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http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2010/04/40k-rumors-dark-eldar-whispers.html

Let it begin... Here's what we've been hearing from the voices in the wind regarding the Dark Eldar.

-Lots of poison weapons (close combat and ranged).
-Streamlined version of combat drugs.
-The army is very lethal on the turn of arrival.
-Expect lots of lance weapons.
-There is chatter of the game's first lance-melta weapons being in the list.
-Units will "power up" and gain abilities in some manner as they kill enemies.
-Warriors and Wytches are troops.
-Expect new units.
-Harlequins are in.

Posted by BigRed at BoLS. Take it for what it's worth. The Harlequins part makes me tingly; been hoping for that. The rest of it, nothing terribly new or surprising.

Woot?! I just want them to come out, mostly so my brother (and the internet) will shut up about his army.

whalemusic360 wrote:Woot?! I just want them to come out, mostly so my brother (and the internet) will shut up about his army.

+1

I'm all for the DE release, but we don't really need 50 DE 'news' posts. They'll be out when they're out, as far as I'm concerned.

Wow this is all kindas being buggy.

Skarboy wrote:http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2010/04/40k-rumors-dark-eldar-whispers.html

Let it begin... Here's what we've been hearing from the voices in the wind regarding the Dark Eldar.

-Lots of poison weapons (close combat and ranged).
-Streamlined version of combat drugs.
-The army is very lethal on the turn of arrival.
-Expect lots of lance weapons.
-There is chatter of the game's first lance-melta weapons being in the list.
-Units will "power up" and gain abilities in some manner as they kill enemies.
-Warriors and Wytches are troops.
-Expect new units.
-Harlequins are in.

Posted by BigRed at BoLS. Take it for what it's worth. The Harlequins part makes me tingly; been hoping for that. The rest of it, nothing terribly new or surprising.

Ok, I'm intrigued. When I got in to this my brother and we started with the SM Vs. DE box set. I felt bad for my brother, who played DE, because he always felt like he wouldn't have picked them as his first if he had known how they played. Now maybe we both can play a game against each other with our original armies.

I like the part about being very lethal on turn of arrival. This seems to fit them very well. Also the part about units powering up and gaining abilities as you kill could be very cool!

Lance-melta weapon...Interesting!

Harlequins are in...Glad they did that. I am thinking that maybe we will see more conversions for DE as Harlequins as a result.

I also want to know what has happened to units like Hellions and Mandrakes. Last I knew they were not a DE players first choice of units to take. There was a slight attempt to fix Mandrakes but that still just didn't improve them enough to change people's opinion.

ProtoClone wrote:Lance-melta weapon...Interesting!

Or total overkill, LOL.

Skarboy wrote:

ProtoClone wrote:Lance-melta weapon...Interesting!

Or total overkill, LOL.

GW would never make something that could be considered overkill!

I like the "Let it begin..." statement at the start of the post. Didn't rumours "begin" 8 years ago?

Well I hope we get Harlequins, and the deadly on the turn they arrive smells of scouting raiders!

Melta lances is a terrible idea... I don't want a broken codex, only one that has more that one viable option in each FoC slot...

I don't want a broken codex...

Too late for that, we've already got Codex Blood Angels.

Clthomps wrote:Melta lances is a terrible idea... I don't want a broken codex, only one that has more that one viable option in each FoC slot...

The trouble with options is that one of them can normally be identified as preferable. This tends to make it the most viable and the others not so much.

I agree about the melta lances though. It is a terrible idea and will therefore probably appear in the codex.

Clthomps wrote:Well I hope we get Harlequins, and the deadly on the turn they arrive smells of scouting raiders!

Melta lances is a terrible idea... I don't want a broken codex, only one that has more that one viable option in each FoC slot...

Agree totally. Mostly, I'm waiting with baited breath for the new Jes Goodwin models. I'd take the old codex with the new models if I had to choose. But to get a new codex that basically plays the same, but with some new options and viable builds, with all new gorgeous models? Yes, please!


