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I'm not sure how a tropical storm could do that, but geez- it looks all "Journey to the Center of the Earth"!!! Hopefully that was just an intersection/alley and no one fell down it...
The hole looks to be roughly 2-3x the width of the street. The article also mantions a similar hole opening last year.
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Obvious fake, this picture has been doctored so clearly that it should not been passed in any quality news unit outside of April 1st.
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It's actually a sink hole, where an underground cavern has caved in.
Here are 2 more pics of the Guatemala sink hole:
And two more, this time from Florida:
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I just covered this in a geology course... The earth is out to kill us all.
That is a perfect sinkhole from the OP though... I am at a bit of a loss. I can't find any pictures that even remotely resemble such a perfect sinkhole; they are usually very messy. It has to be some kind of cavern below, but those edges... it seriously looks like a photoshop.
Here are some better pics.
It is the angle of the photo that makes it look so perfect.
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Orlanth wrote:Obvious fake, this picture has been doctored so clearly that it should not been passed in any quality news unit outside of April 1st.
I'm reading 2001: A Space Odyssey right now, and the last line of the foreword by Arthur C. Clark is: "But please remember: this is only a work of fiction. The truth, as always, will be far stranger."
I think this image is so incredible because it is real. I've seen pictures of other sink holes, and they look fake because it's unimaginable to me how the ground could just open up like that. As to how a storm could cause this- I assume it has to do with flooding/erosion? or the like, opening up an underground cavern, and the thin roof suddenly caving in. I'm assuming the ground as more solid when they first built on it. Crazy!!
Read the article, it was formed by an improper sewer system. So not only did your house fall 200 feet underground with you in it... you landed in a sea of gak!
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I work at a vacation company, they're all talking about it here and the mudslides and stuff that closed the airport and made us have to cancel our tours there today and give everyone refunds.
I think there was a volcano eruption there last week too.
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SlaveToDorkness wrote:Read the article, it was formed by an improper sewer system. So not only did your house fall 200 feet underground with you in it... you landed in a sea of gak!
I don't see anything mentioned about a sewer system in the article- only that it was a sinkhole. The part about a three-story building and a house falling in is pretty crazy, though!
CNN wrote:In the northern part of Guatemala City, the downpour created a sinkhole the size of a street intersection. Residents told CNN that a three-story building and a house fell into the hole.
Orlanth wrote:Obvious fake, this picture has been doctored so clearly that it should not been passed in any quality news unit outside of April 1st.
I'm reading 2001: A Space Odyssey right now, and the last line of the foreword by Arthur C. Clark is: "But please remember: this is only a work of fiction. The truth, as always, will be far stranger."
I think this image is so incredible because it is real. I've seen pictures of other sink holes, and they look fake because it's unimaginable to me how the ground could just open up like that. As to how a storm could cause this- I assume it has to do with flooding/erosion? or the like, opening up an underground cavern, and the thin roof suddenly caving in. I'm assuming the ground as more solid when they first built on it. Crazy!!
Look at the pictures they are not the same sinkhole.
Notice how the roads are different.
In fact one is labelled Honduras the other Guatamala.
The above sinkholes would have to have opened onto a huge hole underground for the soil and rock to have gone 'nowhere'. While sinkholes like this exist they are normally cave systems formed by natural erosion rather than an event. The top sinkhole has very rounded sides and overhangs of surrounding buildings, the shock of the release of that much stone would have caused subsidence in most structures for the top pic to be true Honduran houses must be built like bunkers.
Now this is what a sinkhole looks like. The soil has to have somewhere to sink and subsides from around.
I cannot see what would cause the first type of sinkhole unless there was a poorly covered excavation that had not been filled. For this to have happened naturally there must be large cave underneath big enough for all soil and rock to disappear into causing a near circular fracture without disturbing surrounding rock strata. No strata appears to be crossed ther the hoe doesn't follow a fault in the rock. I am not buying this, it has to be a poorly covered pit and I don't buy the top photo at all, the lighting is too wierd.
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garret wrote:It is shopped i think. Look at the upper left part of the hole. Why is the sidwals so perfectly intack? And the fence for a matter of fact.
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Blitza da warboy wrote:a storm having enough power to do that, is a bit of an exagerattion imo, so i say its photoshopped.
Unless the storm was a tornado or something, that would make more sense.
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Orlanth wrote:Obvious fake, this picture has been doctored so clearly that it should not been passed in any quality news unit outside of April 1st.
