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Nightbringer can also choose to blow the melee target out of combat , leaving the whole necron army glaring angrily at you.

Skulltaker has INT 5 and Str 4-5, with a WS of 7. Normally this would mean (on the charge) he gets 5-6 which hit on 3, and then he would need a 4+ to rend, which would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 2-3 wounds. The Nightbringer has INT 4 so all this would take place before he got to go. If the Nightbringer makes his saves then Skulltaker goes SPLAT as the Nightbringer fights back.

erm, so you say.
skulltakers attacks are rending on a 4+, all rending wounds cause instant death to any non vehicle.
from what ive been told nightbringer isnt immune to instant death, so on the charge skulltaker could kill him pretty easily.

Lootas do a pretty good job of taking the Nightbringer out, in my experience anyways.

My mathhammer says that Skulltaker has a 60% chance of taking out the Nightbringer on the charge. Which isn't a slam dunk but for 140 vs 360 points, it's awesome.

JD21290 wrote:

Skulltaker has INT 5 and Str 4-5, with a WS of 7. Normally this would mean (on the charge) he gets 5-6 which hit on 3, and then he would need a 4+ to rend, which would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 2-3 wounds. The Nightbringer has INT 4 so all this would take place before he got to go. If the Nightbringer makes his saves then Skulltaker goes SPLAT as the Nightbringer fights back.

erm, so you say.
skulltakers attacks are rending on a 4+, all rending wounds cause instant death to any non vehicle.
from what ive been told nightbringer isnt immune to instant death, so on the charge skulltaker could kill him pretty easily.

Him and anyone else still gets a INvul save vs the rend hit, which the Nightbringer has a 4+

LunaHound wrote:
Nightbringer can also choose to blow the melee target out of combat , leaving the whole necron army glaring angrily at you.

Not if the target has STR 4+

@ragewind

to your mathhammer the nightbringer will take 2-3 wounds in which he will fail an average of 1 or 2. Which means, we have a headless nightbringer before he attacks.

@Lunahound
I was expecting the girl to just fall to the ground after that endless spinning.

Yes I understand that the Nightbringer may die, but he may not. My advice is to use the Deceiver if at all.

So then,

The way you propose to deal with the nightbringer is to:
1) run the unreliable deepstriking chaos demons army just in case you run into someone fielding him
2) bring along skulltaker
3) hope that deployment will bring these two ICs into close proximity
4) rely on a roughly even chance of either being destroyed in CC

Pardon me if I giggle...

interesting, seems the c'tan aren't as invincible as they seem

Melta & nullzone do the trick for marines.

Budda 09 wrote:interesting, seems the c'tan aren't as invincible as they seem

The Nightbringer is a unique character. He can be easily beaten by strange ways (snipers, looters, skulltakers) but theres a low chance you will run into these units. In term of a normal game, there is a low chance you will meet any unit capable of harming the Nightbringer. There are "loophole" units that can wreck him, but compared to most armys, he is one of THE most powerful characters.

So yes, he isnt unbeatable, but needs specialised situations to die.

As a previous Necron player, I tried and tried to make the Nightbringer work. The best I ever did with it was a tie, mostly lost though. Almost everyone just ignored him and stayed 12.1" away.

Worst death was when an horrible Space Marine player wounded it with a single Attack Bike's Heavy Bolter. Of course I failed the save. Next turn it tied to the same Attack Bike.

Best death was when a Tyranid player had a huge squad of Gaunts jacked up with strength, spit attack, and many other upgrades. He eventually killed him with spits, but then when the Nightbringer exploded I rolled well and killed all the remaining Gaunts. The guy just looked at me and said that those Gaunts cost more than the Nightbringer. Ha!

From Space Marine perspective:

1) Sternguard + Hellfire
2) Librarian + Nullzone plus decent volume of fire
3) Snipers
4) Random AT weapons

Honestly though I'd just avoid him, unless there was a pressing reason to take him out and it wouldn't affect your plans (i.e., you wanted to move Sternguard in that general direction and Nightbringer was in the way, or you had a decent number of snipers sitting on an objective within range). I don't see any reason why a 10 man Sternguard squad would not be able to rapid-fire hellfire rounds, put ~11 wounds on him. That should be enough to kill him in one round.