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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8603591.stm

BBC wrote:Prime Minister Gordon Brown has confirmed that the UK general election will be held on 6 May.

Who are you going to vote for? Why? Do you still support Browns policies, or do you think Cameron would make a better leader?
Perhaps you prefer a smaller, independent party? Do you think there will be a hung parliament?

For our international Dakkites, who do you prefer? Why?

Discuss ad nauseam.

If I bother to vote, it will be for a smaller party.

I can't vote for Brown, the guy is a cretin, and I can't vote for the Tories, the whole bunch of them are weasels.

I would actually like to see a hung parliament, to reign in the excesses of whichever party has the majority.

So in a general election, is this an election to send high ranking military officers off to Iraq in order to fight America's war?

WarOne wrote:So in a general election, is this an election to send high ranking military officers off to Iraq in order to fight America's war?

In the same that a general anaesthetic is to be used only on high ranking military officers.

The conservatives have been saying labour stole their polices for the last fourteen years,
and I believe them. Well they haven't worked.

So voting conservative is more of the same, and voting labour is also more of the same.

Proberly vote independant, if their is one.

Voting conservative. They are slightly right of centre. As am i, and as are most people with a brain that was not tampered with mormon style by their parents. Who doesnt agree with being tougher on crime, being sensible with immigration, being fiscally responsible? The pinko labour party and the lib dems wont be happy until our army wear pink berets and we all wear traditional african dress. The BNP are too far right and are crazy, and i dislike them as much as i hate hand wringing liberals and hippys, so better the devil you know. Seems simple to me.

Voting Conservative. We need Labour out. Yesterday.

For me it comes down to who will best deal with the MASSIVE deficiet we are now sitting in. I've seen partial plans from both the major parties but nothing precise. It depends how much these plans affect me and family and how well layed out these plans are to stimulate growth of UK business and growth of the £ again.

At this moment I don't have anough information to help me make a decision.

I am shrugging and loathing all of them.

I will be living in the US in a few months, if all is well.

Then it's me n the missus in a fortified bunker/self sufficient farm, armed to the teeth - like 'The Good Life' meets 'Zombieland'...

loki old fart wrote:

Proberly vote independant, if their is one.

I hear Perot is always available. See? Here is his 2012 campaign poster:

I live in Ealing Southall -- here are the results at last election:

48.8%
Piara Khabra (Labour): 22937 votes (+1.3%).

24.4%
Nigel Bakhai (Liberal Democrat): 11497 votes (+14.4%).

21.6%
Mark Nicholson (Conservative): 10147 votes (+3.3%).

4.6%
Sarah Edwards (Green Party): 2175 votes (+0.1%).

I don't want to vote Labour or Conservative, as I think they are both as bad as each other. I could vote Liberal, and they might have a chance at getting in. I could vote Green as a protest vote.

Overall I think the country needs to tackle the deficit, improve education and training for jobs, and build up good infrastructure so that the economy grows and employs more people in the future. That can be done by a combination of reduced social provision and increased taxes. The pain has to be shared out as evenly as possible. It won't get done by "efficiency savings".

It needs to be done before the demographic timebomb explodes, but no party in the past 50 years has dared to grasp the nettle.

I would also be pleased to see tax reform. The current system is ridiculously complicated.

I struggle to see how anyone who isn't:
A: Insane
B: Of such low IQ they should be unable to spell 'A'
C: A labor parliamentarian or aperatchick.

able to vote for the Labor party.

They've stuffed your country, stuffed the economy, set in motion the rise of the far right BNP through dissilusionment, and made a nanny state of such epic proportions that criminals are put ahead of people defending themselves or their property.

The conservatives are right of centre but not nuts.
The lib dems are... well I don't know because it seems the only people who know waht the lib dems are for are the lib dems....

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:I struggle to see how anyone who isn't:
A: Insane
B: Of such low IQ they should be unable to spell 'A'
C: A labor parliamentarian or aperatchick.

able to vote for the Labor party.

They've stuffed your country, stuffed the economy, set in motion the rise of the far right BNP through dissilusionment, and made a nanny state of such epic proportions that criminals are put ahead of people defending themselves or their property.

The conservatives are right of centre but not nuts.
The lib dems are... well I don't know because it seems the only people who know waht the lib dems are for are the lib dems....

QFT.

Its not that they have a low IQ, its that their parents train them this way. I live in Middlesbrough, and we have a "Labour Taliban" that will vote for them until they die. No matter what they do. Their Dads tell them about Thatcher crushing the miners every day and they grow up to support Labour regardless of current events. Once the neural fibres harden there is no turning back. If you can brainwash a kid to volutarily blow himself up, you can get him to vote for your party of choice with consumate ease.

The left and their incessant politcal correctness has caused all of this. I recall Micheal Howard saying about 6 years ago that "if you force political correctness onto people, then you force them into the arms of the right" and now look where we are, more lower and working class people are going to vote BNP than ever before, because they (often wrongly) presume that Johnny Foreigner is getting everything for free.

