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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/04 08:46:46
Subject: No more RulesBoyz
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Ultramarine Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Or to get back to the original source material that the eldar codex was nicked from:
'Go not to the Ruleboyz for council, for they shall say both no and yes...'
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While you sleep, they'll be waiting...
Have you thought about the Axis of Evil pension scheme? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/04 11:38:54
Subject: No more RulesBoyz
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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bigchris1313 wrote:"Ask not the Ruleboyz a question, for they will give you three answers, all of which are true and horrifying to know."
That was it, except changed to say:
"Ask not the Ruleboyz a question, for they will give you three answersm all of which are different and wrong."
BYE
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/04 14:24:34
Subject: Re:No more RulesBoyz
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
Sidney (Home of Nothing), OH. USA
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Well, I'm all for it. You send them a question, they send you an answer & then you print it out so you can show it to everyone you play against. Sounds pretty easy. I'll wait to see how it plays out. Hopefully GW will keep things straight and use these Q&A for future FAQ's.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/04 15:46:14
Subject: Re:No more RulesBoyz
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Charging Wild Rider
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J'santai Khan wrote:Well, I'm all for it. You send them a question, they send you an answer & then you print it out so you can show it to everyone you play against. Sounds pretty easy. I'll wait to see how it plays out. Hopefully GW will keep things straight and use these Q&A for future FAQ's.
You know how easily an e-mail printout can be fabricated, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/04 16:17:32
Subject: No more RulesBoyz
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Lieutenant General
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And it will probably still have the 'unofficial' disclaimer in the e-mail as well.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/04 16:48:22
Subject: No more RulesBoyz
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Phanobi
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I had a friend call the rulesboyz for a dispute in WHFB that we had. The rulesboyz sided with him, twice. I showed him IN THE RULEBOOK where it said I was right and then pointed him to Dakka for the How To Have a Rules Debate article.
He now knows not to ask the rulesboyz for anything.
Ozymandias, King of Kings
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My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings. Look on My works, Ye Mighty, and despair.
Chris Gohlinghorst wrote:Holy Space Marine on a Stick.
This conversation has even begun to boggle my internet-hardened mind.
A More Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/04 17:01:24
Subject: No more RulesBoyz
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Nurgle Veteran Marine with the Flu
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When this Roolzboyz malarkey first started, we were not allowed to answer call-in questions and had to refer them to said RBz. If it was was a slow night, we'd look up the correct answer and call the RBz to see what answer they gave. It was usually 60/40 in favor of the incorrect interpretation, depending on which RB you got. I'll be interested in the answers (and time to get it) that are received. Wasn't that the whole basis of the RBz? To get an answer to your in-game question?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/04 18:46:59
Subject: No more RulesBoyz
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Ozymandias wrote:I had a friend call the rulesboyz for a dispute in WHFB that we had. The rulesboyz sided with him, twice. I showed him IN THE RULEBOOK where it said I was right and then pointed him to Dakka for the How To Have a Rules Debate article.
He now knows not to ask the rulesboyz for anything.
Ozymandias, King of Kings
Something that you need to realize is how the question is phrased. If you ask something like..a Space Marine has a 3 + save, you should get the correct answer.
I've seen someone call in and ask: If I roll a 1 on a plasma gun shot, and I fail my save, do I die instantly? The answer given was yes. The caller then snorted in his I'm superior way and sneered that the Rulesboy didn't know the rules, because failing that save does not cause Instant Death.
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.Only a fool believes there is such a thing as price gouging. Things have value determined by the creator or merchant. If you don't agree with that value, you are free not to purchase. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/04 18:56:25
Subject: No more RulesBoyz
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Le Grognard wrote:Wasn't that the whole basis of the RBz? To get an answer to your in-game question?
Yup.
You got an answer.
Just not necessarily the *correct* answer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/04 19:18:59
Subject: No more RulesBoyz
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Phanobi
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General Hobbs wrote:Ozymandias wrote:I had a friend call the rulesboyz for a dispute in WHFB that we had. The rulesboyz sided with him, twice. I showed him IN THE RULEBOOK where it said I was right and then pointed him to Dakka for the How To Have a Rules Debate article.
He now knows not to ask the rulesboyz for anything.
Ozymandias, King of Kings
Something that you need to realize is how the question is phrased. If you ask something like..a Space Marine has a 3 + save, you should get the correct answer.
I've seen someone call in and ask: If I roll a 1 on a plasma gun shot, and I fail my save, do I die instantly? The answer given was yes. The caller then snorted in his I'm superior way and sneered that the Rulesboy didn't know the rules, because failing that save does not cause Instant Death.
If I have to ask if a Space Marine has a 3+ save there are more serious problems that the Rulesboyz will be unable to help me with.
For the record, the question is if a unit is charged on the flank with two units that add up to unit strength 5 does that negate rank bonus. The rulebook is pretty clear that this is not the case but the RBz got it wrong... twice.
Ozymandias, King of Kings
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My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings. Look on My works, Ye Mighty, and despair.
Chris Gohlinghorst wrote:Holy Space Marine on a Stick.
This conversation has even begun to boggle my internet-hardened mind.
A More Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/04 20:19:37
Subject: No more RulesBoyz
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Fixture of Dakka
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One day GW will have an artificial intelligence system to answer all questions.
G
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/04 20:46:36
Subject: No more RulesBoyz
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yeah, to err is human, but to really screw things up you need a computer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/06 21:55:12
Subject: Re:No more RulesBoyz
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Major
far away from Battle Creek, Michigan
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so has anyone received a response to any rules questions yet?
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PROSECUTOR: By now, there have been 34 casualties.
