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I have seen a ton of topics the last couple weeks of people telling others they should not play MEQ's because too many people do. I honestly would like to know which armies you would like people to play, or would be considered a better choice? MEQ's tosses out most of the forces in the game, including Imperial Guard since I know they get loads of bandwagon hate.

In the wake of the new BA bandwagon, what do you recommend? As far as I see it, these are the only other choices

Eldar
Dark Eldar
Tau
Necron
Tyranid

Imperial guard aren't MEQ.
They are GEQ.

VikingScott wrote:Imperial guard aren't MEQ.
They are GEQ.

Yes, I am quite aware, I was simply saying that the desire for less MEQ's included the desire for less IG right along side it.

Sorry, didn't pick up on that.

VikingScott wrote:Sorry, didn't pick up on that.

I should have made it clearer than I originally did.

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Everyone will be jumping on the Dark Eldar bandraider soon

orks would be an excellent choice - a box full of mad green fun!

It isn't so much that people don't want others toplay MEQs, but that they want them to play non-Imperial forces.

Unfortunately, the Imperial armies are more popular, and get revisions a little more frequently than Xenos forces, or so the recent trend has been.

Personally, if I were to choose a non-Imperial force to play, it'd be Necrons.

Tau

I'd say Necrons, but they're MEQ too with their warrior T4 and 3+ saves. Still no one playing Necrons gets any hate. All they get is pity. Of course when the new codex drops they'll be hated more than anyone else.

I have zero interest in

Eldar
Dark Eldar
Orks

and only very passing interest in

Tyranids
Tau

I was honestly very interested in necrons. I didn't do enough research before I spent a huge wad of money after buying the starter and went with space marines. I wish I had spent some time learning the game and the lore before blindly spending hundreds of dollars.

The only thing stopping me from necrons is the air around here that they are a pretty terrible force in this edition, and cannot compete very well with their few weapon choices and lack of battlegear.


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one benefit to necrons I would assume would be that since there is very little choice there would also be very little cost in getting a fully decked out army.

I don't mind fighting MEQs as long as I'm not playing the same codex as they are. In other words, Chaos Marines vs. Space Marines is fine, as there's enough of a difference there. Codex Marines vs. codex Marines is boring though. I like fighting most other armies just fine, with the exception of Necrons. They're boring nomatter who I fight them with.

I have no objection to playing MEQ. Most MEQ armies (mostly marines) are yawntastic and easy to brutalize with far superior greenskins.

I DO object to having every game against Marines. If I play in an RTT and all three opponents are marines....I'll probably win, but it won't be a ton of fun. Sick and tired of everyone and their mother playing marines.

Orks are undoubtedly the most potent army in all of 40k; not sure why more people don't play them and join the Green Kroosade!

Brother SRM wrote:I don't mind fighting MEQs as long as I'm not playing the same codex as they are. In other words, Chaos Marines vs. Space Marines is fine, as there's enough of a difference there. Codex Marines vs. codex Marines is boring though. I like fighting most other armies just fine, with the exception of Necrons. They're boring nomatter who I fight them with.

This man speaks the truth.

I think it's just association. Kids tend to play Marines, so if I hear someone is starting a MEQ army unconsciously I assume they too are a kid. I don't know why advising them to start a different army will help, as though starting an Ork army will magically make you older than if you'd started a MEQ army.

That and because half the armies are MEQ and it's boring when all your opponents are the same. Plus, Marine armies get updates more often because they're popular, and they become more popular because they get more updates, and they get more updates because they're popular, etc. I'm paranoid that one day some bean-counter at GW will decide that the non-Marine armies cost almost as much to support while having fewer players, and cut them out of the game. They weren't selling as well because GW didn't update some of them for a decade or more! If every army was updated as often as the Space Marines I honestly believe we'd see an equal number of players for each army.

Don't think anyone was suggesting that orks would make for a more mature player.
It was just an alternative to starting with the ubiquitous MEQ's

It will help because there will be one fewer player with a MEQ army

Try playing Dark Angels or Templars, then your having fun. Too bad I had to like the DA fluff better than any other chapter's...

I say play whatever you want. I started with Eldar (Ulthwe) and then decided I loved DA fluff. Now I am getting back into Eldar (Biel-Tan) but will still mainly use DA.

