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It would be great if they started reviving some of the specialist games in WD magazines, they wouldn't have to do full rewrites or updates but little mordheim articles or new space hulk stuff would be great and I don't think it would be very time intensive, but I doubt that will happen and until stuff like that does happen I will remain firm on my not buying WD stance.

At the Developers Open Day in UK today this was evidently attributed to Rick Priestly:

http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148115&page=6

WD - All WD'sc are now centrally controlled from Lenton to prevent as Rick put it 'anarchy!' They are quite aay of the lack of hobby content in the mag and are looking to remedy this.

Interesting thing was how vocal Rick P. was re; GW / WD policy - he seemed very hacked off at the direction WD had / is taking, and that now the design studio had more control over Wd, he'd like to see more rules based stuff in there... - in fact, there was projec the nearly mentioned, but stopped short after a glare from Tim....

And there was word recently that GWCan was being absorbed by GWUS. Don't know if that means your "even more horrible than ours" WD will change but that in conjunction with what Priestly said may give you Cannucks hope yet.

Anyone notice the tiny sentence that said a free Terminator and Nob with issue 345?

the Canadian and American (and UK) White Dwarf have been near identical for over a year now.
I got the UK issue last June, and with the exception of the rogue trader and store listings, prices, and 1 page of Canadian events, they were identical

I don't get WD anymore, I used to all the time. Wasn't the money or the content, was more like a lack of time to really check it out. I always have some new codex or army book or new game rulebook or whatever next to the potty and when I'm there I only ready a couple of pages at a time.. rarely have time to just sit and read at home. I keep meaning to subscribe though, but now I'm between houses so maybe after I finish moving...

Beans will do the trick Necros, eat some and in no time you will manage to read full encyclopedias on the potty.

Ahtman wrote:

Alpharius wrote:

George Spiggott wrote:

Alpharius wrote:inconceivable!

This word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

No, it does actually.

Especially if you think about it.

Did you see that? It was huge and just flew over your head! WHOOSH


Bring back Necromunda and Epic battle reports.

Er, not actually.

Aren't you a bit amazed that a company like GW (a hobby leader) has let WD come to this?

Apparently Rick Priestly is.

Did you see that?

You just flew into a windshield. SPLAAAAT

WD isn't worth what you pay, unless you are really into it. Picture layouts etc. Especially since they release stuff like Blood Angel list as PDF.

back again, have now read (most) of it. First repsonses to some comments...Compared to WDs of recent it's very good. Compared to 5 years ago, it's equal, 10 years ago, why am i paying this? It's not that I'm poor are a low earner (although on a v tight budget) I'd rather spend 50% more and buy one of the novels, that lasts me so much lnger than the mag timevscost wise.

If they still produced the citadel journal i'd buy it rather than wd.
Speacialist games - understand the reason for dropping them, to make space for betetr articles....can we have the better articles now please? Also is it me or were the speacialist aricles alsways far better with tactics, new rules and GOOD modelling articles?

Jervis - he's always saying to write to him...but never comments on letters (as far as I have spotted, maybe he has but not put much emphasis on them...) Might write in myself too! Lead by example etc....

GW if you're reading this I WANT THW READERS ARMY ARTICLES BACK

ON TO THE MAG (GW staff have not yet recieved it, they hadn't got a clue what's in it. I questioned them about a small coment, they didn't seem to have any clue (unusual, they're pretty hot on stuff usually in bham) can't find the pase at the mo, but somewhere I'm sure it said there are two new 40k expansions planned, ones obviously planet fall, the other? Staff could only assume apoc reload, but didn't seem to know about dropzone or whatever it's called.

History of the game is surprisingly interesting, considering I've read it several times before in differnt issues.

Battle report with new rules - looks promising, I'll make the change personally. They keep saying they want to remove the 'abstract' bit, but as far as i can tell cover save from troops, but if you make it the troops aren't hit giving the cover....logically it doesn't work in my head, help anyone? Don't really mind though.

Interesting rule I've not spotted talked about on here much, now when you scatter, you take away the firers bs, so marine scatters less than IG. At least for ordanace anyway.

In response to 'is the imperium screwd?' thread - the answers here and it's a big fat YES. With the new game instead of building up the past history, they say now the HH books are out etc, they want to build up current events, and imperial types are calling it 'the end times'. Ther's a 'current' time line of events from the past 250 years, ending with...

