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Has anyone found a use for them besides getting a succubus with an agoniser into combat or a dracon with a punisher?

They cost the same points as an incubi, no power weapons or the amazing 3+ save...

They are road blocks that carry 2 x blasters in games 1750 and over.


Also in some fun games I take 3 heamons on bikes with a 3 man unit to make a T5 flammer unit of doom.

Hmmmm so in smaller games they're quite sad really?

Not at all.

I run units of 3 RJBs; two blasters and one splinter rifle. They rock.

At 90 points I would much rather free up another 15 and take a raider squad with DL.

My regular opponent is the wonderfully bastardish Death Guard

I've very rarely been satisfied with the performance of Reavers. Far too expensive for 1W T4 4+. Having blasters is great, except that you'll lose them to the first turn of enemy small arms fire, unless you waste a lot of points on very expensive bullet catchers.

I hate 'em.

LMoE

LastManOnEarth wrote:I've very rarely been satisfied with the performance of Reavers. Far too expensive for 1W T4 4+. Having blasters is great, except that you'll lose them to the first turn of enemy small arms fire, unless you waste a lot of points on very expensive bullet catchers.

I hate 'em.

LMoE

Well.....couple things to consider here.

1. Small arms fire is going to be contending with a 3+ cover save.

2. That small arms fire can hurt raiders too, so better directed at RJBs.

3. The Strength and toughness of an RJB are debatable. I play them as STR4, T4....but if you play them according to RAW (and including the DE FAQ) they are actually STR5, T5 or T4(5) because of the Eldar Jetbike Rule.

My guess is that the toughness and strength increase is already included in the profile.

They need a serious codex update. But everyone knows that. Oh and the FAQ is just straight rushed.

Well, there's only two camps to fall in. RAW or RAI.

RAI, RJBs should be T4, STR4, the Nightmare Doll works, and the horrorfex doesn't pin fearless units.

RAW, RJBs are STR5, T5, the Nightmare Doll doesn't work, and the horrorfex can pin a fearless unit.

I'm ok playing however my opponents like.

Your forgetting under RAW revers only move 6" since they are infantry.

I'll concur with Dash and Clthomps (not much of a shocker there) RJBs are excellent distraction/anti-tank units. They can help get a h2h HQ or Succubus into combat - but that's actually the less efficient use for them (I'll admit I run it a lot, but I do admit it's a sub-optimal build).

Clthomps really hit the nail on the head - the purpose of the RJBs is to be taken after you've already maxed out your Troop FoC slots. 90 points for 2x Blasters on jetbikes is a solid deal. Complaining that the enemy kills them round 1-2 is missing the point that if your enemy is killing them he isn't killing Raiders. What would you rather have alive, Raiders or RJBs? That's why you take them after maxed Raiders are selected, to serve as distraction units that will either absorb punishment that should target Raiders or to give you an option to hurt the enemy if he ignores it and shoots Raiders.

Oh I see now! Yes! thanks guys... My cunning kabalite brain is already thinking of nasty quick anti tank fun.

I'm in the camp for 3x rjbs with 2 blasters along with the other DE players out there. I'd also like to make another suggestion which I've found to be quite useful.


Try a haemoculi with destructor on a bike. I fact for fun try 6! They are a cheap T5 unit with 2 wounds that can really ruin any infantry's day.

Clthomps wrote:Your forgetting under RAW revers only move 6" since they are infantry.

Actually, RaW the DE codex doesn't work, Period, because nothing has a unit type.

They were more useful when they were scoring units.

Yeah should have just picked space marines aye haha