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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/16 21:59:39
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Rampaging Furioso Blood Angel Dreadnought
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Seems like "I shot a crackhead in the foot once ZOWIE look at me!!" is the real answer to the meaning of life, the universe, and everything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/16 22:00:51
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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1. Go medival on their asses
2. If I happen to have my dog wift me... Well no need to feed her
3. Call the cops
4. Continue on wift my day
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Lenge leve Norge, måtte hun altidd være fri
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/16 22:05:59
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Two women attacking me, I'm not likely to worry too much about.
I live in England, so I don't carry guns(they're kind of illegal here), but since I live in a rough area, and grew up in Staines, I carry a knuckleduster, and know how to use it. Getting assualted on the street by random men on a regular basis tends to give one good reflexes and high pain threshold in a melee.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/16 22:48:00
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Ketara wrote:Two women attacking me, I'm not likely to worry too much about.
I live in England, so I don't carry guns(they're kind of illegal here), but since I live in a rough area, and grew up in Staines, I carry a knuckleduster, and know how to use it. Getting assualted on the street by random men on a regular basis tends to give one good reflexes and high pain threshold in a melee.
Or get a knife...I hear talk about a "knife culture" in the UK, so are they limiting those now?
Incidentally, for some odd reason knife laws are more restrictive than gun laws in some US states. For instance, switchblades are illegal in Tennessee, but "butterfly" knives are legal. The opposite is the case in Georgia. Tennessee also has laws restricting blade length in a knife you're carrying. I believe ballistic knives are illegal across the US, but not handguns, which I find odd.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/17 01:39:24
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Switchblades are illegal here too, as well as knives above a certain length. Plus, if you get stopped and searched, and they find a knife, they'll take you in, if you have a knuckleduster, and say you're a martial artist, they don't mind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/17 01:39:53
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Grignard wrote:Ketara wrote:Two women attacking me, I'm not likely to worry too much about.
I live in England, so I don't carry guns(they're kind of illegal here), but since I live in a rough area, and grew up in Staines, I carry a knuckleduster, and know how to use it. Getting assualted on the street by random men on a regular basis tends to give one good reflexes and high pain threshold in a melee.
Or get a knife...I hear talk about a "knife culture" in the UK, so are they limiting those now?
Incidentally, for some odd reason knife laws are more restrictive than gun laws in some US states. For instance, switchblades are illegal in Tennessee, but "butterfly" knives are legal. The opposite is the case in Georgia. Tennessee also has laws restricting blade length in a knife you're carrying. I believe ballistic knives are illegal across the US, but not handguns, which I find odd.
It's easier to track handguns than it is knives, at least from what I've heard from a forensic investigator.
But, yeah.
Personally, I think the whole reason behind knife laws being more restrictive in the US is that you don't see as many planned killings done with knives, at least in the general population. In prison? Yeah, stabbings are a lot more common in that area. Most people seem to prefer to kill with guns.
I mean, maybe I'm completely wrong in all aspects, but I don't see many stabbings making the news lately, at least that don't seem to be heat of the moment deals(man walks in on wife with another man, etc).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/17 01:56:36
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Wicked Warp Spider
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Kanluwen wrote:Grignard wrote:Ketara wrote:Two women attacking me, I'm not likely to worry too much about.
I live in England, so I don't carry guns(they're kind of illegal here), but since I live in a rough area, and grew up in Staines, I carry a knuckleduster, and know how to use it. Getting assualted on the street by random men on a regular basis tends to give one good reflexes and high pain threshold in a melee.
Or get a knife...I hear talk about a "knife culture" in the UK, so are they limiting those now?
Incidentally, for some odd reason knife laws are more restrictive than gun laws in some US states. For instance, switchblades are illegal in Tennessee, but "butterfly" knives are legal. The opposite is the case in Georgia. Tennessee also has laws restricting blade length in a knife you're carrying. I believe ballistic knives are illegal across the US, but not handguns, which I find odd.
