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Mmmpi wrote: Still, they made their goal, plus a few unlocks so yay?
Their goal was $6,800 USD, and are still under $10k USD after several days of funding. Not sure the bar could have been set much lower.
Well, AFAIK they are trying to fund a small number of simple resin and metal mould, so it's not really like they need all that much money.
Probably all they'd need would be a small metal mold to cast bases, the rest should go to the costs of silicone and resin required. In all likelihood DP9 probably could have done this the regular way (monthly releases), but this should let them release all of it at once and generate more buzz for the new rules.
What game is less complex, Heavy Gear blitz, or Lighting strike 2nd edition? Id only use the gears is lighting strike, not anything else
I have HGB new plastic 2 player starter and its been fun on the surface. Just now getting into the deeper rules like Forward Obs and the massive headache that is.
Also any word when Heavy Gear Blitz will be converting more of the packs of gears to plastic? Or are starters/big gears/tanks only going to be plastic? Id like to buy more squads, but using that metal before was horrid.
From what I've playtested, the Heavy Gear rules have become somewhat less complex with each edition, so the nuBlitz Quickstart rules in your starter set are the least complex set of rules for HG.
If you want to dial complexity back big time, then you would look at my KOG light homebrew, specifically created to play with HG minis.
Right now, the Pod has their hands full with Jovian Wars, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them revisit HG plastics in a year or two.
ncshooter426 wrote: So -- I lost track of HG over the years, where does the current rulebook stand?
The new plastic armies are a nice deal it seems, I still got tons of the old metal (and some RAFM ones) Nucol/north/south stuff
If you go to heir official site, there is a link you can click to go download the newest living rulebook.
I bought the plastic 2 player, and have since invested a good 300 into filling out north and south to 300 points+ A buddy even bought in buying the 2 player and using it to build a black talon force
ncshooter426 wrote: So -- I lost track of HG over the years, where does the current rulebook stand?
The new plastic armies are a nice deal it seems, I still got tons of the old metal (and some RAFM ones) Nucol/north/south stuff
It's somewhat simpler than Blitz, which was somewhat simpler than Tactical, but still not smooth and modern. It is (should be) freely downloadable, but I'm not sure the Pod is doing much with it lately. As above, there is at least 1 fan ruleset out there. *toot*
Supposedly, the Pod is looking into the next big thing, which one presumes will bring NuCoal and others into plastic, along with a further tweak to make PRDF the best of the best of the best.
As it is, the game as the newest version of blitz it pretty easy and not to complicated for picking it up and doing some anime robot battles.
Where it gets odd is indirect, electronic warfare, a kinda goofy cover system
Ive played about 10 games and we are really trying to get into the weeds of all the unit types and electro warfare and its not the easiest thing. Also, pherhaps its me but the solid cover cover heavy cover etc system is a little odd and confusing.
But I do like the game. I don't know how much more I will expand on my current forces both at 300 points. I bought a few metals to fill out holes, but god do I hate the metals. Rather wait for plastics or buy more vehicles.
2017/06/19 04:52:53
Subject: Re:[Heavy Gear] General Discussion Thread
There is apparently a 2017 Kickstarter in the works.
The Heavy Gear Blitz 2017 Kickstarter to make plastic miniatures for the Peace River, NuCoal, and Utopia faction core models is now set for a mid-September launch. We had hoped to be ready for a July launch, but our 3d modelers are still working on the models for the NuCoal and Utopia. Plus with Gen Con in August and all the work that entails, we think its best to wait until after its out of the way.
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Ahtman wrote: There is apparently a 2017 Kickstarter in the works.
The Heavy Gear Blitz 2017 Kickstarter to make plastic miniatures for the Peace River, NuCoal, and Utopia faction core models is now set for a mid-September launch. We had hoped to be ready for a July launch, but our 3d modelers are still working on the models for the NuCoal and Utopia. Plus with Gen Con in August and all the work that entails, we think its best to wait until after its out of the way.
Yep! Myself and a few locals are excited about this news.
2017/06/26 17:29:46
Subject: Re:[Heavy Gear] General Discussion Thread
So how hard is it to run/manage a Kickstarter? You make some 3d-mock ups in whatever program ahead of time. Only need a couple of the core models for the first part. Write a paragraph or two about how much the game rocks, and needs the support of the players. Throw in a realistic, attainable goal, and then a couple sentences about manufacturing issues, shipping delays, etc. etc. Make some throw away award levels (Free patches! Free dice! extra models!), and make a few more 3d renders as future rewards. Start the Kickstarter. You have 30 days. Pop in every once in a while, say thanks! Give words of encouragement, and as rewards are hit, drop the rewards you've already planned out.
What DP9 wants to do is drop the Kickstarter what, two weeks after Gencon? LOL Unless they have a booth at Gencon and can actually show off some preproduction models, this KS won't go over all that well. Granted, not every gamer makes it to Gencon, but if you are trying to hype up a Kickstarter, what better place then Gencon?
