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 Mr Morden wrote:
I have always been Steiner but may drop a few times with some of the other IS Houses to get the free Mechbays

Same ingame name?

Mine certainly is.

Been playing more lately as I short time for a vacation and my attention span is short bouncing me from game to game. I have a question. whats the point of picking a particular house to fight for in faction warfare? I chose Liao last night and spent all four games I played as the lone Liao guy in heavily mixed companies fighting preformed Clan Wolf companies(there are twelve of them thus they aren't binaries or trinaries.). We barely scratched these guys. It was really bloody annoying and not a lot of fun. I play for fun, not for super competitiveness.

I am going to start running Ravens and ECM mechs to try and support my allies but that will seriously impact my points. I noticed that the clan wolf guys are fielding massive amounts of ECM making it incredibly hard to target them with any kind of missiles. I am not going to say clan is OP, I do not think it is. I think they need to institute proper clan numbers however. 12 vs 10. There is no reason whatsoever they cant do this.

 keltikhoa wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
I have always been Steiner but may drop a few times with some of the other IS Houses to get the free Mechbays

Same ingame name?

Kyle Travis on MechWarrior

I have a question. whats the point of picking a particular house to fight for in faction warfare?

Its fun and fluffy - but more seriously - you get loyalty points and lots of nice things for achieving specific ranks in the various House / Clans...... 8 or 9 bad games will get you a free Mech bay for instance.

Col. Dash wrote:
spent all four games I played as the lone Liao guy in heavily mixed companies fighting preformed Clan Wolf companies(there are twelve of them thus they aren't binaries or trinaries.). We barely scratched these guys. It was really bloody annoying and not a lot of fun. I play for fun, not for super competitiveness.

I will only say this here because the forums on MWO site are just too toxic to try explaining anything rationally
A few tips for CW.

#1 The current version of CW is NOT pug friendly. You will have much more fun if you join a unit, even a causal one, and drop as a team. Most casual teams do not mind if you only have time for 1 or 2 games, as long as you are willing to wait for their current match to finish to pick you up. Also most will offer advice and "training" on good builds, strategies, and tactics, to improve your piloting skills.

#2 Learn the Que Info Pugging can be done in CW, but a better understanding of the Que Info tab on each planet will improve your general experience greatly, Please see tip #4 for why Clan vs IS is such a mixed bag. Look for planets that have numbers on them already (don't go to a 0/0 planet). When you select a planet you will be able to look at the Que Info tab and it shows a bar graph that looks something like this:
11
10
9
8
7
6
5
4
3
2 -
1 - - -
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 :EDIT cant make the spacing work... just imagine the dashes are over 3 and 6
What my example graph is telling you is there is 1 group of 6 pilots, 1 group of 3 pilots, and 2 groups of 1 pilot (solo ques). this totals 11 pilots and only needs 1 more pilot to launch a lobby. If you look at this graph before you hit attack you will have an idea of how long a wait you will have based on how many more pilots it needs to make a 12 pilot group. You will also know if you are going into a full pug fest (12 groups of 1 pilot) or a near 12man (1-11man group plus 1 solo)

#3 Attack, Your faction (you chose Liao) dictates who and where you are able to attack. As Liao you only have 2 options on attack, Davion and Marik. Since opening of CW the greater number of Marik and Liao playerbase has had a Cease Fire in effect. You are not likely to be able to attack Purple Birds. You CAN attack Yellow Menace and honestly that is where MOST of Liao's larger groups focus. Teams prefer to be the aggressor. No matter what faction, Clan, or House you are in, most teams prefer to be the aggressor. As a Solo pug player you are much more likely to join partial teams (6+ team members) when on an attack planet. Both because teams prefer to be aggressive and the "Attack Grab Bag" of solo pilots for attack planets is MUCH smaller.

#4 Defense, Like attack your faction dictates where you can defend. As Liao you only have 2 defenses of your own territory, against Marik (not going to be attacked) and Davion. You also have the option to defend any IS world under attack from Clans. This is why most IS pugs feel like they run into clan teams non stop. Every IS faction can defend vs Clans. When a clan team is formed (full 12 man or not) the "Call to Arms" goes out to EVERY IS pilot "Defence Grab Bag" to join the que and defend against this attack, not just the faction pilots that are under attack. So most people in hopes to find a fast game click on the defend and unless you are already in a group (TEAMS FTW) you are likely solo dropping with all the other solos that clicked on the defend button.

Hope this helps you a little.

That actually does make more sense explaining the que thing. Thanks.

What's the advantage to being in a clan?

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
What's the advantage to being in a clan?