999.m41 Tech Priests of the Adeptus Mechanicus discover failures in the mechanisms of the Golden Throne that are far beyond their ability to repair Everyone wave bye bye! Wonder where they'll go with it next (in 10 or so real years)

Also has the usual beginers paintingand also a how to article on building a terrian board, however it's almost as bland and devoid of decent detail as many other articles recently. It does show a very impressive ruined cathedral though.

A nice touch - inside front cover, shows a photo of a battle like in the old days.

Different editor, other guys on hols or somehing, Mark Latham. Maybe the improvemtns cus there's new 40K, maybe because of different Editor. Will wait a moneth or so and see.

Sorry, unable to get pics up (weekend and out of office next week). It's worth buying for once, however if it was mor than £4 it'd still be a no. As an aside I've started reading old copies again from years ago, they're far mre entertaining, show much better conversions and readers articles and explain how player play/collect rather than what they simply do during a game. It's like I've told the volutnters that work for me, reports/articles shouldn't be diary accounts, but should pick up on just a couple of points and explain the hows and why, not the what's. I feel this could be where WD is going wrong. Too much emphasis on 'what's' new and beginers, rather than why. This issue has more why, and I think it's above the current standard. Keep it going Mark!

covenant84 wrote:

999.m41 Tech Priests of the Adeptus Mechanicus discover failures in the mechanisms of the Golden Throne that are far beyond their ability to repair Everyone wave bye bye! Wonder where they'll go with it next (in 10 or so real years)

Um, nowhere?

We've been pretty much living in the "End Times" for, well, a long time.

The only new bit here is the "failures in the mechanisms of the Golden Throne that are far beyond their ability to repair".

What exactly that means is, of course, purposely vague.

Also, if is far beyond their means to repair, it might be far beyond their means to diagnose properly too.

For all we know, the "internal toilet paper roll empty in 5000 years" indicator light might be what's flashing red.

ha ha, nice giggle at that!

We have been in the end times but the impression they give is that the end is now very near. it's also got 801.m41 An unprecedented flicker in the astronomican throws thousands of ships of course, dooming them to destruction in the depths of the Warp. Also hints of more Necrons awakening (take it necrons are actually getting a nice shiny codex revamp in the next few years, along with space Wolves and Dark Eldar).

999.m41 the light of the astronomican grows dimemr. Contact is lost with Ultima Macharia, and is intermittent at best with Macragge and Cypra Mundi. I'm not too hot on the current happenings, is this already common knowledge and they're just emphasing it more, or is it 'new' bits?

@ covenant84:
don't hesitate to write to jervis. When i did,main answer was "has read,but no time to answer all" ,but sometimes
you get handwritten adds to this standard mail by those you've addressed it to.

The end of times thing is naturally overstated. One has to be doubtful that there will ver be background information telling us that the apocalypse has come and there is no Imperium any more, so no need to keep playing...

The failure in the Golden Throne will mean that it is predicted that it can only function for another hundred years or so. Plenty of time to maintain the status quo in other words.

Moreover, even if they do decide that the Emperor's mortal body dies, they will just go back to the old Star Child thing and say he has been freed from his body to become a full God.

They ain't going to do away with the Imperium at any rate.

covenant84 wrote:In response to 'is the imperium screwd?' thread - the answers here and it's a big fat YES. With the new game instead of building up the past history, they say now the HH books are out etc, they want to build up current events, and imperial types are calling it 'the end times'.

Uh, oh. I hope the "Lord of the End Times" Archaeon doesn't show up as a Chaos Lord and wages a Summer-long campaign that winds up doing nothing; again.

Alpharius - Its completely 'Inconceivable!' that you have obviously not watched the Princess Bride.
Then you'd understand what George Spiggott and Ahtman are on about.

Hang your head in shame, sir.....

Chimera_Calvin wrote:Alpharius - Its completely 'Inconceivable!' that you have obviously not watched the Princess Bride.
Then you'd understand what George Spiggott and Ahtman are on about.

Hang your head in shame, sir.....

I was going to be more subtle, but yes. Say that line out loud with a Spanish accent while picturing Mandy Patinkin to get the full effect

Wouldn't the full effect be Wallace Shawn saying the line?

