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The Sanguinor, Exemplar of the Host is one of the newer blood angels models the looks just amazing. if you haven't seen him yet heres the url http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat400010a&prodId=prod550014a. The other day I went and got my new codex to start reading up before summer. After seeing how amazing this model looked I wanted to know more about him, but come to find out no one even in the codex knows. The Inquisition think he is just a manifestation of psychic energy. The Chapter council argue that he is the Primarch's nobler side. The Sanguinary Guard believe that he is there founder Azkaellon. I want to know what you think and why.

Sanguinius has returned to us!

Praise the Dark Gods! We get to kill him again!

haha I'm sorry, I couldn't help it.

Maybe he is a psychic manifestation of Sanguinius? Maybe his soul is trapped in the body of the Sanguinor?

Like the tootsie pops and how many licks it takes to get to the center, the world may never know

One of the more popular rumors is that is Azkaellon.

I think its a really horrible piece of fluff written by a guy who shouldn't be working on Codices.

He's the Deciever. That's why the BA and the Crons shook hands and walked away from each other

Besides, they're both gold and floaty... though the Deceiver lacks the Blood Nipples.

Xca|iber wrote:He's the Deciever. That's why the BA and the Crons shook hands and walked away from each other

Besides, they're both gold and floaty... though the Deceiver lacks the Blood Nipples.

lolololololol true true

Well, seeing as he always comes in just when he's needed, he must be some sort of tactical genius or somethin.. CREEEEEEED!!!

Cold you imagine Creed trying to fit in that nipple armor though? Dear god that would be horrific

He is a poor character/piece of fluff created by a "author" with a series case of oneupmanship.

If this is the way Codexes are to be written in the future, then I can see brinkmanship will become popular at Games Workshop.

IF this is the way they write codices? Cmon now, everyone knows that has been the way they do things for the last few codices for sure. Everyone since the IG dex came out has had something in it that makes you go "oh my god seriously?"

Well considering I've just got back into the game after stopping at the end of 2nd Edition I'm not privy to the recent past of Codexes, yet even I can spot terrible Codex creation.

Blair wrote:Well considering I've just got back into the game after stopping at the end of 2nd Edition I'm not privy to the recent past of Codexes, yet even I can spot terrible Codex creation.

We all kinda know that this is GW not being creative with alot of stuff, and it doesn't really matter to me, because I know that. I just wanted to know what other people thought about WHO he is, not about how GW sucks at writing. I mean I think that GW should let Black Library write the Codexes but thats another subject.

He's totally the Deciever

Xca|iber wrote:He's the Deciever. That's why the BA and the Crons shook hands and walked away from each other

Besides, they're both gold and floaty... though the Deceiver lacks the Blood Nipples.

So THAT explains it! :p

Chives wrote:

Blair wrote:Well considering I've just got back into the game after stopping at the end of 2nd Edition I'm not privy to the recent past of Codexes, yet even I can spot terrible Codex creation.

We all kinda know that this is GW not being creative with alot of stuff, and it doesn't really matter to me, because I know that. I just wanted to know what other people thought about WHO he is, not about how GW sucks at writing. I mean I think that GW should let Black Library write the Codexes but thats another subject.

And the Black Library has THAT much better of a track record when it comes to good writing? I'm looking at you James Swallow, inter alia.

Some of their stuff is good, but quite a bit makes anything in C:BA (or other GW "lapses") look halfway decent.

Valete,

JohnS

A perhaps telling part of the Sanguinor legend, although this is not known by many, is that he has never even once made an appearance on december 25/26th for 40.000 straight years.

I guess when you have nothing to do 363 days of the year you eventually find other ways to keep yourself busy

TBD wrote:A perhaps telling part of the Sanguinor legend, although this is not known by many, is that he has never even once made an appearance on december 25/26th for 40.000 straight years.

I guess when you have nothing to do 363 days of the year you eventually find other ways to keep yourself busy

0.o

If I played BA I would totally make a SANTAguinor. That would be awesome.

