read before asking questions. Thanks.

Post us a picture of what type of canopy painting you are talking about.
Because clearly most of us surely arnt on the same wave length / frequency as you.

Confused?

Now I am confused... I have done nothing but ask for help in painting the outside of Valk/Vend canopies.....I have even gone so far as to describe the paintjob that the Vend/Valk bodies are recieving...there is nothing confusing about it.

I am not upset. But, it is frustrating when everytime I check this thread today, there is someone asking questions that were already answered further up the thread, rather than actually posting something helpful.....just a waste of time, that is all.

@Luna...
How many times do I have to say "Valk/Vend" before you think people should know what type of canopy I am talking about? The only way a pic would help, would be if I was posting the type of canopy paintjob I am looking for...however, the entire point of this thread is to get someone else to post such I pic, because I can't find one...kinda defeats the purpose

Yes im confused

LunaHound wrote:Yes im confused

Valk....Valk....Valk.....Valk.....still confused?

All I am looking for are pictures or tutorials on Valk canopies that are painted on the outside....not that hard......unless of course, you are just trolling...

Alerian wrote:

LunaHound wrote:Yes im confused

Valk....Valk....Valk.....Valk.....still confused?

All I am looking for are pictures or tutorials on Valk canopies that are painted on the outside....not that hard......unless of course, you are just trolling...

I dont troll.
However i can tell you im also not a mind reader.

There are different types of painted canopies , how do you expect us to tell you how when you refuse to specify which type you want???
I just saw your edit , yes we know its valkyrie canopy , but if you cant find a picture , then describe the type you visualize or wanted????

All I want are different pics of how people have painted the outside of their Valk canopies, because I have NEVER seen one...I have been very clear about this....all I want are pics/tutorials for ideas of how I can paint the outside of a Valk, and make it realistic.

I want as many pics of painted Valk canopies as I can get....

You are making this WAY to hard...

Alerian wrote:All I want are different pics of how people have painted the outside of their Valk canopies, because I have NEVER seen one...I have been very clear about this....all I want are pics/tutorials for ideas of how I can paint the outside of a Valk, and make it realistic.

I want as many pics of painted Valk canopies as I can get....

You are making this WAY to hard...

You said you painted curved Eldar canopies. Ok , what you do , is take all the curved lines and make it straight and paralell?
Its basically a reflection almost like a mirror?

I tried...it looks like garbage....hence why I want pics of how others have done it....

Alerian wrote:I tried...it looks like garbage....hence why I want pics of how others have done it....

Well its my turn to be confused , how does it work when you curve the reflection on eldar and it looks fine
and when straighten , its not fine? they work on the same principle?

But what i do know is , valkyrie canopies though "flat" their are angled / \ . Which means they are reflecting the sky.

Here found you bunch of reference:

http://cartalesart.com/michaelirvine.html

And to achieve ^ i believe you'll be fine with this:

http://www.one-ring.co.uk/phpBB2/kb.php?mode=article&k=175

Paint the INSIDE of the canopy a solid colour (several coats of thinned down black workd well). You'll want the clear over the top to give a nice reflective area and an impression of thickness to the glass. If possible, use klear/ future on top of that to get it *really* shiny.

sorry but your rudeness & impatiance has turn my of this thread.
good luck

What about just modding the pilots to make them fit the theme? This'd look much cooler IMHO

I like Winterdyne's suggestion. If you use enough ink, the pilots will be almost invisible and the canopy will remain nice and shiny on the outside.

TBH trying to paint the outside of the glass to make it look like it reflects the sky is probably pointless unless your painting is somewhere close to GD standard. So cheat

The model is used and already put together...I will not risk damaging it to get the canopy off...it must be painted on the outside. Doing anything to the inside is not an option. This is why I keep asking for suggestions/pictures about painting the outside only.

So, please, no more suggestions about painting/inking the inside. Thanks

bubber wrote:sorry but your rudeness & impatiance has turn my of this thread.
good luck

This.

Besides, Luna already posted a link to an awesome tutorial on how to paint more or less exactly what you're asking for. Unless what you're looking for is a picture that you can copy without any imagination involved it should more than suffice. So thanks for that Luna, if nothing else I definitely learned something from it!