Elena Ceausescu says: Look, and that they are calling genocide.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/06 23:09:15
Subject: Re:No more RulesBoyz
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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olympia wrote:so has anyone received any correct responses to any rules questions yet?
Fixed it for you.
BYE
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/06 23:36:06
Subject: No more RulesBoyz
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Chosen Baal Sec Youngblood
Austin, TX
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olympia wrote:so has anyone received a response to any rules questions yet?
I just did. It came back in about 20 minutes.
Here it is: (email-addys stripped or SPAM SHIELDED)
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Hello,
No, they cannot fire the turn they arrive.
Thanks!
John Spencer
Customer Service Specialist
Please do not delete previous email threads as this will help us serve
you better!
Games Workshop
Customer Service
6711 Baymeadow Drive Suite A
Glen Burnie MD 21060
Games Workshop Customer Service is open:
Monday through Friday 9:00 Am to 7:00 PM EST
Contact info:
1-888-248-2335
custserv[ AT]games-workshop[DOT]com
Or visit us online at:
www.games-workshop.com
-----Original Message-----
From: mettius@[CENSORED]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 6:14 PM
To: askyourquestion
Subject: Drop Pods Firing on Turn of Arrival?
Can Space Marine Drop Pods fire on the turn they are placed on the table
(i.e. arrive via. deep strike)?
A White Dwarf Battle Report indicates they can, and it would seem this was
the intended effect, yet the rules interpreted literally seem to state
otherwise.
-Erich Weidner
Austin, TX
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/07 00:17:32
Subject: Re:No more RulesBoyz
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Major
far away from Battle Creek, Michigan
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Hello,
Answers are below.
Thanks!
John Spencer
Customer Service Specialist
Please do not delete previous email threads as this will help us serve you better!
Games Workshop
Customer Service
6711 Baymeadow Drive Suite A
Glen Burnie MD 21060
Games Workshop Customer Service is open:
Monday through Friday 9:00 Am to 7:00 PM EST
Contact info:
1-888-248-2335
custservATgames-workshop.com
Or visit us online at:
www.games-workshop.com
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From: me
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 5:21 PM
To: askyourquestion
Subject: rules questions
Hello!
I would be grateful for an answer to these three questions:
1. Does an Ork Battlewagon with a Deff Rolla inflict d6 STR10 hits if it rams a vehicle?
No.
2. Is a unit which loses an assault and chooses to pass the morale check via God of War subject to No Retreat?
Yes.
3. Will the responses to #1 and #2 above be consistent from one emailer to the next?
Yes.
Thank you very much and I love your games!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/11/07 00:18:04
PROSECUTOR: By now, there have been 34 casualties.
Elena Ceausescu says: Look, and that they are calling genocide.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/07 00:18:43
Subject: No more RulesBoyz
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[MOD]
Madrak Ironhide
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lol@question 3
Nice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/07 01:58:53
Subject: No more RulesBoyz
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Now everyone has to send in those questions, not all at once, but occasionally over the next couple of weeks. Maybe mix it up with some really obvious questions as well. Then we can all come back and see what answers we got.
BYE
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/07 02:27:34
Subject: No more RulesBoyz
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Already sent! Should be interesting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/07 13:06:24
Subject: No more RulesBoyz
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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I suggest one of you should start an article in which you can collect and organise the answers to your queries.
Who knows, it may become a useful resource if the replies do not contradict each other.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/07 13:24:56
Subject: No more RulesBoyz
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[MOD]
Madrak Ironhide
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You mean, like for a FAQ?
Sorry for the snark, kill. It would be much easier if we had access to GW's question database.
It sounds like that's what they're trying to build. I sure hope so.
Not that I'm suggesting that anyone attach wires to their crotch, descend from a paneled
ceiling, and retrieve the necessary files from GW HQ. Oh no. Never that.
(Send all applications to malfred[at]dakkadakka)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/07 14:13:22
Subject: No more RulesBoyz
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Collecting the emails and answers will show if they are consistent or not. Either way it will save users from emailing GW again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/07 14:13:42
Subject: No more RulesBoyz
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Sinister Chaos Marine
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I sincerely hope that they have some sort of internal wiki or if nothing else a spreadsheet on a shared drive where these are recorded.
Now if they were smart, they would track the frequency of each question and then [god forbid] publish those common queries on their website and in WD.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/07 15:47:51
Subject: No more RulesBoyz
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[MOD]
Madrak Ironhide
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Crazy talk!
I like my idea better. Not that I'm advocating it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/07 17:21:05
Subject: No more RulesBoyz
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Getting my broom incase there is shenanigans.
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malfred wrote:You mean, like for a FAQ?
Sorry for the snark, kill. It would be much easier if we had access to GW's question database.
It sounds like that's what they're trying to build. I sure hope so.
Not that I'm suggesting that anyone attach wires to their crotch, descend from a paneled
ceiling, and retrieve the necessary files from GW HQ. Oh no. Never that.
(Send all applications to malfred[at]dakkadakka)
I am surprised that everyone thinks this move was to help build a database of questions, or something else to help out with future FAQs.
Coming from a customer service background, I saw it as a way to lower their call volume, and then being able to reduce staffing for cost savings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/07 19:39:07
Subject: No more RulesBoyz
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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We love to dream.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/07 22:42:07
Subject: No more RulesBoyz
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Rather than dreaming, how about helping to test the new service, to help gauge the level of its usefulness for the community?
I got an email back today corroborating answers previously posted in the "You Make Da Call" forum. I'll send a few more, but eventually I'm going to run out of email accounts, and it would be useful to have other people corroborate as well.
Ask about whether Deff Rollas can be used when Ramming, if unit using God of War to pass a morale test is subject to No Retreat!, and a third random question to which the answer is obvious (checking not just consistency, but insight into the rules).
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