Eh, the people I know who are going to be voting Labour are doing so because they think the Torys are worse, and no one else has a chance. (Although if anyone but the Torys wins my area, I'll be ).

Personly, I'm torn between Lib-Dem and whichever of the smaller parties (Green/UKIP/CD/Indys) decides to put up a candidate.

I defenatly won't be voting Labour/Tory/BMP/MRLP.

I'll be voting Green if we get a candidate here. Otherwise I'll be spoiling my ballot paper.

I was considering voting tory up until a few weeks ago when i saw the first campaign posters which, instead of publicizing conservative policies, attack Labour instead. I wasn't overly surprised by this but i was reminded of how annoying it is to be treated like a fething idiot especially when it's my tax money that's being used to do it. I know Labour have fethed up the country over the last few years, the Conservatives have not provided a decent opposition though and spending my tax money to turn the General Election into some kind of schoolyard-mud-slinging competition just stiffens my resolve to stick a big middle finger up at the ruling elite.

/rant

mattyrm wrote:

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:I struggle to see how anyone who isn't:
A: Insane
B: Of such low IQ they should be unable to spell 'A'
C: A labor parliamentarian or aperatchick.

able to vote for the Labor party.

They've stuffed your country, stuffed the economy, set in motion the rise of the far right BNP through dissilusionment, and made a nanny state of such epic proportions that criminals are put ahead of people defending themselves or their property.

The conservatives are right of centre but not nuts.
The lib dems are... well I don't know because it seems the only people who know waht the lib dems are for are the lib dems....

QFT.

Its not that they have a low IQ, its that their parents train them this way. I live in Middlesbrough, and we have a "Labour Taliban" that will vote for them until they die. No matter what they do. Their Dads tell them about Thatcher crushing the miners every day and they grow up to support Labour regardless of current events. Once the neural fibres harden there is no turning back. If you can brainwash a kid to volutarily blow himself up, you can get him to vote for your party of choice with consumate ease.

The left and their incessant politcal correctness has caused all of this. I recall Micheal Howard saying about 6 years ago that "if you force political correctness onto people, then you force them into the arms of the right" and now look where we are, more lower and working class people are going to vote BNP than ever before, because they (often wrongly) presume that Johnny Foreigner is getting everything for free.

You guys probably aren't old enough to remember Thatch, the Tory sponsored recession of the late 80s and the brown envelopes scandal. You also may not be aware of the wave of privatisations that have since gone badly wrong, e.g. the water companies, BA and British Rail.

I can, and it is a big part of my distrust for the Tories now, also I have come to the conclusion that Cameron and some of his shadow cabinet are serious lightweights.

That's not to say I hold a torch for Labour as I also remember the Winter of Discontent and I can see that kind of situation creeping up on us again.

mattyrm wrote:

Its not that they have a low IQ, its that their parents train them this way. I live in Middlesbrough, and we have a "Labour Taliban" that will vote for them until they die. No matter what they do. Their Dads tell them about Thatcher crushing the miners every day and they grow up to support Labour regardless of current events. Once the neural fibres harden there is no turning back. If you can brainwash a kid to volutarily blow himself up, you can get him to vote for your party of choice with consumate ease.

The left and their incessant politcal correctness has caused all of this. I recall Micheal Howard saying about 6 years ago that "if you force political correctness onto people, then you force them into the arms of the right" and now look where we are, more lower and working class people are going to vote BNP than ever before, because they (often wrongly) presume that Johnny Foreigner is getting everything for free.

Whereas I will not be voting, because there is no left wing party to vote for...

And if you're going to start listening to Michael Howerd... Well young man, there ain't much hope for you.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1189983/Former-Tory-leader-Michael-Howard-claimed-17-000-gardening-services.html
He also:
*Introduced the Poll Tax.
*Privatised the National Water boards.
*Was the Employment Secretary during the highest unemployment figures since records began.
*Implemented Section 28 forbidding the discussion of homosexuality in school sex education.
*Despite pledges to halt immigration, is the son of a Romanian economic migrant...

Labour and Conservative? Aren't they the same party? I mean since they have the same policies and ideologies....

^^
Careful, you'll ruin the Sun's sales figures with that kind of talk

I am having trouble with my vote, I don't know what to do. In my constituency there are five parties running, they are all giving me a head ache over who to vote for.

I could vote Tory. As I think britain is broken. On every street corner is a knife wielding hoodie who wants to kill me, so I live in constant fear that I am about to get gangraped every time I step outside my home. I wish with all my heart that this nightmare would end and we could go back to the simple old mass race riots and football hooliganism of the conservative eighties, such a safer time to live. I could vote conservative as it sickens me how our government have sent our economy to hell what with this apocalyptic send up of privatisation and capitalism which is totally new and has absolutely nothing to do with anything the last conservative government did. And those left wingers really grind my gears, nothing does it more than the great big left wing monster that is the labour party, it nauseates me how left they are.