You get to play the game how it's supposed to be played? Seriously though, playing this game with a group on teamspeak or something is just a far superior experience IMO.

 Soladrin wrote:

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
What's the advantage to being in a clan?

You get to play the game how it's supposed to be played? Seriously though, playing this game with a group on teamspeak or something is just a far superior experience IMO.

QFT! If you mean Clan as in a Unit. This game is really intended to be a social game so may as well make some friends while doing it.

If you are meaning Clan faction, Jade Falcon, Ghost bear, Smoke Jaguar, Wolf - it just means in CW you use Clan Mechs exclusively (IS houses use IS mechs exclusively)

Also note some Merc Units like Comstar Irregulars that Ovion and Soladrin belong to often switch sides so that their players get to use IS tech while on IS contract and Clan tech while on Clan contract.
While Loyalist units like Jade Falcon Prime the unit I belong to have permanent contracts with one faction, and I only get to use my IS mechs in non-CW matches.

 keltikhoa wrote:
Also note some Merc Units like Comstar Irregulars that Ovion and Soladrin belong to often switch sides so that their players get to use IS tech while on IS contract and Clan tech while on Clan contract.

We're red now.
We were blue last week.

Don't remember being green yet, but I liked it when we were cyan.

(I do actually know what we are - I miss being FRR, I actually want to career track that, but I'm a support mech in a merc core, I go where they pay me I'm told.)

 Ovion wrote:

 keltikhoa wrote:
Also note some Merc Units like Comstar Irregulars that Ovion and Soladrin belong to often switch sides so that their players get to use IS tech while on IS contract and Clan tech while on Clan contract.

We're red now.
We were blue last week.

Don't remember being green yet, but I liked it when we were cyan.

(I do actually know what we are - I miss being FRR, I actually want to career track that, but I'm a support mech in a merc core, I go where they pay me I'm told.)

I hear you, I miss FRR,

Lol my first intro to the BT universe (lore) was the Jade Phoenix Trilogy. It hooked me completely and I have been a Jade Falcon purist ever since lol. Also I am at faction rank 16 going on 17... those higher end faction rewards are SWEEEET.

Ugg pet peeve, calling a guild or corp a clan. If its fantasy its a guild, if its modern or sci fi its a corp or unit. Never understood the whole clan thing outside the BT clans or the Wu Tang.

I have started playing a Raven 3L for faction games and it does ok. Biggest problem I have had was managing buttons with diverse weapon systems. How are you guys managing mechs with 4 distinct weapon systems or do you just have high end mice with multiple programmable buttons? I have reduced my Raven to just medium pulse lasers and the Narc and TAG which I rarely get to use. I didn't find the SMR6s useful in faction warfare as we are usually too much on the move backwards getting curb-stomped by premade teams to want to get in effective range of the SRMs. With Narc I can fire and forget and move away, maybe with a quick laser volley. TAG just gives my position away and asks for an airstrike.

Col. Dash wrote:
Ugg pet peeve, calling a guild or corp a clan. If its fantasy its a guild, if its modern or sci fi its a corp or unit. Never understood the whole clan thing outside the BT clans or the Wu Tang.

I have started playing a Raven 3L for faction games and it does ok. Biggest problem I have had was managing buttons with diverse weapon systems. How are you guys managing mechs with 4 distinct weapon systems or do you just have high end mice with multiple programmable buttons? I have reduced my Raven to just medium pulse lasers and the Narc and TAG which I rarely get to use. I didn't find the SMR6s useful in faction warfare as we are usually too much on the move backwards getting curb-stomped by premade teams to want to get in effective range of the SRMs. With Narc I can fire and forget and move away, maybe with a quick laser volley. TAG just gives my position away and asks for an airstrike.

Well, probably because the word Clan has been used for over 2 decades to signify a group of players under the same banner. Counterstrike, diablo, battlefield, unreal tournament, all called clans.

SO depending on your clan/house loyalty you only get to use certain mechs in Community Warfare? Okay then. Doesn't matter to me. I only play standard games with Orgsbane. (Who i'm mildly surprised hasn't posted here yet)

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
SO depending on your clan/house loyalty you only get to use certain mechs in Community Warfare? Okay then. Doesn't matter to me. I only play standard games with Orgsbane. (Who i'm mildly surprised hasn't posted here yet)

Your chosen faction limits you to either IS or clan mechs during CW battles. You should at least try some of those CW fights for the mechbay and GXP rewards (see faction achievements). PUG vs PUG CW can be quite fun actually.

Rewards from CW? first I've heard of it? What kinda stuff we talking here?