It's easier to track handguns than it is knives, at least from what I've heard from a forensic investigator.
But, yeah.
Personally, I think the whole reason behind knife laws being more restrictive in the US is that you don't see as many planned killings done with knives, at least in the general population. In prison? Yeah, stabbings are a lot more common in that area. Most people seem to prefer to kill with guns.
I mean, maybe I'm completely wrong in all aspects, but I don't see many stabbings making the news lately, at least that don't seem to be heat of the moment deals(man walks in on wife with another man, etc).
I don't know, I don't watch the news. I'm not seeing how that is associated with knife laws being *more* restrictive though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/17 02:14:31
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Laws don't always necessarily relate to the amount of crime involved.
For example, katanas were outlawed here after a particularly brutal murder between chavs involving one, regardless of the fact that knives and other weapons are involved in many thousands more murders per year.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/17 17:46:37
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Cheese Elemental wrote:I shot a burglar in the foot. I easily incapacitated him an he's been locked away.
Fetterkey wrote:Cheese Elemental wrote:I've been shot between my lungs before.
Cheese Elemental wrote:I've once been forced to shoot someone after they broke into my house.
No, you haven't.
Cheese Elemental wrote:The only bad injury I ever had was when I hit my head on the car boot door.
Cheese Elemental's profile wrote:Age: 15
Cheese, I wouldnt start this load of bull again in yet another thread.
OT:
If this happened to me:
A: I see two people demanding that I hand over my wallet that are Armed with Bats..
B: Put my back to a wall or something so that they cant get around behind me... plus this keeps both of them to my front.
C: I comply to hand over said wallet....
D: reach into my pocket and pending how I armed myself that day I:
1: reach into pocket and draw my .32 Acp from my wallet holster and put a controlled pair center mass of the nearest ARMED attacker. I would then tell the one armed with fists to "Get on the ground now! I will shoot you if you do not comply!" If she fails to comply I will repeat.... failure again and I will put a pair center mass without question.
2: Put left hand out in front as palm out. This to them will look like im going "No dont hurt me" but in reality its to keep them at arms length from me and if they wind up to take a swing I can lurch forward and grab them/stop em. And with my right hand ill reach around to my back pocket where I keep my real wallet and draw from the small of my back either my .38 Taurus Ultralight with +P Wadcutters or my Wilson Compact .45 Acp with +P HP and follow the steps above. Shoot the armed one first and try to get the other to comply without harm.
In my state, A pair of people walking up to you armed with a Baseball bat demanding your wallet is enough to legally shoot and kill them. I will spend a night or two in jail until I go before a judge for a prelim hearing and the case is thrown out as blatent self defence.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/17 23:17:22
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Grignard wrote:
I don't know, I don't watch the news. I'm not seeing how that is associated with knife laws being *more* restrictive though.
You mean like being able to trace handguns based off who owns specific models of them, legally, within an area, gunpowder residue tests, etc?
I mean, it's not like there's a knife residue test
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/17 23:22:13
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Wicked Warp Spider
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Kanluwen wrote:Grignard wrote:
I don't know, I don't watch the news. I'm not seeing how that is associated with knife laws being *more* restrictive though.
You mean like being able to trace handguns based off who owns specific models of them, legally, within an area, gunpowder residue tests, etc?
I mean, it's not like there's a knife residue test 
Oh ok, so you're reasoning from the fact that they're more difficult to trace. Just didn't catch that one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/18 00:38:22
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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I am a 220lb former marine, still sporting the haircut. In short, I look very much like a police officer. I highly doubt anyone is going to try and mug me. Criminals rarely attempt to mug people that can fight back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/18 00:42:46
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Killer Klaivex
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Unless they have lightsabers, laser eyes, balls of steel, and powerfists with twin-linked built-in assault cannons.
