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Decrepit Dakkanaut






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O.C. mother shoots dog after it attacks her 6-year-old daughter
May 19, 2010 | 3:18 pm

Home in Lake Forest where dog attack occurred.A Lake Forest woman shot a dog after it attacked her children outside their home Wednesday, authorities said.

Two of the woman’s daughters, ages 3 and 6, were walking to a neighbor’s house on a quiet cul de sac late Wednesday morning when a dog, thought to be a boxer or a pit bull mix, sprang at the 6-year-old, according to Orange County sheriff's spokesman Jim Amormino.

The woman, holding her 1-year-old daughter and accompanied by her 14-year-old son, was drawn from the house by the children’s screams. Outside, they found the dog on top of the girl, furiously biting her.

A neighbor tried to get the dog off the girl by spraying it with Windex, Amormino said. When that didn’t work, the 14-year-old leaped at the dog, punching it until it let the child free.

The woman scooped up her daughters and ran to her house, Amormino said, but the dog chased them, at one point snapping at the 1-year-old's pant legs. The family made it safely inside, but the dog stayed on the porch outside, growling.

The woman tried to scare it away by yelling and stomping. When it wouldn’t leave, she got a 9-millimeter Glock from inside the house and shot it once in the neck, Amormino said.

Bleeding, the dog staggered over to the sidewalk and eventually lay down between two homes, where deputies later cornered it, Amormino said. The dog was taken to a local veterinarian's office and survived, Amormino said. Sheriff’s deputies were looking for the owner.

Neighbors said that they recognized the dog and that it had exhibited violent behavior in the past.

The 6-year-old was treated by paramedics for six or seven bites to her face, leg, arm and shoulder, Amormino said. Her parents planned to take her to their family physician for further treatment, he said.


In Cali, moms are soft - if this were Texas, the mom would'a emptied the clip...

   
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Actually, guns are for sissies. My great grandmother was from Texas. In her 80's she killed rattlesnakes with hoes and similar farming implements.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut






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Well, a mere 9mm is kinda small time. It'd be nice if she pulled out a pump-action 12-gauge and just turned the damn thing into spaghetti sauce...

   
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I was thinking more of a .50 Deagle. Although the recoil/cleanup would make it impractical. Still, dog feths with little kids, dog needs to be stopped.

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I fail to see how killing the creature with a single shot is a sign of weakness. Empyting the clip to get a job done shows a lack of either confidence or competence. The woman did the only sensible and correct thing to do in that situation. I'm not a parent, but I'm pretty sure that if a dog messes with my kid, that dog is getting a bullet to the face, and the cops can come later. Good on the 14-year old for having the guts to get in there.

Can't wait to see MGS on this thread.

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The fact that someone raised a dog to be violent enough to attack a kid makes me a sad panda.

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Boxer/pitbull wow. Nasty mix.

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Slarg232 wrote:The fact that someone raised a dog to be violent enough to attack a kid makes me a sad panda.

Very rarely is any "raising" involved. They neglect their pets, pets end up being unused to dealing with humans--and then the animals usually have to be put down.

And yet we don't put the owners down.
   
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Emperors Faithful wrote:I fail to see how killing the creature with a single shot is a sign of weakness.


Um, read again...

The dog was taken to a local veterinarian's office and survived


When you've got an aggressive dog that attacks kids, you put it down for good.

   
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She shot a dog while it present no danger at her at the moment? she didnt think of calling the police. Damnit. were is peta when there is a real animal right violation. animals deserve the same dignity as us human.

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garret wrote:She shot a dog while it present no danger at her at the moment? she didnt think of calling the police. Damnit. were is peta when there is a real animal right violation. animals deserve the same dignity as us human.


I don't know about you, but if it where my kid, I would have done the same thing. I would have hated it afterward, but I woulda dunnit.

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Why did I read "taken to a veterinarian and died?"
Failure of reading is fail.

Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.

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@garrett: If I have a gun, and some punk hurt my little kid, that punk's parents better have the coroner on speed dial...

