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There's a lot of room to move parts between the two forces (they're both Imperial, power armored, and use a lot of the same weapons, after all) but if you're actively thinking about resale I'd keep things cleaner. No rule that you can't paint a squad or two of Sisters just because you want to, after all.

As long as you have a legal list and weapons options are correctly modeled, I'd be totally fine with it.


I honestly don't see why it would be a problem. As long as your army list is legal for a normal SM army, why care about what models are used to represent it? (unless it's in extremely poor taste, which I don't think this idea is)

Hell, on half the models there really isn't a big change anyway. Bolters? Check. Power armor? Check. The only thing you'd be hard up for is plasma weapons, lascannons, missile launchers, and powerfists.

two_heads_talking wrote:As long as you don't try it at a tournament, only the most closed minded wouldn't allow you to do it. Perhaps doing so will cause you to want to start your own 'real' spaz marinez army.. HURR...


It's your hobby, your models and your friends. Don't let us determine what you are going to do with them...

QFT

PS: Lol thats the first time in my life my vote's been a tiemaker

Vaktathi wrote:As long as you have a legal list and weapons options are correctly modeled, I'd be totally fine with it.


I honestly don't see why it would be a problem. As long as your army list is legal for a normal SM army, why care about what models are used to represent it? (unless it's in extremely poor taste, which I don't think this idea is)

Hell, on half the models there really isn't a big change anyway. Bolters? Check. Power armor? Check. The only thing you'd be hard up for is plasma weapons, lascannons, missile launchers, and powerfists.

According to page one, SOB are missing black carapace and a.... penor.

But who is checking right!? cant strip the minis and check

@Luna: If you want to play Sisters as Marines for fun or as proxy, don't let us stop you.

That said, it'll be easier and more thematic to play as Sisters. Plus, I think that Sisters are more interesting than basic SM.

The only problem is that you can't field this for Tournaments (i.e. strangers).

I am a stickler for rules. this isn't 'Nam...

However, I voted 'yes' and the rules back me up here...

This is cut and pasted for the GWGT rules found on their site

Conversions, WYSIWYG, and “Counts As”

The army must be WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get). This means that weapons, armor options, and upgrades chosen from the army list must be shown on characters and a majority of the models in a unit or squad.

Should you wish to field certain models in your army that “count as” something different in your list than the model that was originally intended you need to follow these basic rules: the models must be roughly the same size as those you are substituting them for (eg. you could not use Imperial Guard Ogryn to represent Imperial Guard Conscripts), you must be consistent throughout your army (eg. if both of your Space Marine Dreadnoughts have twin-linked heavy bolters - an option no longer allowed - you could field them both as assault cannons, but not one of them as an assault cannon and the other as twin-linked lascannons), and finally you must be very clear with your opponent prior to the game, going over anything that may cause confusion. It may be appropriate to create a “cheat sheet” for your opponent that has pictures of the units accompanied by a description of the units and it’s equipment.


To clarify... Count Zazz says...

rule 1. Roughly the same size. Marines are on 25mm bases, so are sisters of battle.
rule 2. Consistent application of WSYWIG. Bolters on both, meltas and flamers on both. Accurate weapon swap conversions and clear vehicle types should be easy to understand.
rule 3. Explain your army clearly to your opponent. Endeavor to explain and re-explain your army to your opponent.


So go with mine and GW's blessing. And play those sisters as brothers!

Recklessfable wrote:If you can run a Genesteeler Cult using the Ork Codex in a GT, then there shoudn't be a problem with SOB Astartes.

This. Play it as counts as.

Well, Genestealer cults look nothing like Orks, and more importantly, nothing like any other army in 40k (including Tyranids...that army was unique and awesomely done). SOB look exactly like Sisters, which is a mainstream army already.

I'd be fine with it in friendly games as long as you had WYSIWYG Thunder Hammers and Land Raiders.

Looking at the GS Cult, didn't the guy use IG models as Genestealer cult? He also used tyranid models as his genestealers.

From my read of the counts as and the GS Cult at a GT, sounds like the OP's army would be good to go despite all the "friendly game" only talk that keeps getting mentioned.

The big issue though is that the Sisters have a better codex anyway. Definetly more interesting in terms of gameplay as well.

privateer4hire wrote:Looking at the GS Cult, didn't the guy use IG models as Genestealer cult? He also used tyranid models as his genestealers.

