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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/17 20:54:41
Subject: Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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Designing a Crusade:
So, I finally got some time off to work on some projects again. So, I'm restarting my Black Templar Crusade from scratch.
Modeling:
I've been working on designs for a Actual-scale Templar Crusade. For the most part the entire crusade will be outfitted with MKVIII armor with similar finishes to the current "Emperors Champion" and "Jump pack Chaplain" So, Knightly helmets, pleated boots, Chain Mail, etc. The will be lots of bastard swords, shields and medieval weaponry.
Yeah, I know what your thinking an all actual scale army, impossible?!! But nothing is impossible for a Master of the Dark Arts.... So, I will be employ techniques that I can neither show or speak of these few models I'm showing here will quickly grow to over a hundred or so in the coming weeks.
Vehicles:
These will be actual scaled as well but not in the commonly seen way. The rhinos, vindicators, and Land raiders will be enlarged using a styrene inserts and aves epoxy putty. The will also be enlarged bikes while the dreads will likely be custom sculpted.
Painting:
I want to paint the army in fashion similar to the codex cover. The color contrasts their are just so striking, and complementary. I've never been a fan of GW style highlighting, or Heavy Metal style, as I got into 40k after having spent years building military kits. So, anyway I was watching Excalibur for inspiration and really like the idea of having some glossy armored Templar. Something along the lines of Black lacquered armor with gold trims similar to the Codex cover, and crimson accents. I'd also will include matte elements such a their tabards and other cloth elements as well. Then I'll add a bit of weathering mud splashes to contrast with the pristine armor.
So anyway lets get started. I'm basing these conversions off Doghouse's and Lamenter's wonderful actual scale tutorials, with some additional flourish I've stolen...er..borrowed from the many, many great BT armies on this very forum. I have several pages of pre-prodution sketches for this project that I have to get scanned. I'll be posting the sketches up soon.
Most of the Initiates will use legs based off these:
I also repose several sets of Terminator legs to get more varied poses:
Maybe on in five Initiates will have armor based off this torso:
Rivets:
I used to use putty to do this, but its just to time consuming and I always end up smashing them or having them pop off.
The rivets are actually super simple to do. I'm using "glitter beads" or "micro beads"; they're tiny metal or glass marbles that come is sizes between 0.25 - 1.5 mm. There just tiny little glass beads that come is shiny colors like the silver I'm using here. You can get like a million of them for a $2-3. Just drill and appropriate sized hole where you want the rivet add a tiny amount of super-glue. Then pour the beads of the model. Instant rivets and all the same size. I bought 0.5mm silver beads and 1.0 mm copper beads. You can thanks the wife for the tip.
Some of the larger rivets as the knee joint etc, use stainless steel balls that come in 1.0 mm, 1.5 mm, and 2.0 mm sizes. There a bit more expensive, but worth it in my opinion. My FW Keeper of Secrets and the Daemon Princesses use these as rivets on the armor.
Another tip is top count the number of turns you make with your pin-vise, so that all your holes are of uniform depth.
Okay here's some pictures of what I'm using for rivets. I got the all of these off ebay, by the way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/17 21:37:49
Subject: Re:Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/04/17 21:39:16
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/17 21:48:22
Subject: Re:Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Really good job so far , i can see that a lot of time has been put into this project i will be keeping an eye on it
Great job ~UnDeAd~
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/17 21:48:23
Subject: Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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Dude...just wow! Very impressive so far! Not so sure about the skull helmet yet, maybe try to place it a little bit higher, it looks as if the figure has no more neck or something underneath that armour.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/17 21:49:28
Subject: Re:Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Doc Brown
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No Sersi, you don't suck. You don't make me ooze with jealousy everytime I see your work. Your Slaaneshi daemons aren't the greatest things I've ever seen and your BT aren't already making me cry in greed...
I hate to see your work cause I love it sooo much! TT.TT
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"From the fires of Betrayal unto the blood of revenge we bring the name of Lorgar, the Bearer of the Word, the favored Son of Chaos, all praise be given to him. From those that would not heed we offer praise to those who do, that they might turn their gaze our way and gift us with the Boon of Pain, to turn the Galaxy red with the blood, and feed the hunger of the Gods."