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Also i wonder. did the kid antagonize the dog at all? even if it is violent a dog wont attack unless it feels proveoked. I hope that dog get some help for it violent tendencies.


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Slarg232 wrote:
garret wrote:She shot a dog while it present no danger at her at the moment? she didnt think of calling the police. Damnit. were is peta when there is a real animal right violation. animals deserve the same dignity as us human.


I don't know about you, but if it where my kid, I would have done the same thing. I would have hated it afterward, but I woulda dunnit.

Shooting the dog while it is chasing you ok. but while it cannot get to you you just shoot it. i wonder if she even thought of calling 911.


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JohnHwangDD wrote:@garrett: If I have a gun, and some punk hurt my little kid, that punk's parents better have the coroner on speed dial...

YOu never aim to kill only disable. then the law can deal with it the proper way.

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mattyrm wrote:i like the idea of a woman with a lobster claw for a hand touching my nuts. :-)
 
   
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@garret: you've never dealt with boxer / pit bulls?

For a little while when I was growing up, there was a wild pack of 3 boxer / pit bulls that came to our neighborhood. They were aggressive, and the neighborhood got the word out. My little brother (pre teen) was going outside with my dad, and I gave him a big plastic "sword" (giant Tinkertoy) -- a 3-foot heavy plastic baton. Lucky he had it, because that pack came up on them while they were minding their business in the back yard (opened to common parkland). My dad grabbed that stick and put it to good use.

It's just too bad my mom demanded no guns in the house.

Nasty, nasty mix.


And that's bullcrap. A little kid is automatically in mortal danger from any teenager or adult, so lethal force is justified, and I would not hesitate a second.

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This dog will be put down. There's little question about it. The only matter is if the owning family (if there is one) are going to apoligise or throw a fuss.

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Boxers i have dealt with. very nice dog breed when breed and raised correctly. pitbulls i cant really say.
I think if a dog is activly attacking you you do have the right to defend yourself. But this women got to the house were she was most likely safe from the dog and decided to try to kill it instead of calling the police or animal control whos job it is to deal with this stuff.

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Given that she can't predict when the dog will be loose again, and the dog was trespassing and refused to leave, she did the right thing by shooting it.

   
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garret wrote:Boxers i have dealt with. very nice dog breed when breed and raised correctly. pitbulls i cant really say.
I think if a dog is activly attacking you you do have the right to defend yourself. But this women got to the house were she was most likely safe from the dog and decided to try to kill it instead of calling the police or animal control whos job it is to deal with this stuff.


Dog didn't die, it survived at the vet. Probably got put down, but it wasn't her fault for that.

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I dont believe she did. She could haave lokced all the doors and windows and call the police and they would get there.
But she decided to try to kill it.
Edited for politness. sorry john. I will try to keep it civil from know on. Animal rights just gets me fired up.

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garret wrote:I dont believe she did. She could haave lokced all the doors and windows and call the police and they would get there.
But she decided to try to kill it.
But then again im probaly not ging to get through to you. You dont care for animal rights obviosly.


Oh god if I didn't know that that was directed at John I would rip you a new one.

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What is you problem with the mom killing the dog? It was obviously a threat, and very likely a future threat even if it did go away. I wouldn't want to have to be fearful everytime my kids went out and played. She did the right thing, good on her. The kid, one she recovers, can play safely from here on.

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@garret: what part of "being a prisoner in her own home" makes the least bit of sense?


A bit of context: In SoCal, Orange County, where this occurred, it's very common for people to park their cars outside, because homes here don't have basements for storing crap / workrooms / whatever. I know, it's stupid. Anyhow, a dog just mauled her kid. She has a with a bleeding 6-year-old and a 14-year-old, having to worry about rabies, infections, etc. needs to get her kid to the goddamn hospital. And that dog is out front, preventing her from taking her family to the doctor.

What in the feth are you expecting her to do?


