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The Valdor is brilliant, by far the best anti-design forgeworld tank yet. The Inquisitor and retinue are failing to excite me.

ShumaGorath wrote:I wouldn't say that the macharius and malcadors are all weak and overcosted. A few of the variants are pretty frightening in my opinion for what they cost.

The Vanquisher Macharius is the only truly viable one, but its secondary weapons are worse than a Russ and its armour isn't much better. Two Russes will do better than a single Macharius, and for that reason alone they're worth about 250-280 points, not their current absurd price tag. The Malcador's have much better weapons than the Macharius tanks, but their armour is a joke and they're stupidly slow. Again. Multiple Russes will do a better job for the same or less cost.

ShumaGorath wrote:How often do the "experimental" rules get changed in the final release?

It happens, but usually not enough. FW's track record with rules isn't good enough to make me think that things will improve significantly. Making the Neutron Cannon Beam thingy AP1 would be nice.

BYE

Holy crap those rules are terrible. I mean I'm used to being penalized for using FW models and their gak rules but man.....

Big phallic guns mean big phallic rules dammit!

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:I'd be tempted to convert into a Tank Girlesque non-Chaotic renegade Tank, with 'Feeling Inadquate?' painted on the Barrell.

No real reason why, I just like wasting my money on daft ideas!

How about, "Money Shot" along the Barrel?

Either one would work - and work well!

ShumaGorath wrote:I wouldn't say that the macharius and malcadors are all weak and overcosted. A few of the variants are pretty frightening in my opinion for what they cost. This thing though needs to drop to maybe 280-300 to be at all reasonable. How often do the "experimental" rules get changed in the final release?

It does happen on occasion, but in this case, anything other than a massive rewrite will not suffice. The weapon needs a 5" blast marker, BS4, AP1 and/or a heavy price drop. Preferably at least three of the above. I think FW is overcosting superheavy tanks more than usual.

I actually wonder how the Baneblade-chassis vehicles ended up with 450, seeing as that is almost reasonable (though the Stormsword is underpowered compared to the Hellhammer).

Love the look of both the Valdor and the =][= (although his retinue is lackluster).

That gunner firing the HS is awesome.

The new inquisitor is quite impressive, whenever I get around to having one in my army he'll be the mini for the job. As to the new tank, I'm all for the asymmetrical design, but something about the gun on the Valdor doesn't sit right with me. It looks a a little too streamlined for a guard weapon but not quite as high tech as you would expect from space marine gear. It doesn't quite seem to 'fit', just my preference though.

Do you think I could procure a Valdor for a Penal Legion?

LOL, probably worst FW rules ever. I like the design a lot, but it's just not worth the cost.

Da Boss wrote:Whenever I see something like that, I think "How the hell do they aim it!"
As a seige cannon that design might work, but for zzapping tanks? Seems unlikely!
Nice detailing on the gubbins at the back though.

Presumably they use the same technology as WWII Jagdpanzers did?

The Inquisitor looks good. The retinue is kinda plain, but OK. I like the look of thtank, but the single sponson is just odd and detracts from the model.

Thw whole design is screwed that's why it's so brilliant.

Love the model.... The rules leave MUCH to be desired. You know what would make this thing worth the points? Two changes, large blast, and partials count as full strength. Boom you then have a tank you would think about taking. Come on, name a time you would not rather have two vanquishers than this giant penis tank?

To be fair, the Penis Tank is made of pure Dildonium.

My my, aren't we feeling inadequate at the sight of this new tank!

That tank is superawesome, and actually not that horrifically expensive. Ah crap, I'm getting me some Forgewrold stuff in the next few months. Oh, and Hector Rex, I have no intention, whatsoever, of EVER fielding that dude in any list I might think to concoct... but I'm so getting him to build and paint and put on a shelf.