I could vote the green party. As I wish to use a climate change pressure group as protest vote against all other parties un-adequacy. In no way do I think the government would misinterpret a success this election by the green party solely as a protest against their policies on climate change. But if they did it wouldn't be such a bad thing, since being a world leader in cutting down energy usage is obviously not good enough and I would happily welcome another ton of taxes on fuel.

I could vote Labour. As I don't think this country has been to enough wars in the past thirteen years and the best thing for our countries defence right now is sending our military to their deaths in Afghanistan, which of course is the very epicentre of all terrorist activity on earth and once the war is won all remaining terrorists will simply surrender. But in any case, freeing Afghanistan from their oppressive government and replacing it with with a completely un-corrupt government and then fighting for it's survival is almost a better achievement than defeating terrorism anyway.

I could vote BNP. As I'm too tired of all those foreigners coming into our country and taking all our unskilled, low paid work. It makes me sick how a white British child can grow up wanting to stuff pies in a factory for a living only to find the job he has dreamed about all his life is taken by some polish lad who is willing to work seventy hours a week for minimum wage; who shamelessly took advantage of EU laws which allow him to work in another EU country, I mean it's not like a substantial number of britons do the same in other EU countries, is it?

I could vote Liberal. As I think a political party with the presence of a dead lama in it's own house would kick our country's image up a notch once in control of our government.


I however will certainly not be spoiling my vote and writing "you're all a bunch of useless *****s" on it in bold capitals before ruing the five minutes I've just wasted in the polling station.

...and I definitely wont be being sarcastic in any conversation about this brilliant demonstration of our democratic government that is the 2010 general election.

Its all a bit grim to be sure.. but whats the alternative i must ask? Dont vote? Vote for a nutter? I dont see how any of thats gonna help either..

I support Matt and Albatross. Wait, feth that! You could just push for a stronger monarchy, or if you really wanna be controversial, revive the Jacobite movement.

I agree with mattyrm, if the Lib dems or Green party get the keys to No. 10 then the Birtish Armed forces will be dwarfed by Lichtenstein's massive paramilitary juggernaut.

However I'm voting Tories. I did for Norwich North by-election, despite the fact that it was used as a public backlash at Labour and that 60% of the Constituants didn't bother voting.

I find the BNP comical, just because Nick Griffin couldn't hold a debate with a mute, let alone the nations greatest gay-non-lesbian Germaine Greer,and a few ex circus chimps on 'QuestionTime'. That was a debacle. BUT, it did raise the popularity for BNP and the English Defense League.

I think Labour's shortfalls have allowed 'Dangerous' thinking in the minds of young,jobless white/black/asian lads who will flock to their respective ethinc tribes. Hate will spill out eventually. Lets hope the Tories can curb that and get GREAT BRITAIN back on track.

Bash

Hey Jeb id be all up for abolishing parliament as long as the queen is alive, but when the dear old lady dies, and her gibbering jug eared son rises to rule.. ill be less happy.

mattyrm wrote:Hey Jeb id be all up for abolishing parliament as long as the queen is alive, but when the dear old lady dies, and her gibbering jug eared son rises to rule.. ill be less happy.

Ah yes, the old: I'm happy living under absolute monarchy, as long as I like the person in charge.

I would vote for anyone who can drive the Pound down lower to equality with the Dollar so Forgeworld stuff is cheaper. But I am a selfish donkey-cave that way.

I vote for a new kind of ruler...

I'll be hoping My friends In England stay left of center. It may seem like you issues are with your party but it's more to do with wars and this resession, than any policy. Sorry about thoes btw. Comming down on people from other countries, or talking debt reduction, sounds good, but ask youself, What ARE thier plans to fix debt. Will it involve things like raising taxes, cutting your healthcare, for firing Government workers.

I took a "who should you vote for in the UK" test on the internet. I was all over the place, and I still can't tell you the difference between Labors, Liberals, Tories, and Independents (the Greens and Nationalists are easier to recognise, though).

It's going to have to involve raising taxes, and cutting some aspects of government spending.

Social security and pensions are first in the firing line because they are the biggest single line items. Then comes health and education.

No-one wants to touch health and education because they are practically sacred and actually make a positive contribution to maintaining and improving the whole country and economy. (Sick, thick people don't make good workers.)

Once you get to areas like infrastructure, the military and diplomatic service, the sums being spent are pretty small so it's a lot harder to find the necessary savings.

Basically social provision is going to have to be cut back. Taxes are going to have to be raised because the pain must be shared out and because it's well off people (like me, to be honest) who have got the money. There will be some across the board tax rises too, because a penny on basic income tax can raise more than 10p on the rich.

No government wants to tackle these issues because it is going to be unpopular with everyone. Without tackling them, though, the UK will eventually run itself into the ground because of the deficit.

It's OK to run a deficit if the money is invested in useful infrastructure, education and research, that kind of thing. You can grow your ecnomy and reduce the deficit. But the UK has for decades been investing too much of its deficit in social welfare.