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Who was the most evil person in history? There have been some real corkers in times gone and a rather depressing amount of them share the current timeline with us. Grant us your esteemed opinions concerning this most significance-accumulatingly important of all topics.

Do you mean actual evil or plain stupid but can quallify as some kind of evil?

VikingScott wrote:Do you mean actual evil or plain stupid but can quallify as some kind of evil?

Well I suppose if they're dumb and evil they're still evil.

Jesus.

His words and actions created numerous cults, rampant idiocy, belief in him and his teachings have been the cause of dozens, if not hundreds of conflicts costing thousands to millions of lives.

One dude started a huge wave of brainwashing and warfare for thousands of years with no sign of letting up, only becoming more extreme and more violent.

Couple of Monsters that I can think of :

The obvious choices :

Hitler
Stalin
Pol Pot
Torquemada

Marque du Sade was pretty messed up too

The one we have never found out about.

Heres my top 3 in not particular order, I have found a brief overview on them, it may help explain why they are my top 3:

-Ivan IV of Russia:
"Ivan IV of Russia, also know as Ivan the Terrible, was the Grand Duke of Muscovy from 1533 to 1547 and was the first ruler of Russia to assume the title of Tsar. In 1570, Ivan was under the belief that the elite of the city of Novgorod planned to defect to Poland, and led an army to stop them on January 2. Ivan’s soldiers built walls around the perimeter of the city in order to prevent the people of the city escaping. Between 500 and 1000 people were gathered every day by the troops, then tortured and killed in front of Ivan and his son. In 1581, Ivan beat his pregnant daughter-in-law for wearing immodest clothing, causing a miscarriage. His son, also named Ivan, upon learning of this, engaged in a heated argument with his father, which resulted in Ivan striking his son in the head with his pointed staff, causing his son’s (accidental) death."

-Emperor Hirohito of Japan:
"Hirohito was the Emporer of Japan from 1926 to 1989. In 1937, Japanese troops committed the war crime that is now known as the Rape of Nanking (the then Capital of China, now known as Nanjing). The duration of the massacre is not clearly defined, although the violence lasted well into the next six weeks, until early February 1938. During the occupation of Nanjing, the Japanese army committed numerous atrocities, such as rape, looting, arson and the execution of prisoners of war and civilians. A large number of women and children were also killed, as rape and murder became more widespread. The death toll is generally considered to be between 150,000 and 300,000."

-Josef Stalin:
"Stalin was General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union’s Central Committee from 1922 until his death in 1953. Under Stalin’s leadership, the Ukraine suffered from a famine (Holodomor) so great it is considered by many to be an act of genocide on the part of Stalin’s government. Estimates of the number of deaths range from 2.5 million to 10 million. The famine was caused by direct political and administrative decisions. In addition to the famine, Stalin ordered purges within the Soviet Union of any person deemed to be an enemy of the state. In total, estimates of the total number murdered under Stalins reign, range from 10 million to 60 million."

% of evil Pol Pot: wiped out 1/4 of the population of
Cambodia.

Evil by the Numbers: Chairman Mao: 50MM to 100MM
(no one is really sure)

Evil as a fashion statement: Dark Helmet









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Mattlov wrote:Jesus.

His words and actions created numerous cults, rampant idiocy, belief in him and his teachings have been the cause of dozens, if not hundreds of conflicts costing thousands to millions of lives.

One dude started a huge wave of brainwashing and warfare for thousands of years with no sign of letting up, only becoming more extreme and more violent.

Anybody who has cut another person's head off with a knife whilst they're still alive, broadcasting it live on the internet, jumps to the top of my list.

Flashman wrote:Anybody who has cut another person's head off with a knife whilst they're still alive, broadcasting it live on the internet, jumps to the top of my list.

Definite top 100.

Mattlov wrote:Jesus.

His words and actions created numerous cults, rampant idiocy, belief in him and his teachings have been the cause of dozens, if not hundreds of conflicts costing thousands to millions of lives.

One dude started a huge wave of brainwashing and warfare for thousands of years with no sign of letting up, only becoming more extreme and more violent.

Well by that logic, Mohammad is WAY more evil then Jesus. Im pretty sure it wasnt his intentions to cause all that, the guy was normally a pretty peaceful guy.



I think Hilter is a shoe in for most evil guy.....but thats almost to easy. Nero? That guy did some nasties. Henry the Eighth? I mean, he REALLY loved women

What kind of evil are we talking about again?

Vlad the Impaler was also a nice guy...

The guy that invented complicated math.

True Evil is subjective.
Fictional evil is more clearly defined......or is it.
Take for example the story of The Wizard of OZ....