-Excerpt from the Three Hundred and Forty-First
Book of Epistles of Lorgar
Cheese Elemental wrote:That made me think... what's a good pick-up line in the Imperium?
"Hey baby, my plasma cannon's running hot and I need to purge you in the name of the Emperor tonight." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/17 21:59:55
Subject: Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
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This is amazingness! The rivets are ingenius!
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95% of teens would go into a panic attack if the jonas brothers were about to jump off the empire state building copy and paste this if you are the 5% who would pull up a lawn chair grab some popcorn and yell JUMP BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mekboy wrote:Tzeentch: Full house! Yay!
Deciver: Straight Flush! Yay!
Eldrad: Four of a kind! Awww!
Creed: Warhound titan. Die, xenos scum!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/18 10:24:50
Subject: Re:Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Guarding Guardian
New Zealand
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A whole crusade of these guys would be fething awesome.
I want MOAR!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/18 11:22:57
Subject: Re:Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Tunneling Trygon
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Son Of Horus wrote:A whole crusade of these guys would be fething awesome.
I want MOAR!
Just about what I was thinking.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/18 11:53:43
Subject: Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Awesome start to what will surely be an awesome project!
Good luck - and I can't wait to see more!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/18 12:06:50
Subject: Re:Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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~UnDeAd~:
Thanks. This army has been bouncing around in my head for a long, long time. I'm just happy I have the time to get it going, now.
Malika2:
Yes, I see that now. not to worry though I drew up a scaling chart that I'm measuring all my marines against, I'll be correcting the neck.
Lorgar's_Blessed:
Thanks you. That's one heck of a compliment.
person person:
Thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/18 12:31:43
Subject: Re:Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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DR:90S+G+M++B++I+Pw40k00#-D+A++/mWD292R+T(M)DM+
FW Epic Bunker: £97,871.35. Overpriced at all?
Black Legion 8th Grand Company
Cadian XV Airborne "Flying Fifteens"
Order of the Ebon Chalice
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/18 19:53:17
Subject: Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Would be cool, wish i could see the pictures though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/18 21:25:31
Subject: Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
Adumar
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Lookin' great so far. Keep up the good work
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"We Die Standing" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/18 21:27:52
Subject: Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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All I see are a bunch of "bandwidth exceeded" messages. How about you host somewhere other than that pos Photobucket?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/18 21:30:26
Subject: Re:Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Xenohunter with First Contact
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how very unprofessional
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/18 21:54:56
Subject: Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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Breotan wrote:All I see are a bunch of "bandwidth exceeded" messages. How about you host somewhere other than that pos Photobucket?
Please?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/18 22:05:44
Subject: Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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According to the pics you need to upgrade your photobucket to pro today...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/18 23:21:07
Subject: Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Or just transfer the pics onta Dakka! Seriously it's really tantallising........Why am I greatful I didn't put that into the Slaanesh Daemons blog?
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"But me no buts! Our comrades get hurt. Our friends die. Falkenburg is a knight who swore an oath to serve the church and to defend the weak. He'd be the first to tell you to stop puling and start planning. Because what we are doing-at risk to ourselves-is what we have sworn to do. The West relies on us. It is a risk we take with pride. It is an oath we honour. Even when some soft southern burgher mutters about us, we know the reason he sleeps soft and comfortable, why his wife is able to complain about the price of cabbages as her most serious problem and why his children dare to throw dung and yell "Knot" when we pass. It's because we are what we are. For all our faults we stand for law and light.
Von Gherens This Rough Magic Lackey, Flint & Freer
Mekagorkalicious -Monkeytroll
2017 Model Count-71
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/19 00:07:10
Subject: Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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Okay, the bandwidth problem is fixed!
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"Fear the cute ones." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/19 00:49:10
Subject: Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Brilliant and wow!
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"But me no buts! Our comrades get hurt. Our friends die. Falkenburg is a knight who swore an oath to serve the church and to defend the weak. He'd be the first to tell you to stop puling and start planning. Because what we are doing-at risk to ourselves-is what we have sworn to do. The West relies on us. It is a risk we take with pride. It is an oath we honour. Even when some soft southern burgher mutters about us, we know the reason he sleeps soft and comfortable, why his wife is able to complain about the price of cabbages as her most serious problem and why his children dare to throw dung and yell "Knot" when we pass. It's because we are what we are. For all our faults we stand for law and light.