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
Rewards from CW? first I've heard of it? What kinda stuff we talking here?

Loads of cool stuff - when you sign up for a House or Clan - you start getting LP for that faction - check out you achevements on the Faction section -.1st free Mech ba reward is 2nd tier I think about 2000 LP - even if you loose you usually get 200-400 LP Really high tiers get MCs - lots of MCs

re the Raven 3L - I run mine with 2 ERLL and TAG - I have 1 button for all three and one for TAG - I usually chain fire the ERLL - depending on the map

huh. So I can get Mechbays using this? cool. only have 3 mechs so I haven't hit my limit but still a good thing to know. Thanks!

While not online, I've recently got myself a set of TT mechs:


Figured I'd share.
I can list them all if needed.

EDIT: As Overlord Thraka's brother, I was logged in.

This was supposed to be a post by overlord thraka

This is the post that was SUPPOSED to be above this

Where'd you get em? I've been looking for those things forever! There are even some plastics! Where oh where did you get these?

I've had great success searching ebay for 'battletech lot'. If you're patient, and don't really care which mechs you're getting, you can keep the cost somewhere under $3 a mech in most cases.

Some fanatical collector has actually been putting up lots of 6 mechs for 99 cents for a month or so. I do not know how many they originally had in their collection, but it has been fascinating to watch.

Here's one featuring out of print plastics ending tomorrow- not mine, nor am I in any way associated with the seller.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Battletech-Miniatures-lot-of-14-Ral-Partha-1986-mechs-robots-/221704570316?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339e9f45cc

Went in on the Robotech kickstarter to get some nice Marauder etc BT models

Overlord Thraka wrote:Where'd you get em? I've been looking for those things forever! There are even some plastics! Where oh where did you get these?

You're in the US!

You know how hard it is to get this gak in the UK!!!

Step 1 - Buy the Introductory Box Set Here's an Amazon US link for you
(And Amazon UK if anyone wants it
Step 2 - If you want to be able to use the full rules, plus infantry, vehicles, aircraft, etc, you want the Battletech Total War book

Step 3 - In the US, you get the official mini producers of Battletech models, Iron Wind Metals.
(In the UK, we have to use Ral Partha Europe, which is also the best place in the UK to get Total Warfare atm, while it's on sale.)

Step 4 - Ebay.

I started with just the Introductory Box Set, then a few bits from Ral Partha, including Total Warfare a Locust and Urbanmech.
Then I got really lucky on ebay, with a job lot of 20 mechs, including 10 Unseen for £30. (Unseen normally go for £15-30+ each).
Recently ebayed the battle armour and Tarantula, making the year of my collection 3054.

I've listed all the mechs I have in the above picture, the ones from the Introductory Box Set are marked (IBS##), and the Unseen are (U)



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 Gitzbitah wrote:
I've had great success searching ebay for 'battletech lot'. If you're patient, and don't really care which mechs you're getting, you can keep the cost somewhere under $3 a mech in most cases.

Some fanatical collector has actually been putting up lots of 6 mechs for 99 cents for a month or so. I do not know how many they originally had in their collection, but it has been fascinating to watch.

Here's one featuring out of print plastics ending tomorrow- not mine, nor am I in any way associated with the seller.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Battletech-Miniatures-lot-of-14-Ral-Partha-1986-mechs-robots-/221704570316?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339e9f45cc

If they shipped to the UK, I would bid on that.

More Unseen, more Locust, a nice little collection.


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Through the magic of Daylight!, I have better pictures. xD


Labeled:

And for a giggle, my set up for playing:
On the end there, is my junker rig, for playing Win95/98/2000/XP games on, where emulation is either ineffective or difficult on my main rig.

In the corner is my fiancees computer, which will shortly be replacing the white monitor with a 20" one, and I'll probably replace the Junkers screen with the old white one.

That's funny, I am in the process of selling about 110 TT mechs to someone from Bartertown. Thrakka if that sale falls through I will PM you.

OK kewl. I"ve just never seen much on Ebay.

Col. I'll hold off buying anything until I hear from you on weather the sale went through or not. But I don't have too much to spend on this so I don't think I'd be able to purchase all of them at once


Back on the topic of MWO, what mech would be best to mount something like 6 AC2s?

I've been looking at the Daishi and the King Crab

Either is fine really.

Both are really solid 100T mechs, that can do what you want.

The KGC has quirks, anc the AC2s are all arm mounted, but pretty low slung overall.

The DWF has 4 torso, 2 arm, and is slightly higher, with the bonus of Clan Tech.

That all said, 6x AC2 is never a really effective build IMO.

Can't go wrong with the AC20 - much fun