Since he said it in the movie and all

I've seen it, and perhaps I was a tad snipy in reply, but, my point is that it IS pretty sad that GW let WD get to where it is.

Apparently they are aware of it, finally, and they are (allegedly) going to do something about it.

(By the way, the above was typed using six fingers.)

(On one hand.)

Thats a believe it when I see it statement. We were promised the same thing about FAQs etc. for years. Unless there is massive improvement my WD days will continue to be behind me.

Phryxis wrote:I don't really get why people complain about how expensive WD is. If you can't afford $6 a month for something to read when you're in the can, isn't that more of a commentary on your lack of earning power than it is on the publishers of WD?

"I'm poor, therefore you suck!"

Really?

loved that post, thank you - its so true

1hadhq wrote:@ covenant84:
don't hesitate to write to jervis. When i did,main answer was "has read,but no time to answer all" ,but sometimes
you get handwritten adds to this standard mail by those you've addressed it to.

Jervis used to answer any and all emials and he did it very quickly and very clearly. Now, to be honest, I am not sure he can.. I imagine that 10 years ago he got a few hundred emails.. not he probably gets that many a day.. Not trying to be negative, but the guy is only human.. maybe he needs a few servitors to scan the emails for him.. lol

I still have a subscription to White Dwarf, some if it I enjoy...some not so much.

What I really miss is that "Echoes from the Warp" (I think that is what it was called) section with the Q&A.

jfrazell wrote:Thats a believe it when I see it statement. We were promised the same thing about FAQs etc. for years. Unless there is massive improvement my WD days will continue to be behind me.

Shhhh, nobody tell jfrazell that GW recently started to give us FAQs too. Then again, I am on the Doubting Thomas side of the fence with regards to WD at the moment. I know they can do it, but will they? I hope so, I was silly enough to get the super ultra cheap 3 year subscription a few months back.

temprus wrote:

jfrazell wrote:Thats a believe it when I see it statement. We were promised the same thing about FAQs etc. for years. Unless there is massive improvement my WD days will continue to be behind me.

Shhhh, nobody tell jfrazell that GW recently started to give us FAQs too. Then again, I am on the Doubting Thomas side of the fence with regards to WD at the moment. I know they can do it, but will they? I hope so, I was silly enough to get the super ultra cheap 3 year subscription a few months back.

Same here, and if I hang my head in shame for anything, it might just be for that!

Curses, Alpharius had me fooled!!!!

But there is one thing he doesn't know.....

....I....

....am left handed!!!



Back on topic, I like some of the rumours I've been hearing about WD. It sounds like some of the hoary old vets (Priestley, I'm looking at you) have woken up to the fact that some of the newer, younger guys in the company don't have a clue how to fit substance in with the style.
WD is very slick, but its been seriously lacking in content for ages now (unless you play LotR, which I don't). Hopefully, they'll get their act together now...

Before there are any User Post Alerts:

Hoary: adj. Grey or white with age, often referring to hair. See also: Hoarfrost.

two_heads_talking wrote:

1hadhq wrote:@ covenant84:
don't hesitate to write to jervis. When i did,main answer was "has read,but no time to answer all" ,but sometimes
you get handwritten adds to this standard mail by those you've addressed it to.

Jervis used to answer any and all emails and he did it very quickly and very clearly. Now, to be honest, I am not sure he can.. I imagine that 10 years ago he got a few hundred emails.. not he probably gets that many a day.. Not trying to be negative, but the guy is only human.. maybe he needs a few servitors to scan the emails for him.. lol

Never e-mailed, used "pen-and-paper". Yes got answered everytime.
E-mails only distract, to massive numbers today,but "real" mail gets interest by first thought,than spelled

Iorek - the new star of dictionary corner

All you non suscribers...you don't know what you're missing!
I mean theres a page long artilce/advert about the new GW gaming mat!
Thats right a green tablecloth!
A green tablecloth that costs £18!!!!!!

G_Model101 wrote:All you non suscribers...you don't know what you're missing!
I mean theres a page long artilce/advert about the new GW gaming mat!
Thats right a green tablecloth!
A green tablecloth that costs £18!!!!!!

Uh wow, i better go right now, buy and check the german WD if its in there as well.

Hopefully for at least 20 € !!!!!!!!