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Are there any blanks aligned with Chaos?

Blanks?

TBD wrote:Blanks?

Soulless people who have negative psy field which is painful to psykers and non-psykers.
I think that blanks are uncorruptible.

Ivan is correct, and furthermore, I doubt Chaos would want to even TRY to lure in someone whose very essence is the bane of demons and magic.

I suppose a particularly clever Chaos-worshipper might manipulate one against his enemies...

Psychic blanks are the opposite of chaos.

So why should chaos be a mirror of the imperium (just with spikes) ?

Usually, such blanks are near invisible to creatures of the warp. Again, why should anything relying on souls and psi have any interest in the soulless and anti-psi?

Additionally its possible that the pariah gene ( what makes humans into blanks ) is engineered by the C'tan.
The C'tan are highly interested in cutting the "warp" from "realspace" off.
Blanks, one of the tools to achieve this IMO, aren't likely to be part of chaos then.

Yes, but there is nothing stopping them to join Chaos of their own volition and for their own personal gain...That they might not last 5 seconds when a daemon realizes what they are, that's a whole different story

you mean the deamon wouldn't last 5 seconds


Blanks are soulless so very undesirable for warp god use.

think of a "Soul scale" like this.


Super souls: are highly conductive to warp energys and deamons: examples, Psykers, Navigators, Eldar.

Sensitive souls: are conductive, but are little more then a 6th sense, no active powers: Mystics, fortune tellers, Orks(the WAAAAGH is a psychic phenomina)

Normal souls: these are souls that are not able to alter warp energy, but can be mutated by it: examples: 95% of humans.

Blunt souls: souls that do exist, but barely so. almost no signiture in the warp, examples: most non sentient animal life, T'au.

Soulless: a life form with negative warp energy. Void where soul should be absorbs warp energy, weakening any psychic construct or creature. examples: carriers of the Pariah gene.




if every living creature were to gain the pariah gene it is likely that the gods of chaos would be destroyed(or at least unable to enter/affect the Milky Way Galaxy)

I still see nothing stopping chaos forces from using blanks to assassinate loyalist psykers/etc. Just as the loyalists often use their blanks. They aren't having them reproduce or using cloning on them so I don't think there is a large risk of them spreading the pariah gene(at least on the chaos side).

@Grey Templar: From the fluff I've read, there's one more between Blunts and Soulless, namely true blanks; humans with zero psychic energy and no presence in the warp. They aren't as harmful to psykers and the psi-sensitive as pariahs, etc, but are able to simply block out warp energy.

you mean like whats his name from Ravonor?

i guess that would be another catagory.

Lexicanum (http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Blank) differentiates between Pariahs and Blanks. Pariahs being the opposite of chaos and causing anguish or death to psykers and daemons. And blanks being simply non-existent in the warp and blocking out any nearby psychic or chaotic powers.

Neither a blank nor pariah could ever get chaotic powers by allying with a warp entiity, but if they wish to fight for one or are coerced, I guess that could happen.

They could never be tainted by chaos but could work for chaos lord for personal reasons, they won't worship chaos.

and those reasons would likely be monatary as any chaosy gifts wouldn't work.

But imagine the damage a blank could do if they did work for Chaos.

You mean like take a single bolter round to the head? Just because they're immune to psychic powers doesn't mean they become invincible.

Even more so because they can't really defend themselves against anything except pychic powers.

they are as fragile as normal humans in that regard.

Fiend wrote:Lexicanum (http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Blank) differentiates between Pariahs and Blanks. Pariahs being the opposite of chaos and causing anguish or death to psykers and daemons. And blanks being simply non-existent in the warp and blocking out any nearby psychic or chaotic powers.

Neither a blank nor pariah could ever get chaotic powers by allying with a warp entiity, but if they wish to fight for one or are coerced, I guess that could happen.

In Ciaphas Cain, a blank causes a Psyker to scream and pass out.

Henners91 wrote:

Fiend wrote:Lexicanum (http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Blank) differentiates between Pariahs and Blanks. Pariahs being the opposite of chaos and causing anguish or death to psykers and daemons. And blanks being simply non-existent in the warp and blocking out any nearby psychic or chaotic powers.

Neither a blank nor pariah could ever get chaotic powers by allying with a warp entiity, but if they wish to fight for one or are coerced, I guess that could happen.

In Ciaphas Cain, a blank causes a Psyker to scream and pass out.

Interesting contradiction, especially because Lexicanum cited Ciaphus Cain. I guess the distinction has always been vague though. I see it as a sort of spectrum from no warp presense to a warp damaging presense. Either way, I'm sure Chaos forces would be unlikely to work with either blanks or pariahs, but it is possible.

A blank could theoretically be useful to a Chaos Lord or other higher up for protection against the machinations of their rivals and underlings within the warp. Or the =I=, who use psykers a lot.

But yeah, not much reason - though it might make for an interesting story.

aka_tizz wrote:Yes, but there is nothing stopping them to join Chaos of their own volition and for their own personal gain...That they might not last 5 seconds when a daemon realizes what they are, that's a whole different story

daemons hate blanks because they can't get near them and they lose a lot of power when they get near them so they would have to shoot at him or something

I'd imagine Blanks would have difficulty joining any organization because their lack of psychic activity would make people uncomfortable around them. I like to think that Jurgen's awful body odour and lack of imagination both have their source in Jurgen's blankness, meaning that he never had much opportunity to develop good hygiene or social graces.

In case a Blank was invited to an evening down at the local cult's song-and-sacrifice the presiding magister would probably not notice who was disrupting the efficacy of the ceremony and the cult would eventually disband for lack of anything happening beyond the thrill of being in a secret society.

purplefood wrote:

aka_tizz wrote:Yes, but there is nothing stopping them to join Chaos of their own volition and for their own personal gain...That they might not last 5 seconds when a daemon realizes what they are, that's a whole different story

daemons hate blanks because they can't get near them and they lose a lot of power when they get near them so they would have to shoot at him or something

Well, that's exactly why i said a daemon would kill a blank on sight

Nurglitch wrote:I'd imagine Blanks would have difficulty joining any organization because their lack of psychic activity would make people uncomfortable around them. I like to think that Jurgen's awful body odour and lack of imagination both have their source in Jurgen's blankness, meaning that he never had much opportunity to develop good hygiene or social graces.

Ya, that's why Blanks are also called Pariahs.

Blanks aren't Pariahs.

Nurglitch wrote:Blanks aren't Pariahs.

um, yes they are.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

Nurglitch wrote:Blanks aren't Pariahs.

um, yes they are.

Citation required.

Nurglitch wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

Nurglitch wrote:Blanks aren't Pariahs.

um, yes they are.

Citation required.

Alright; the actual Necron unit "Pariahs" are "blanks". That's why necrons go around harvesting humans. About every 1 in a million (possibly billion) humans has the Pariah birth defect. They are born without a soul and so are a an anathema to the warp. The only thing necrons "fear" for lack of a better term is the Warp. They are one of the only species to have superluminal non-warp travel. They take the pariahs and turn them into "Pariahs" their elite anti-psyker anti-warp troops. That's why they're called that: Pariahs....

And you're getting all this from where, exactly? Citation required.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Blank

Check out this link. It should explain the difference between Pariahs and Blanks.

I'm asking someone to cite the source material, the stuff published by GW, rather than fan-fiction.