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Flashman wrote:I agree about the melta lances though. It is a terrible idea and will therefore probably appear in the codex.

LOL, such faith in GW we all have! My question would be: what's the point? Lance and melta are variants of the same job, they don't need to be added together. I'm fine with some tweaks, such as AP1 lance or a melta weapon with longer range, but keep them distinct and PRICE THEM FAIRLY.

By fairly do you mean free on a 55pt fast open top skimmer with scout?

Clthomps wrote:By fairly do you mean free on a 55pt fast open top skimmer with scout?

ABSOLUTELY!

Clthomps wrote:By fairly do you mean free on a 55pt fast open top skimmer with scout?

I think more along the lines of 10 point lances for warriors and 20 point lances for warriors with jump packs.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Clthomps wrote:By fairly do you mean free on a 55pt fast open top skimmer with scout?

Either that or the base Raider will be cheaper and the gun upgrade will get you back to that points. Fast Razorbacks are 55 with TL Heavy Bolter, Fast Wartrukks are 35 with a big shoota, so 55 points for that Raider would not be totally unreasonable.

A lance+melta weapon isn't too bad on their own. It's all dependant on range, strength and availability. Add them to a bolt pistol stats and limit them to 0-1 in elite slots and it's not gonna raise an eyebrow. Stick them onto lascannon stats, and allow 2 in each troop unit, and it's cheesier than fondue

I think more importantly ... it all depends on what is going to be wielding the mighty lancy-melta-majig

Bear LaMorte wrote:I think more importantly ... it all depends on what is going to be wielding the mighty lancy-melta-majig

Everything.

Dun dun duuuuuuuuuh

Bear LaMorte wrote:I think more importantly ... it all depends on what is going to be wielding the mighty lancy-melta-majig

ON SECOND THOUGHT!!!! ... Legit DE players have been waiting for like a decade for an honest-to-god upgrade ... i hope the Lance-Melta combo kicks serious ... I HOPE IT IS AN UBER-DEATH CANNON THAT RIPS ASUNDER ALL THAT STANDS BEFORE IT!!!! ...
and maybe then the DE will have been compensated for their patience

It just looks "Oh, this thread again" by the moment :\

Just please get rid of the Man Elves in Man Thongs, the rest I can take.

Reecius wrote:Just please get rid of the Man Elves in Man Thongs, the rest I can take.

The worst part is that you know those Man Elves are stuffing their Man Thongs.

But banana hammocks are all the rage!

I don't see Harlequins being in there, really. The rest of that stuff sounds plausible enough.

Hahaha, I know I never go into battle without my leather kielbasa sling on! The sight of my white cheeks bouncing around is enough to strike fear into the bravest of enemies!


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@Brother SRM
Harlies in the fluff come from and work for all of the different types of Eldar. I think it totally fits.

Plus, Harlies in Raiders is just brutal, brutal, brutal.

What, you don't like having to painstakingly greenstuff pants onto entire squads of wyches? Frankly, any "man" who calls himself a "wych" deserves what he gets.

"Don't be afraid to use your nails, boys!"

Erasoketa wrote:It just looks "Oh, this thread again" by the moment :\

It's the thread that never dies.

Reecius wrote:Hahaha, I know I never go into battle without my leather kielbasa sling on! The sight of my white cheeks bouncing around is enough to strike fear into the bravest of enemies!


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@Brother SRM
Harlies in the fluff come from and work for all of the different types of Eldar. I think it totally fits.

Plus, Harlies in Raiders is just brutal, brutal, brutal.

Are you quite sure that expression is one of fear....?

Also, I agree about the fluff on the Harlequins. If I remember, the original WD fluff about them stated that they were performing troupes of mystical warriors who traveled among all Eldar to re-enact the Fall so that none would forget.

Reecius wrote:Hahaha, I know I never go into battle without my leather kielbasa sling on! The sight of my white cheeks bouncing around is enough to strike fear into the bravest of enemies!

Reece, you also say the following line:

"Kelly can be a guy's name, too"