Von Gherens This Rough Magic Lackey, Flint & Freer
Mekagorkalicious -Monkeytroll
2017 Model Count-71
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/19 01:45:46
Subject: Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
In a Toyota, plotting revenge.
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Nice idea!
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metallifan said: I almost wonder is "Matt Ward" another pen name for C.S. Goto?
metallifan said: The Imperium would probably love Hitler...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/19 05:10:50
Subject: Re:Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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Dreadnoughts:
While, these are a ways off yet. Someone from another forum asked me about Dread. So, here are some of my thoughts on them. I'm not doing custom dreadnoughts because of scale issues. I'm doing them because I can! : lol: Honestly, I look at the the mechas from Warmachine and there are a allot of elements that could be incorporated into a dread design that is true to 40K and yet looks like it can actually: walk, run, fight, etc. That and the knightly heads are pretty killer as well. You might even see a hint of Mechwarrior in the designs I'll be posting up later. Because not only am I a bit nostalgic for the designs, there are some practical elements to borrow as well.
This should be pretty interesting as I just bought a lathe machine for my workshop. I've wanted one for ages....and the wife finally lets me go shopping...he..he... So as soon as I get the techniques down, I'll be turning some styrene and renshape elements for the dreads. Eventually I'll be turning gun barrels for my fine-scale modeling projects as well. Sooo, excited...anyway. My dream modeling project is to build a fully pose-able stop-motion Warhound Titan, I slowly acquiring the skill to make that happen.
Update is a few minutes, I'm still processing the pictures is Photoshop.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Okay, the sculpting on these is pretty much done, just a little light sanding and filing is require. Then its time for rivets and detailing.
Let's try these out with a couple of the new torsos, I'm working on:
Here's another one:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/19 11:32:14
Subject: Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Been Around the Block
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Those are looking pretty bad ass the first head looks a little small for the body but the second head looks much better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/19 13:08:17
Subject: Re:Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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Yeah, that head does seem slightly small; but I intend for to hall all the exposed heads to be covered in a chain-mail like coif. So, that will help bulk out the heads a bit. Plus, they need to be slightly smaller for the helmets to fit over them. Yes, there will be removable helmets to....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/19 14:44:44
Subject: Re:Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Been Around the Block
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Sersi wrote:Plus, they need to be slightly smaller for the helmets to fit over them. Yes, there will be removable helmets to....
removable helmets! haha this project just got even more bad ass now i really cant wait to see these guys finished.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/20 02:51:58
Subject: Re:Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
Adumar
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Sersi wrote:Yes, there will be removable helmets to....
You just made this project go from bad ass to a gift from the Emperor himself!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/20 03:36:33
Subject: Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Fixture of Dakka
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Removable helmets... now you are just screwing with us.
Seriously though, thanks a ton for the ball bearing rivet idea. I have a scratch built titan that needs like 10^34 bloody rivets, and I was putting off doing the job until I figured a reasonable way to get the damned business done. This will be just the ticket!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/23 02:20:52
Subject: Re:Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Sinewy Scourge
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The second head makes me think of a drill sergeant. Maybe you should leave the helm off and make him a squad leader.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/24 08:11:27
Subject: Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
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Yeah, sort of like a young Schwartzenegger.
But removeable helmets?!?! For cereal?!?!
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95% of teens would go into a panic attack if the jonas brothers were about to jump off the empire state building copy and paste this if you are the 5% who would pull up a lawn chair grab some popcorn and yell JUMP BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mekboy wrote:Tzeentch: Full house! Yay!
Deciver: Straight Flush! Yay!
Eldrad: Four of a kind! Awww!
Creed: Warhound titan. Die, xenos scum!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/24 12:31:29
Subject: Steel & Zeal - An Actual Scale Black Templar Crusade
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Monstrous Master Moulder
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Very ambitious, I'd say
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Bewhiskered Gasmasks: For the Post-Apocalyptic Gentleman
And to this day, on darkest nyte
It can be seen, they tell
A Prynce of Rattes, in finery
Upon a horned bell.
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