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Gwar! wrote:Debate it all you want, I just report what the rules actually say. It's up to others to tie their panties in a Knot. I stopped caring long ago.
Of course it needs writing. Maybe not as much as say AVATAR but it still needs it. I just hope its not the trend of CGI everything, make it flashy and go low on the rest of the movie.
Silly boy, this is modern Hollywood. You should be lucky if anyone has read one of the books let alone base a plot around one.
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Orlanth wrote:Silly boy, this is modern Hollywood. You should be lucky if anyone has read a book let alone base a plot around one.
Corrected your typo.
Most fo this stuff has been done to death. We have to remember the original started the whole fantasy leather barbarian thing. To even get close to the original movie it needs:
Teutonic theme
Teutonic music
Real plot
Excellent action scenes
Something new
These pics do not bode well and look more like Xena than James Earl Jones.
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So how would that be different than Hercules/Xena? Most of the Conan books are short story type formats with him kicking some butt and thats kinda it.
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They may be short story type formats, but they're also(for Howard's at least) pretty linear.
Starting with the massive invasion of the Gundermen's fort along the Cimmerian border, moving onto "The Frost Giant's Daughter"(when Conan first struck out on his own and fought alongside the Aesir/Vanir), etc would make for a good first movie. We'd see Conan going from a headstrong youth in a barbarian horde--to him becoming a hardened fighter when he was with the Aesir/Vanir.
Thats an interesting question now that I think about it. Has any fantasy slash movie since Conan made a profit? How many have there been?
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Don't think there've been any movies with quite the same draw as Conan.
Off the top of my head, we've had:
Conan: The Destroyer (a farce)
Red Sonja (also pretty ridiculous though with a cult following)
Beastmaster
Scorpion King (to a lesser extent)
Krull the Conqueror (Good Ole Kevin Sorbo fun)
There's been a few more I can think of but I may have been the only person to actually see them.
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As long as he bangs some chick, then tosses her into a fireplace as she giggles like a daemon I"m happy. I still don't know what that scene was about....
And whilst you're pointing and shouting at the boogeyman in the corner, you're missing the burglar coming in through the window.
Well, Duh! Because they had a giant Mining ship. If you had a giant mining ship you would drill holes in everything too, before you'd destory it with a black hole
Frazzled wrote:There's been a few more I can think of but I may have been the only person to actually see them.
Like Beastmaster 2 and Time Barbarians?
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Dude you're right! Of course I heard they had a really good writer for that movie...
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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Dude you're right! Of course I heard they had a really good writer for that movie...
Not only that but they grossed a ton at the box office for a fantasy movie (or any movie for that matter).
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Dude you're right! Of course I heard they had a really good writer for that movie...
You sayin' Howard wasn't good?
Howard is BETTER than Tolkien, but they don't write the same style of fantasy stories.
Hell, Tolkien got some of his ideas from Robert E. Howard.
Dude does look like a pretty solid Conan figure from a visual standpoint. Looks like they got those oh-so-often-mentioned eyes about right, at least.
As for a plot, Conan plots are generally pretty simple:
1. Conan needs cash.
2. Joins group of some kind.
3. Everyone else killed in battle.
4. Encounters something weird.
5. Defeats weird thing.
6. Loots treasure hoard.
7. Booze, bitches, and blow.
8. Go back to Step 1.
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Dude you're right! Of course I heard they had a really good writer for that movie...
You sayin' Howard wasn't good?
I'm saying it doesn't translate as well (and yes I think Tolkein was better at least in comparison to Conan vs. LOTR). There's not enough storyline. In most of his stories, Conan just sort of exists. He's not saving the world or building a longer lasting light bulb.
I did particularly like Conan's journey to a thinly disguised Azteca. That was cool and I liked the "going to get my wife and you're ALL GOING TO DIE" type storyline. very macho. Vision of him in glass chains climbing a pyramid is epic cool.
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Frazzled wrote:There's been a few more I can think of but I may have been the only person to actually see them.
Wizards of the Lost Kingdomw FTW !
2 Dungeons and Dragons movies...
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Frazzled wrote:There's been a few more I can think of but I may have been the only person to actually see them.
Wizards of the Lost Kingdomw FTW !
2 Dungeons and Dragons movies...
Don't forget the Dungeon Siege movie...
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Frazzled wrote:There's been a few more I can think of but I may have been the only person to actually see them.
Wizards of the Lost Kingdomw FTW !
2 Dungeons and Dragons movies...
Let us not forget...
One of my favorite "80s" films of the genre.
Thats one I was thinking of!
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Frazzled wrote:So how would that be different than Hercules/Xena? Most of the Conan books are short story type formats with him kicking some butt and thats kinda it.
Howard committed suicide shortly (a year?) after writing his Conan material. The stories, like all art, are the manifestation of their creator in a form of his choice. We get to see a barbarian battling these very real demons and fighting to survive how he wants to in a very savage way, which may well have been what gave Howard the mindset to liberate himself. Either way, to me there's a lot more going on And the old movie wasn't really based off a book, it was a mishmash of random stories and used a Kull villain. I actually have the old serial with Thulsa Doom that I picked up at a convention for 2 bucks. The guy at the stand didn't get why I was so stoked to find it
Jason Momoa is shaping up to be a pretty cool barbarian. He nailed the whole Noble Savage thing in Stargate Atlantis.
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