I'm not sure I understand what the delay is in starting the KS. Jovian Wars is well along in development, and they posted screen shots of preproduction models for the new KS, so...? Why wait?
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2017/06/26 21:05:47
Subject: Re:[Heavy Gear] General Discussion Thread
What is the original backstory fluff (& what books is it found in) for NuCoal and it's associated city-states/locales?
- Was there ever a reason given for the Humanist Alliance to have chosen to collaborate with NuCoal over Peace River other than ''because we said so dammit, so get over it or STFU''?
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2017/06/26 21:57:03
Subject: Re:[Heavy Gear] General Discussion Thread
Tamwulf wrote: So how hard is it to run/manage a Kickstarter? You make some 3d-mock ups in whatever program ahead of time. Only need a couple of the core models for the first part. Write a paragraph or two about how much the game rocks, and needs the support of the players. Throw in a realistic, attainable goal, and then a couple sentences about manufacturing issues, shipping delays, etc. etc. Make some throw away award levels (Free patches! Free dice! extra models!), and make a few more 3d renders as future rewards. Start the Kickstarter. You have 30 days. Pop in every once in a while, say thanks! Give words of encouragement, and as rewards are hit, drop the rewards you've already planned out.
What DP9 wants to do is drop the Kickstarter what, two weeks after Gencon? LOL Unless they have a booth at Gencon and can actually show off some preproduction models, this KS won't go over all that well. Granted, not every gamer makes it to Gencon, but if you are trying to hype up a Kickstarter, what better place then Gencon?
I'm not sure I understand what the delay is in starting the KS. Jovian Wars is well along in development, and they posted screen shots of preproduction models for the new KS, so...? Why wait?
I agree they should definitely wait longer. Right after everyone has spent their hobby money at Gencon isn't the right time. Personally I'd go for an October kickoff, so they don't compete with people buying Christmas gifts either.
In addition, now that they have some of the kinks work out from the last KS, maybe this one will get done completely, and on time. And with fewer errors.
2017/06/27 06:39:19
Subject: Re:[Heavy Gear] General Discussion Thread
Smilodon_UP wrote: What is the original backstory fluff (& what books is it found in) for NuCoal and it's associated city-states/locales?
- Was there ever a reason given for the Humanist Alliance to have chosen to collaborate with NuCoal over Peace River other than ''because we said so dammit, so get over it or STFU''?
I'm not sure if the first question is completely serious, given I've had a lot of obscure setting conversations with you, but just in case :
The original fluff for the NuCoal was in the first edition books "Life on Terra Nova" and "Into the Badlands", mainly. That got mostly ported to the 2nd edition core rulebook and the 2nd LoTN book.
As to the second question... well, there was a joint program between Jan Mayen and the HA regarding GREL reproduction, the result of which were the twins. But other than that... no, not really (And it's not like Jan Mayen was a part of the NuCoal, either, so...). Even with the virus, the war and everything else, a massive, secret migration towards NuCoal territory through thousands of miles of desert is... kind of a stretch ^^. Just going by simple physical distance, Peace River is at like, half the distance away, and you wouldn't need to cross ginormous mountain ranges to get there.
As to any DP9KS... heh, right. They've made evidently clear that they don't want me (they might want my money, though), so Robert can kindly go feth himself.
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2017/07/03 15:05:28
Subject: Re:[Heavy Gear] General Discussion Thread
Ya know, I'm looking at the 3D renders of the new Skirmisher and... I just don't like it. It looks too blocky? Too thin? The pose just looks off... like the lower legs come out of the knees at a forward angle, meaning the lower legs are not directly under the body, but in front of the body? The front on view makes the model look like a box. Maybe if they changed the shoulders a bit- less squared off, 90 angles? Again, they look like boxes with rectangles coming out of the bottom.
I'm guessing it'll be cancelled long before the stated initial funding goal (let alone what might be the higher real expectation/goal). Yesterday was a net negative daily funding total and today so far is only positive by one pledge and it never bodes well to stall before funding (or even after minimally/moderately funding). It appears that the plastics and new rules didn't energize the playerbase as expected. That said.. I'd expect this kickstarter to be naturally lower as the most popular factions (Polar and CEF) were covered the first time around. Utopia (and Paxton and Nucoal players) may be vocal but definitely are a minority within the niche that is HG and I'd expect a lower funding total even if DP9 did everything right.
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We Munch for Macragge! FOR THE EMPRUH! Cheesesticks and Humus!
I like that they have posted a whopping 20 SGs out to $150k, while not even funded to $50k because they're leading with the ugly Utopia designs. Plus, the plastics they actually delivered were far worse than the metals and renders that they showed during the KS campaign.
Does anybody know whether the game is even selling in stores to justify new army expansions?
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