Through a complex means involving a tornado and a house, Dorothy kills one "Wicked Witch of the East." The dead witch's sister, the so called "Wicked Witch of the West," arrives shortly after to claim the only portion of her sister left whole, the infamous Ruby Slippers. At this point, Glenda the "Good Witch of the North" arrives to contest the WWotW's claim on the shoes. Glenda trumps the WWotW by magically placing the shoes on Dorothy.
Glenda then sets Dorothy, a young girl unfamilier with OZ politics, on a path to the "Wizard of OZ".
Many adventures follow as Dorothy accumulates a few companions and attempts to avoid the WWotW.
To cut to the end... Dorothy Kills the WWotW by dousing her with water, her only known weakness. She then Debunks the Wizard as a fraud.
ONLY then does Glenda appear and tell dorothy how to use the Ruby Slippers to return to her real home in Kansas. Where she appears (in some versions) without the magic shoes.
Leaving Glenda as the only being in all of OZ with any magical powers and the Ruby Slippers>
Now... Who was the REAL evil witch?

The Guy who envented "Health" Food.

Soladrin wrote:Vlad the Impaler was also a nice guy...

Hell yea he was! Such a nice fella, the wife and I vacation in his castle all the time, just dont mind the smell

I second Soladrin here for ones that have not already been mentioned more than once. Come to think of it Vlad is here on dakka.....

Mattlov wrote:Jesus.

His words and actions created numerous cults, rampant idiocy, belief in him and his teachings have been the cause of dozens, if not hundreds of conflicts costing thousands to millions of lives.

One dude started a huge wave of brainwashing and warfare for thousands of years with no sign of letting up, only becoming more extreme and more violent.

Oh the ignorance.

Blast your eyes.

sA

Stephenie Meyer?

CadianXV wrote:Stephenie Meyer?

+1

Sherwood Schwartz!

Why? He brought the world the "Brady Bunch" in All it's various and sundry incarnations.
Note: He currently has a redo of Gilligan's Island in the works.

How's that for Evil?

BARNEY [Purple Dino].

More evidence against Mr. Schwartz.

He is listed as the Composer of the 2 most invasive Theme songs ever.... songs that will get stuck in your head (if you have ever heard them) just by reading the first few words...

"Just sit right back...."

"Heres a Story..."

Mattlov wrote:Jesus.

His words and actions created numerous cults, rampant idiocy, belief in him and his teachings have been the cause of dozens, if not hundreds of conflicts costing thousands to millions of lives.

One dude started a huge wave of brainwashing and warfare for thousands of years with no sign of letting up, only becoming more extreme and more violent.

Trollish...

Im an atheist, but you would find it hard to back that up in any sensible way.

Just because people started being idiotic after he died, doesnt mean you can blame him personally. While some scholars debate if he actually existed at all, there is little evidence to suggest he was a bad person himself.

Indeed, i find it ironic that Jesus apparently was a nice guy who talked about healing the sick and loving your fellow man, while Republican Bible belt Americans seem to hate the idea of universal healthcare and giving gay people their civil rights.

Seems a bit... polar opposite.

Spend a lot of time in mid-west America Mattyrm, eh?

A lot of it depends upon the time period, the standards of the culture they were from and the circumstances surrounding the events. What Vlad the impaler did was cetainly barbaric but not all that uncommon for his time.

For me mass murderers/war criminals are an obvious choice but are they any more or less evil than the subordinates who carried out thier orders?

Really it is an impossible question to answer effectively as it cant be based upon a simple count of how many people died and in which way. Also it is worth thinking about where their intentions evil? I am fairly sure that Hitler believed he was doing the right and good thing by trying to exterminate the Jews, if he had not lost the war is it possible that after a significant period of time people would have accepted this?

My vote would have to go with someone like Myra Hindley

Hindley? She was a pawn. Now Brady, on the other hand... I would quite cheerfully pull that man's fingernails out with a pair of pliers.

THIS bastard, is one seriously evil bastard:

squilverine wrote:Really it is an impossible question to answer effectively as it cant be based upon a simple count of how many people died and in which way. Also it is worth thinking about where their intentions evil? I am fairly sure that Hitler believed he was doing the right and good thing by trying to exterminate the Jews, if he had not lost the war is it possible that after a significant period of time people would have accepted this?

My vote would have to go with someone like Myra Hindley

Myra Hindley more evil than Hitler? You heard it here first!

Re: Jesus. Surely God's a better choice for this argument. He created the devil and therefore all evil. Some people like to let him off because he also created all the good things. Of course if he's beyond time and space then he can't be 'in history' (at least not exclusively) so we'll have to discount him.

Albatross wrote:Hindley? She was a pawn. Now Brady, on the other hand... I would quite cheerfully pull that man's fingernails out with a pair of pliers.

THIS bastard, is one seriously evil bastard:

I dont reconise the lad, who is he?

That, KingCracker, is one twisted fether who goes by the name of Fred West.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_West

I do "evil by number", so, how many they killed. In which case Mao wins.