We get lots of them around here. They mug people like me and don't afraid of anything.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/18 01:01:16
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
Ontario
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Yes but your a 15 year old kid.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/18 01:15:40
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Killer Klaivex
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Correction: I am a 15 year old kid who has shot someone in the foot.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/18 03:08:49
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Cheese Elemental wrote:Correction: I am a 15 year old kid who has shot someone in the foot.
Uh huh.... and you were also shot between the lungs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/18 04:17:41
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Killer Klaivex
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That other time I was bluffing. I tend to um... inflate my claims a bit. OK, so I didn't intend to shoot this guy in the foot, I just freaked and shot without looking because it was a dark room and he moved really suddenly.
I felt really bad afterwards. Went to see him in hospital and found out he'd probably never walk right again. Neither of us pressed charges.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/18 04:36:50
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Rampaging Furioso Blood Angel Dreadnought
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So you lied. Nice. Because the place to do that is in writing on a place where people can hunt down your claims. I was wondering how you shrugged that one off, especially at such a young age. I mean, bullets of any caliber that hit the chest tend to do very Not Good things.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/18 06:08:51
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Killer Klaivex
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You can get away with anything on the interwebs. For all we know, yakface could be an immortal dictator plotting to destroy democracy. Also: I used to have a huge problem with lying. I mean, I would lie about everything. I'm still trying to straighten things out.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/18 06:12:33
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Cheese Elemental wrote:You can get away with anything on the interwebs. For all we know, yakface could be an immortal dictator plotting to destroy democracy.
Also: I used to have a huge problem with lying. I mean, I would lie about everything. I'm still trying to straighten things out.
Cheese Elemental wrote:
I do have a pretty interesting life according to other people, but I don't see what's so great about it. Let's see, what's happened (nothing interesting on the list)...
-I watched my dad bleed out on the floor (he died).
-I accidentally shot a burglar in the foot (the dogs would have caught him anyway)
-I've accidentally set off my own gun several times, putting holes in the walls and narrowly missing my foot.
That's all I can think of actually. Most of the time, life is pretty boring. Church is fun though. I get to do stuff with the youth group.
It would appears that your lies know no bounds.
At this point it would be best for you to just to stop makeing up these wild stories. You have no credibility at this point.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/18 06:15:27
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Killer Klaivex
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The second part is completely true. I swear to God. I wouldn't lie about stuff like that. Why the blue feth would I lie about my dad dying horribly?
Have you ever shot or seriously injured someone? There's a feeling of nausea after it, and you feel really dirty, like you really need to wash your hands, but it never comes off. It's a horrible feeling that I never want to experience again.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/18 06:28:59
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
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Cheese Elemental wrote:The second part is completely true. I swear to God. I wouldn't lie about stuff like that. Why the blue feth would I lie about my dad dying horribly?
Have you ever shot or seriously injured someone? There's a feeling of nausea after it, and you feel really dirty, like you really need to wash your hands, but it never comes off. It's a horrible feeling that I never want to experience again.
Dont worry about feeling bad about it , be happy about it. Because with guilt, you know you arnt doing it for fun , its for a very self preservation cause.
So accept it , move on with a smile!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/18 06:36:28
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Cheese Elemental wrote:The second part is completely true. I swear to God. I wouldn't lie about stuff like that. Why the blue feth would I lie about my dad dying horribly?
Have you ever shot or seriously injured someone? There's a feeling of nausea after it, and you feel really dirty, like you really need to wash your hands, but it never comes off. It's a horrible feeling that I never want to experience again.
"Out, out damn spot!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/18 06:50:46
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Cheese Elemental wrote:The second part is completely true. I swear to God. I wouldn't lie about stuff like that. Why the blue feth would I lie about my dad dying horribly?
Have you ever shot or seriously injured someone? There's a feeling of nausea after it, and you feel really dirty, like you really need to wash your hands, but it never comes off. It's a horrible feeling that I never want to experience again.