Actually, the Sanguinor being the Deceiver would make sense. He comes at the EXACT perfect time every time(something only a tactical genius would know.... or maybe a god), nobody knows who he really is...

not to mention the 'crons and angels working together at one point. Only the Deceiver could have caused that to happy. No member of the Astartes would EVER work with the Necrons, even if to defeat another great threat

Ack!

Enough with the bad jokes about Nipple Armor already!

ShadowAngel159 wrote:

Maybe he is a psychic manifestation of Sanguinius?

THIS is probably closer to the truth...

Sorry but when did the Blood Angels help out the Crons? I don't remember this, if anyone can help thanks.

I reckon he's an enraged True blood fan trying to show how much better that series is compared to the rest of his Twilight-loving brothers.

Seriously, though, my real guess is he's a manifestation of Sanguinius.

Deus Ex Machina incarnate.

He is either Cypher with a bad dye job or a member of Legion of the Damned who suffered a concussion saving the Daemon Spawn of the emperors favorite Daughter and chapter founder of the BA.

All joking aside I think he is just an excuse to make a friggin sweet looking fig and a stepping stone to more extreme HQ choices for future codex and possibly reviving the emperor via taking a cue from white wolf 2nd ed.

My vote's for a "psychic manifestation." The writers of the new codex were drawing really heavily on Christian mythology, which I actually enjoy. Of course, they've grimdarked (that's right it's a verb now) the crap out of it. The Emperor's the Father, Sanguinus was the Son, and the Sanguinor is the Holy Spirit/Ghost. The writers took it a little too literally, though.

I guess the Sanguinor's some kind of psychic projection of the Emperor or Sanguinus or both (depends how you feel about the filioque ) If Sanguinus is involved, it's probably based on the genetic memories each Blood Angel has.

One more possibility, though I don't know if I want to give the writers that much credit. A couple places (i.e. Exodus 14) in the Old Testament talk about an "angel of God" that leads His armies in battle. I suppose the Sanguinor could be a reference to that...although then it's still probably explained in 40k terms as a psychic projection of the Emperor.

I'll tell you what the sanguinor is.... an example of why they shouldn't let idiots write codex.

Hesperus wrote:My vote's for a "psychic manifestation." The writers of the new codex were drawing really heavily on Christian mythology, which I actually enjoy. Of course, they've grimdarked (that's right it's a verb now) the crap out of it. The Emperor's the Father, Sanguinus was the Son, and the Sanguinor is the Holy Spirit/Ghost. The writers took it a little too literally, though.

I guess the Sanguinor's some kind of psychic projection of the Emperor or Sanguinus or both (depends how you feel about the filioque ) If Sanguinus is involved, it's probably based on the genetic memories each Blood Angel has.

One more possibility, though I don't know if I want to give the writers that much credit. A couple places (i.e. Exodus 14) in the Old Testament talk about an "angel of God" that leads His armies in battle. I suppose the Sanguinor could be a reference to that...although then it's still probably explained in 40k terms as a psychic projection of the Emperor.

Haha i like this! Is abaddon the devil or the antichrist?

Honersstodnt wrote:I'll tell you what the sanguinor is.... an example of why they shouldn't let idiots write codex.

As much as it is rather mean spirited, it is rather funny... and possibly true!

I'm not sure Abaddon has a direct correlate. I also might be constructively interpreting the fluff (aka making crap up), because I doubt the writers of the Chaos fluff had Christianity as much in mind. However, Horus seems kind of like Cain, so Abaddon (and the Black Legion as a whole) might just stand for Cain's descendants, which in many traditions became inhuman monsters. The Black Legion was originally called the Sons of Horus, after all...

We will call him Tremere and From this point on all we can do is call Horus Salot and pray it works out the same way

If these marine codicies keep the same trend, my friend thinks my Templars will just get The Emperor instead of the The Emperor's Champion.

I'm starting to believe him.

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