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LAKE FOREST, Calif. (KABC) -- A mother in Lake Forest shot and wounded a dog Wednesday that had attacked her 6-year-old daughter in front of their home. The girl was treated for non-life-threatening injuries.

The 6-year-old girl was playing with her 3-year-old sister in the driveway of their home in the 22000 block of Marylhurst Court when the dog attacked her, according to Orange County sheriff's spokesman Jim Amormino. The girls' mother heard both her daughters screaming just before 11 a.m. and rushed outside.

"We came around the corner to see this dog on top of my 6-year-old daughter& mauling her, biting her. She was screaming," said Jennifer Cooper, the girls' mother.

Cooper's 14-year-old son then ran over and started punching the dog, believed to be a boxer. A neighbor also rushed over to try to scare the dog away, spraying the animal with Windex.

"It was horrifying. I sprayed it in its eyes, it kept at me, kept at me and I got a shovel and it was chasing off the kids," said neighbor Lisa Horner.

The dog eventually released the girl, and Cooper rushed the children back into the house. The dog continued to approach the mother and lunged at her 1-year-old child.

"[It] grabbed his pant leg, knocked him down and then got on top of the baby. It scared me to death. The baby has no chance against a dog that size," said Cooper.

She said the dog won't go away and it took up a menacing position on the porch, so she got her 9-mm Glock and shot the canine.

"My adrenaline was pounding so much I don't know if he was growling but he just wasn't leaving," said Cooper. "I looked behind the dog, there was no one else out in the street and I shot him once in chest."

The wounded dog fled across the street and was captured by authorities. It was then taken to a veterinarian for its wounds. Initial reports were that the dog was a pit bull, but animal control officials said the dog may be a boxer or a mix.

The 6-year-old girl was the only one injured in the incident. The girl suffered six or seven bites to the face, legs, shoulder and arm. She was treated at the scene by paramedics.

Cooper, an animal lover, said she had no choice but to shot the dog.

"That dog was a threat to my family and threat to the other children in my neighborhood, and I was just worried about what it might do once it left here," said Cooper.

Neighbors told investigators the dog has been seen around the neighborhood acting aggressively, but they don't know the identity of the owner.

"My honest opinion is the mother had every right to shoot the dog," said neighbor Tom Knie.

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Damn right. Bad luck animal lovers.

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When that didn’t work, the 14-year-old leaped at the dog, punching it until it let the child free.


Fair play to him for that. Do you guys give out....err...what would you say.. civic awards ?.. for bravery and the like ?


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Listen, garret, I don't like the idea of dogs being killed in any way (my family have been close with dogs for several generations), but you have to do these hard things sometimes. If I had a child that was mauled by a dog and couldn't get past it, then I'd have done the same.

It's not pleasant, but it had to be done. The woman might not have been sure if her child's injuries were life-threatening, and she did the right thing in this situation.

People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. 
   
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Guns are for girls, id have jammed a stick under its collar, twisted it till its neck broke, then mounted its head on a pike on my porch outside to deter other dogs from attacking in the future. I like dogs though, so id get the UN to write a strongly worded letter to all the other dogs in the area warning them against future acts of aggression and promising future dog food/toy sanctions.

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Hmmm, you know, I think mattrym may have the 14-year-old beat there.

Smacks wrote:
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Windex? Would that work? I mean, apparently not, but what would make someone try that?

Kudos to the mother and the 14 year old that was punching the dog. I would have done the exact same thing, though the dog wouldn't have survived.

It's perfectly reasonable to shoot an animal that's attacking one's child. Trying to uphold the "rights" of something that was mauling a 6 year old is laughable.

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mattyrm wrote:Guns are for girls, id have jammed a stick under its collar, twisted it till its neck broke, then mounted its head on a pike on my porch outside to deter other dogs from attacking in the future. I like dogs though, so id get the UN to write a strongly worded letter to all the other dogs in the area warning them against future acts of aggression and promising future dog food/toy sanctions.


Ha! That UN resolution might just stop them!

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