I find that having an MEQ army is fine if you have a non-MEQ army as well. It makes you more interesting as an opponent if you have 2 very different armies, rather than Ultramarines and Imperial Fists, which are very similar, and feel about the same to fight.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Don't think anyone was suggesting that orks would make for a more mature player.
It was just an alternative to starting with the ubiquitous MEQ's

It will help because there will be one fewer player with a MEQ army

I wasn't suggesting anyone else had said that, I was picking at my subconscious' own falty logic.

I've got plenty enough Guard, Nid & Ork players locally. Plus Eldar, Tau & Necrons. About the only thing we don't have right now is a Daemons player, so I guess it'd be nice if someone started Daemons.

JohnHwangDD wrote:I've got plenty enough Guard, Nid & Ork players locally. Plus Eldar, Tau & Necrons. About the only thing we don't have right now is a Daemons player, so I guess it'd be nice if someone started Daemons.

That did not look right, sitting next to a picture of a nun, even if she is half exposed.


I think it's the facts that A) everyone and their mothers play MEQ's, B) MEQ's get the most love, so everyone (including me) is annoyed by that, we want the GW love too, ya know...., and C) MEQ's are good at everything, and as such they basically easily represent a 300 feel, where it's badasses holding out against millions of soldiers (or nids, orks, what have you).

The reason I play as Chaos Space Marines is mostly becuase I played WHFB before 40k, and Chaos was my army. The switch just seemed natural.

Dark Eldar! we are evil and we have cake!

Beg pardon Rube, my bad.

I just wish I had read a bit more before jumping in credit card over limit Then I would have at least started with a more centralized MEQ choice than vanilla

Clthomps wrote:Dark Eldar! we are evil and we have cake!

Haha!!!

And once you take a bite of the cake, you realize that its actually narcotic laced fiberclass shreddings baked in blood, and the drugs stimulate the pain sensors in your brain, causing your shredded and bleeding gums to shooting unimaginable pain signals to your brain to elicit screams of despairing anguish and torment....

And that tasty symphony is the real treat; the cake is a lie!

Arschbombe wrote:Tau

I'd say Necrons, but they're MEQ too with their warrior T4 and 3+ saves. Still no one playing Necrons gets any hate. All they get is pity. Of course when the new codex drops they'll be hated more than anyone else.

Then the day will be mine!!!

I prefer all Xenos armies over marines. I really like Orks and Eldar, and Dark eldar will be interesting to see once they get their updates. I'll prob jump on the Dark Eldar wagon. Thing is though I've always liked Dark Eldar...I've been waiting for this update for 6 years. I always wanted to collect them, but for the past 3 years all I've heard from people is "don't bother collecting them, as they are getting new models and book next year!" that was 3 years ago or more at this point. So needless to say, I'm keeping occupied with other armies for now.

Personally I think Orks and Eldar (plus DE) are the only interesting Xenos armies anyway. Necrons I find have terrible fluff, and for me, i really need to get into fluff to enjoy an army. Tau fluff is interesting, but not my style. Nid's dont really have fluff, as there are no individuals in their forces due to hive mind setting. At least with Eldar and Orks there is alot of backround info and plenty of ideas for your forces to be based off. And for non-xenos armies, i think CSM are an awesome force. Great fluff, alot of variations of forces you can play as well!

So really, all im trying to say is serve any force aside from the emperor. His near-dead husk sitting on the golden throne should have been burned a long time ago.

Unfortunately the only non-Imperial force that interests me are Chaos... Eldar strike me as hard and not fun to model, like their dark brethren, Tau are just shooty like my Guard, 'Nids would be another horde like me guard again, Orks are too common and Necrons... absolutely no character to them whatsoever.

Henners91 wrote:Unfortunately the only non-Imperial force that interests me are Chaos... Eldar strike me as hard and not fun to model, like their dark brethren, Tau are just shooty like my Guard, 'Nids would be another horde like me guard again, Orks are too common and Necrons... absolutely no character to them whatsoever.

To be fair to the nids though, You could field a Zilla list.

That's true, but it's pricey and again just doesn't interest me... If I were to play the armies I'd want it to be like the fluff and really 'Nids should be a ton of MCs with a huuuuuge horde of Gaunts I'd feel cheap if I didn't do 'em justice.

You speaketh the truth. Nothing would be better than millions of Gaunts running forward supported by huge creatures.