Yeah Kid as a matter of fact I have. I have a few confirmed/un-confirmed kills under my belt from spending 25 months in Iraq as a 19Delta.
The only thing I felt was the recoil of my M4 as it spat 5.56 downrange or a slight bump as the Stryker turned a car into a sub compact.
I have pictures, but I think Frazz would have to draw the line at dead bodies being posted up for all to see.
Greebynog wrote:Cheese Elemental wrote:The second part is completely true. I swear to God. I wouldn't lie about stuff like that. Why the blue feth would I lie about my dad dying horribly?
Have you ever shot or seriously injured someone? There's a feeling of nausea after it, and you feel really dirty, like you really need to wash your hands, but it never comes off. It's a horrible feeling that I never want to experience again.
"Out, out damn spot!"
HI BILLY MAYS HERE........!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/18 11:27:48
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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jp400 wrote: Yeah Kid as a matter of fact I have. I have a few confirmed/un-confirmed kills under my belt from spending 25 months in Iraq as a 19Delta. The only thing I felt was the recoil of my M4 as it spat 5.56 downrange or a slight bump as the Stryker turned a car into a sub compact. I have pictures, but I think Frazz would have to draw the line at dead bodies being posted up for all to see. WOW did you really? thats amazing! I hope it was worth it! Did you secure the oil fields..... I mean find the WMD? hows this for a self defence scenario: #Someones got a big gun... #Attack them #Oh... they didn't have a big gun! #Well... lets just take their wallet anyway!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/18 12:33:03
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Actually this occurred in Houston. We invented overkill here. Thats why its so funny.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/18 12:37:02
Subject: Self defense scenario for you
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Cheese Elemental wrote:You can get away with anything on the interwebs. For all we know, yakface could be an immortal dictator plotting to destroy democracy.
Also: I used to have a huge problem with lying. I mean, I would lie about everything. I'm still trying to straighten things out.
He's not? He told me he was, and here I've been following him around like a devoted puppy all this time...
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/18 12:42:24
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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jp400 wrote:Cheese Elemental wrote:The second part is completely true. I swear to God. I wouldn't lie about stuff like that. Why the blue feth would I lie about my dad dying horribly?
Have you ever shot or seriously injured someone? There's a feeling of nausea after it, and you feel really dirty, like you really need to wash your hands, but it never comes off. It's a horrible feeling that I never want to experience again.
Yeah Kid as a matter of fact I have. I have a few confirmed/un-confirmed kills under my belt from spending 25 months in Iraq as a 19Delta.
The only thing I felt was the recoil of my M4 as it spat 5.56 downrange or a slight bump as the Stryker turned a car into a sub compact.
I have pictures, but I think Frazz would have to draw the line at dead bodies being posted up for all to see.
Greebynog wrote:Cheese Elemental wrote:The second part is completely true. I swear to God. I wouldn't lie about stuff like that. Why the blue feth would I lie about my dad dying horribly?
Have you ever shot or seriously injured someone? There's a feeling of nausea after it, and you feel really dirty, like you really need to wash your hands, but it never comes off. It's a horrible feeling that I never want to experience again.
"Out, out damn spot!"
HI BILLY MAYS HERE........!
Yea. Lets not do that. Billy Mays is horrible enough.
Note the Cheese Elemental. You're dealing with people who have vastly different life experiences. We have several vets here, other people who have been through 'interesting" lives, and of course Mad Dok Grotsnik or people who have met Mad Dok Grotsnik (  ).
Even worse some of posters are married men, with teenagers. We are not afraid to die...
"When does the hurting stop???"
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/18 13:04:06
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Killer Klaivex
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The school guidance officer thinks my traumatic life and sporadic strange and dark mood swings came from seeing my dad bleed and die after having a carving knife ripped through his throat.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/18 13:15:24
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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My school guidance counselor tried to analyze me once. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti sp.sp.sp.sp...
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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