From my read of the counts as and the GS Cult at a GT, sounds like the OP's army would be good to go despite all the "friendly game" only talk that keeps getting mentioned.

uhm your wrong, because GS cult, looked different from other models, even if you say he had genestealers for troops, it had another mix of a dif types of models (Old guardsment, genestealer head people) the main difference is, he had a mixture of different models, so you cant actually confuse it for another army of say, (nids) but waht the OP is talking about is just fully sister but count as space marines, i think this is a deal breaker that GTs wont allow

But as to the OP looks like she wants to sell it rather than play it. then i dont see the relevance of this thread.

enmitee wrote:

privateer4hire wrote:Looking at the GS Cult, didn't the guy use IG models as Genestealer cult? He also used tyranid models as his genestealers.

From my read of the counts as and the GS Cult at a GT, sounds like the OP's army would be good to go despite all the "friendly game" only talk that keeps getting mentioned.

uhm your wrong, because GS cult, looked different from other models, even if you say he had genestealers for troops, it had another mix of a dif types of models (Old guardsment, genestealer head people) the main difference is, he had a mixture of different models, so you cant actually confuse it for another army of say, (nids) but waht the OP is talking about is just fully sister but count as space marines, i think this is a deal breaker that GTs wont allow

But as to the OP looks like she wants to sell it rather than play it. then i dont see the relevance of this thread.

80% of my hobby (fun )is planning / building the army . so its relevant as in i find it fun to do small conversions.
i dont play anymore, so the last 20% comes to painting.

and when thats all gone, all ihave left is to either stare at the complete model, or sell it.

which is why im worried about not able to sell it if no one wants for example a "sisters of battle redeemer , predator " etc etc.

If your problem is the vehicles, why not just convert the vehicles in a way that, their paint scheme would both fit with an all sisters(theme) or an SM army, so they have multiple use, instead of commiting the vehicle to a SoB theme that may otherwise detract other players from playing an SOB count as SM.

enmitee wrote:

privateer4hire wrote:Looking at the GS Cult, didn't the guy use IG models as Genestealer cult? He also used tyranid models as his genestealers.

From my read of the counts as and the GS Cult at a GT, sounds like the OP's army would be good to go despite all the "friendly game" only talk that keeps getting mentioned.

uhm your wrong, because GS cult, looked different from other models, even if you say he had genestealers for troops, it had another mix of a dif types of models (Old guardsment, genestealer head people) the main difference is, he had a mixture of different models, so you cant actually confuse it for another army of say, (nids) but waht the OP is talking about is just fully sister but count as space marines, i think this is a deal breaker that GTs wont allow

But as to the OP looks like she wants to sell it rather than play it. then i dont see the relevance of this thread.

uhm, you're wrong. Here's a little snipped quote from 2008 GT rules:
"Should you wish to field certain models in your army that “count as” something different in your list than the model that was originally intended you need to follow these basic rules: the models must be roughly the same size as those you are substituting them for (eg. you could not use Imperial Guard Ogryn to represent Imperial Guard Conscripts), you must be consistent throughout your army (eg. if both of your Space Marine Dreadnoughts have twin-linked heavy bolters - an option no longer allowed - you could field them both as assault cannons, but not one of them as an assault cannon and the other as twin-linked lascannons), and finally you must be very clear with your opponent prior to the game, going over anything that may cause confusion. It may be appropriate to create a “cheat sheet” for your opponent that has pictures of the units accompanied by a description of the units and it’s equipment."

SOBs are roughly same size as SMs. They have bolters. Sounds like the OP could make them use bolters and other appropriate weapons. Therefore, not a deal breaker for GT.

LunaHound wrote:

Vaktathi wrote:As long as you have a legal list and weapons options are correctly modeled, I'd be totally fine with it.


I honestly don't see why it would be a problem. As long as your army list is legal for a normal SM army, why care about what models are used to represent it? (unless it's in extremely poor taste, which I don't think this idea is)

Hell, on half the models there really isn't a big change anyway. Bolters? Check. Power armor? Check. The only thing you'd be hard up for is plasma weapons, lascannons, missile launchers, and powerfists.

According to page one, SOB are missing black carapace and a.... penor.

But who is checking right!? cant strip the minis and check

Don't forget it's a massive, augmented penor. With a powerfield.

Seriously though, if you're going to paint up awesome looking sisters it'd be a shame not to play them as sisters IMO.