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/\/\/\ I agree, but I'm anticipating disappointment over the COH cover system. In COH, all of your units would not hesitate to hit dirt and crawl if it meant they could save their asses. In addition, you could even add suppression fire and force them to sit still or run away. The problem is that with Space Marines around, this system will be made to cater to their superhuman status so they'll either not need to go to ground, won't be able to be suppressed, and/or won't fly like ragdolls when an artillery explosion hits them. While the third one is only a minor thing, I'm pretty sure one of the first two problems will surface.

Of course, if they try to make space marines hug cover and suppress-able, fanboys will cry and cry about spaz marines (hurr) not being supermen.

Hey it'd just be exposing the Imperium of man for the pansies they really are

Those tin can bastards will be hugging the ground after I hit dem wif ma hammerhead!!!!

hellz ya! And I'll bring in my Skyray Missile Gunship. For the Greater Good, bond brother!

thesuperiorninja wrote:bond brother!

Oh yethhhh

*takes off your pants*

it has great graphics, and that warp spider, so sexy and deadly

Nah dawg, I still rape tap da farseer!

HOLY CARP NIDS CONFIRMED!!!!

HOLY CRAP...DUH!!!

I doubt that all the features of COH will translate into DOW 2. It's an engine, not a strict set of "rules". I'm sure that they'll use the basics of the engine that they really like and improve on others as well as make new things that fit the 40k universe.

To see this in action already, look at some of the first-person shooters that came out later on using the Unreal engine.

Gangsta_Tau wrote:*takes off your pants*

Wait... what?

Why are you taking off his pants?

BYE

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Gangsta_Tau wrote:*takes off your pants*

Wait... what?

Why are you taking off his pants?

BYE

Why not?

ewwwww....

Dow 2 ! Thats nice game! Has destroying land and good graphics!

The Eldar look much better in this one, they totally butchered them in the first one.

From what I hear they might not have Chaos as an army and if they don't have Chaos I'm gonna have to drown someone .

I read somewhere that Chaos and the Imperial Guard would added in the expansion.

WHAT!!!!! This is an outrage, Chaos are much more worthy than a pitiful expansion. Chaos is the most metal army in the 40K universe, if anything they should the Tyranids in the expansion.

The Thousandth Son wrote:WHAT!!!!! This is an outrage, Chaos are much more worthy than a pitiful expansion. Chaos is the most metal army in the 40K universe, if anything they should the Tyranids in the expansion.

I'm going to have to disagree with you there, I think that having Tyranids I going to be a major selling point for DoWII (At least to the WH40k community). And personally I'm getting a tired of chaos in DoW, I mean it almost always heretic this and heretic that, it just gets a little boring. I think it will be refreshing to have a one campaign not focused chaos... And then we can go burning the heretic.

True, in the first DoW the whole Heretic thing did get old, but it's not beyond redemption. If they'd done it more like the Space Marine faction only Chaos of course and if they hadn't made up units like cultists and heretics it would've been much better.

I've mentioned this in another thread... but did anyone else think that the animation by Plastic Wax really sucked balls?

The models are fine, just the actual animation, like the warpspider jumping off the rock, and the running banshees. They look really, really dumb.

I thought that the animation was fine.

Were you fine with Rover the Docile Lictor too?

Ok now the Lictor was a bit calm but it was only there to build suspense and make you want the game more too. It was basically them saying "Hey look we finally got 'Nids in here!"

this game irritates me, just because they are changing the structure of the game, it will be based around a few individual squads that level up as you play, which in itself is awesome....buuut i wanted a bigger dawn of war, like, more epic battles, titans and so forth, it was always irritating to only be allowed one land raider and one squad of each types of termies (that was really annoying), i vote bring on the Dawn Of War: Total War series

AND the squads are frikking tiny, i mean, who wants to play with 4, 3 man squads, its just stupid, i want epic battles, involving huge numbers of marines and IG, this game is a travesty....i'll still buy and play it, but i wont be happy about it

also, space marine for the 360 looks awesome

I am not overly impressed, but perhaps because I am impressed enough with Dark Crusade/Soulstorm.

All the extra eye candy is of negligible value unless gamerscale is cut, which is a step backwards IMHO.

after all to play Dawn of War I need to zoom out enough to see my eight or so ork mobs, tactical squads, aspect squads or whatever. plus mulitple vehicles. The indiividual graphics is lost in all of this.

I think we are being oversold on the graphics.

Dawn of War 2 has nids, great, but it will need to deliver rather a lot to compensate for the loss of five other races.

Well it's probably gonna be like Dawn of War. The first one only had the 4 races. Winter Assault added IG. Dark Crusade added Tau and Crons. Soulstorm, Sisters of Battle and Dark Eldar. I say give it time and more races will show up. After all what better way to keep people buying your stuff than to only give it to them in installments?

Edward089 wrote:this game irritates me, just because they are changing the structure of the game, it will be based around a few individual squads that level up as you play, which in itself is awesome....buuut i wanted a bigger dawn of war, like, more epic battles, titans and so forth, it was always irritating to only be allowed one land raider and one squad of each types of termies (that was really annoying), i vote bring on the Dawn Of War: Total War series

Hell yeah. I'm with ya all the way... *Need to make a topic*

Orlanth wrote:Dawn of War 2 has nids, great, but it will need to deliver rather a lot to compensate for the loss of five other races.

I agree. The loss of the other five (especially CSM and IG) makes the game less appealing to me. I mean, yeah lots of fan whined their heads off for Nids, but now they have it, but it seems to be at the sacrifice of the other really great teams.

One of the common sayings I've seen around other forums is "IG vs. Nids. EPIC!!"

Which I agree, but the IG will be undersized if they hold true to what we think they will. Or they could be waiting on the IG until they bring out the new 'dex.

But personally I am really looking forwrad to this game. The graphics and combat look awesome (Everything is descructible!!) Hopefully the other teams will be out soon.

OK guys I need to tell you something See that cover system thing thats only in Single player mode and in single player you only have 4 sqauds of 3 men to control but multiplayer is when you unleash HORDES HORDES of Nid,ork, eldar and space marine armies so im so getting this game ladies and gentlemen.

thesuperiorninja wrote:Well it's probably gonna be like Dawn of War. The first one only had the 4 races. Winter Assault added IG. Dark Crusade added Tau and Crons. Soulstorm, Sisters of Battle and Dark Eldar. I say give it time and more races will show up. After all what better way to keep people buying your stuff than to only give it to them in installments?

Yes, this is obvious, however so therefore is the solution.

Dont buy Dawn of War 2, wait until it has reached Soulstrom level then buy. There are enough decent games on the to get list we can likely afford the wait.

This is indeed what did. I borrowsed Dawn of War and Winter Assault for a one use play through of the campaign.

Then I bought Dark Crusade and play it as my RTS. I am not into RTS as a rule, I just play the astroy and uninstall. Dark Crusade, later replaced by Soulstorm is the exception. I play that all the time. I much prefer the way it is handled to Warcraft, Starcraft, Dune, Red Alert or Command and Conquer game my a very strong margin. Noother RTS has had any hold on me beyond the initial single player campaign run through. this is not due to genre, like the Command and Conquer background myself.