Obvious fake? Do you happen to be an expert on the subject? Sorry, you fail.
Phryxis wrote:Unreal how fake some of those look, but the one Gwar posted looks pretty real.
They are all real. Studying is something you could try, also, you know, using the internets for more than just Dakka, porn and youtube.
@IG_urban Honest scepticism isn't trolling, however your above reply was. If you disagree try doing so on the issues. There is no excuse to be rude isnt there. Grow up please.
IG_urban wrote:
Obvious fake? Do you happen to be an expert on the subject? Sorry, you fail.
No I am not a geologist. And to apply such quick judgements I suppose you claim you are? You certainly have not shown you can post like someone with an education, so I have good reason to doubt that.
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DOWNPOURS caused by tropical storm Agatha have created a giant sinkhole in Guatemala City, while throughout the country officials have reported 120 people dead and at least 53 missing.
The sinkhole, which formed in the northern part of the capital city, swallowed up a space larger than the area of a street intersection.
Residents said a three-storey building and a house fell into the hole. The residents blamed a poor sewerage system for the sinkhole.
A similar hole opened up nearby last year.
Officials said flooding and landslides caused by Agatha had killed at least 144 people and left thousands homeless throughout Central America, with Guatemala the hardest hit by the season's first tropical storm.
In Chimaltenango - a province west of Guatemala City - landslides buried dozens of rural Indian communities and killed at least 60 people, Governor Erick de Leon said. About 110,000 people have been evacuated from their homes in Guatemala.
Thousands more have fled their homes in neighbouring Honduras, where the death toll rose to 15 as meteorologists predicted three more days of rain.
In El Salvador, about 180 landslides have been reported to authorities and 11,000 people evacuated.
The death toll was nine, the country's President, Mauricio Funes, said.
Agatha was demoted from a tropical storm to a tropical depression on Saturday night and lost its status as a depression on Sunday evening.
It was the first named storm for the Pacific hurricane season. The Atlantic hurricane season starts today.
more pictures on the site.
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Orlanth wrote:@IG_urban Honest scepticism isn't trolling, however your above reply was. Grow up little boy.
your post was not honest skepticism. You worded your post like it was fact, and then you go even further and state that the whole story is a hoax. I never called you a troll. You still fail, fantastic try, though.
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It definitely could be- CNN makes a point of saying the photo was distrubuted in a handout (it's not theirs). However, the accounts of residents seem to point to it actually happening- although it does seem like it must be due to a sewer/cavern etc. underneath. Perhaps that was where everything in the area was draining to, and it eroded all the soil under the pavement (exacerbated by the storm/flooding) and it suddenly caved in.
It does seem that that should be impossible in a well constructed city... if civil engineers are doing their job and all that... (at least I hope it's impossible!)
Edit: Also, sorry for the misread on the sewer system- you're right on about that! Yuck...
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Orlanth wrote:@IG_urban Honest scepticism isn't trolling, however your above reply was. If you disagree try doing so on the issues. There is no excuse to be rude isnt there. Grow up please.
IG_urban wrote:
Obvious fake? Do you happen to be an expert on the subject? Sorry, you fail.
No I am not a geologist. And to apply such quick judgements I suppose you claim you are? You certainly have not shown you can post like someone with an education, so I have good reason to doubt that.
use spell check.
what JUDGMENTS did I pass? What did I claim to be? Nothing. You accuse me of posting without intelligence when you are the one making outrageous claims and statements.
Automatically Appended Next Post: the only thing I am guilty of is getting very annoyed at the whole "ITS SHOPPED!!111one" trend that has almost become a meme on the interwebs. Everybody thinks they are a PS expert.
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Orlanth wrote:@IG_urban Honest scepticism isn't trolling, however your above reply was. If you disagree try doing so on the issues. There is no excuse to be rude isnt there. Grow up please.
IG_urban wrote:
Obvious fake? Do you happen to be an expert on the subject? Sorry, you fail.
No I am not a geologist. And to apply such quick judgements I suppose you claim you are? You certainly have not shown you can post like someone with an education, so I have good reason to doubt that.
use spell check.
what JUDGMENTS did I pass? What did I claim to be? Nothing. You accuse me of posting without intelligence when you are the one making outrageous claims and statements.
I am more concerned with your poor attitude than anything else. I saw other pictures and reconsider what I said about it looking like a fake. The photos looked fake and I am still sceptical of what this actually is. I still consider it more likely to be a poorly capped pit than a real sinkhole. That volume of rock has to go somewhere.
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