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Fireknife Shas'el





Reedsburg, WI

@btemple0: Thanks man, I had heard of baking soda and actually ran into this tutorial about a month ago. I plan on trying it out. Of course, I am a bit worried about what might happen if the base with the baking soda ever got wet?

http://www.coolminiornot.com/articles/content.php?1323-how-to-make-nice-snow-bases

@grey_death: Welcome to the thread. I actually have a big old container of the Woodland Scenics stuff in my cubboard. I am pretty sure I used that on the bikes (I can't remember for sure though as it has been months since I did any basing). Maybe its the glue? Do you use GW PVA glue or a different brand?

Have you tried the baking soda technique and if so what happens if the models are exposed to water (rain).

Sorry to here about your game, as a nids player I know how it feels to have your tenderly painted models mercilessly wiped off the board. Post a link to your thread when you post your pics of your army.

Next up for my swift claws...the gold!

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You cover it with a matte varnish after you are done working with the base.

Happiness is Mandatory!

 
   
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Madison, WI

The job you did on that wolf's head is phenomenal wyomingfox... very life-like. Nice work!

Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

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Illustrator






North Carolina

I've never used baking soda myself.

As to the glue I use, it's just Elmer's White Glue.

-Aaron
Illustration and Design

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Fireknife Shas'el





Reedsburg, WI

@Gitsplitta: Thanks for the compliment. TBH, the light fur tone was pretty easy to conceptualize. It was the dark grey fur that had me worried. I struggled with whether or not I should highlight the grey fur with lighter tones and ended up deciding to further shade the centers of the dark area instead (what I refered to a reverse highlight since typically you shade the crevices and highlight towards the edges). I also got lucky and guessed the right colors on the first go around. I did make sure to test it out on one of the wolf tails first, just as a precaution. It would have been horrific to have messed up one of the wolf heads at that late stage in the painting process.

@Grey Death: Guess who has two legs and is heading to Pamida...me!

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Powerful Spawning Champion





Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Your work is beautiful. That wolf head is amazing!

   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Madison, WI

I feel for you w-fox... there are still several things in my painting where I have to swallow really hard before I get the nerve to start them. Every time I do the camo pattern on one of my Tranquility snipers I risk screwing up days of wet blending...

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Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

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Fireknife Shas'el





Reedsburg, WI

@Bunny Girl: I appreciate the kind words.

@btemple0: Yeah, that sounds like it may work...I suppose you would have to put on several coats to make sure everything is sufficiantly covered though. Oh, well...I got some junk models I can experiment on.

@Gitsplitta: So that's your technique...yeah, I completely understand. I experimented with Wet Blending on several of my nids...such as the back plates on this guy.



Wet blending is very hard to make corrections if you goof up at a later stage when applying details like cammo patterns. Thus, I usually stick to layering/blending. Your persistance with wet blending is a testiment to your skill.

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Illustrator






North Carolina

Here are my finished wolves btw:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/341813.page

We'll have to feed off each others projects

-Aaron
Illustration and Design

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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Madison, WI

That Nid carapace reminds me of a certain type of shell that we would go looking for when I used to visit my grandmother down in Sarasota Florida... Don't know if that was your inspiration but beautiful job none-the-less.

There are still a couple of things I'm freaked out by... weathering and OSL mainly. My OSL attempts just look like messy painting, which is a damn shame as the effect of the technique can be stunning to say the least.

I'm trying to get up the guts to do grey_death's sponge weathering technique on the two razorbacks I just finished painting (the mob demands it) but I'm having trouble taking that last step & putting paint (sponge) to model.


Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

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Reedsburg, WI

@Grey Death: Very nice and good job on the geometric designs. They can be a pain in the butt. For my previous Swift Claws I painted the light color as a background and then, using a pencil, lightly ploted out the points where the lines for the shape intersect and connected the dots. After painting the darker colors, I then erased any visible pencil markings and went onto the highlighting stage.

@Gitsplitta: Jeesh only two . I fear weathering, OSL, NMM, and air-brushing. Someone asked for me to try some weathering as well, but the idea of making my freshly painted models look worn, chipped and beaten goes against my core. I will have to eventually give it a try (in a light sense). I bought the FW Masterclass a while back for this reason and it had some good ideas, though many of them required an airbrush.

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Madison, WI

Uugh... I forgot about NMM... add that to my list. I am getting comfortable with airbrushing though. Not too tough but it helps to have lots of simple stuff to practice on to build up your confidence before tackling gradients and such. NMM is OK to experiment with because usually you're experimenting on say... a sword, so if you screw it up you just re-paint the sword. Problem with OSL & weather is you do those over the top of a fully painted figure and if you screw the pooch on those you're looking at a major re-paint!


Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

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Reedsburg, WI

Well, I am not dead yet . Actually, I have been working my tail off the past several months on rebuilding my Tyranid army once I joined a Summer Campaign Escalation League. Pretty much had to start from scratch since 5th edition took a massive crap on my past army list...alas warriors, we knew thee well.

Anyways, I have taken a small break and finished the gold on my SW. Basically, my technique is:

Step 1: 1:1 ratio of scorched brown and glorious gold as the base coat
Step 2: glorious gold as the midtone, leaving reeces from previous step exposed
Step 3: polished gold as the 1st highlight hitting all the edges
Step 4: Devlan Mud and Gryphon Sepia Wash
Step 5: mithral silver as the final highlight

In the case large areas of painted gold (like in the WGBL pictured previously), I add layers working up ransitions between step 2 and 3 and steps 4 and 5. Anyways, pictures of the steps shown below.


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Madison, WI

End result is excellent wfox. I'm not familiar with "glorious gold", who makes it?

Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

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Reedsburg, WI

Heah Gitsplitta. Glorious Gold is made by Vallejo as part of its Game Color line. It is the darker of the two golds they produce. Most of the paints I use are from Vallejo as they tend to keep longer.

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Madison, WI

I have a lot of Their colors as well, just not familiar with that one. Thanks!

Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

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Reedsburg, WI

Update Time: Just finished with the yellows, browns, and greens! Here are compiled pics of the progress so far

First up the ATTACK BIKE:


Next LONG FANGS:


Lastly the SWIFT CLAW and WGBL

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Madison, WI

Very nice! Excellent work on the yellow.

Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

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Reedsburg, WI

Thanks Gitsplitta, yellow is such a pain in the arse to paint...as you know too well . Definately the most time consuming and frustrating step.

I tried using Vallejo "heavy" Ochre (similar to GW foundation line) for a base, hoping that it would give good coverage and allow me to skip a few steps. It didn't, in fact it streaked and left bald spots just as bad as the standard yellows. In addition, the Ocher comes out looking very chalky. Big dissappointment.

So I did it the old fashioned way. Lots of thin layers building up from beastial brown to sun yellow. I think I have something like 8 layers of gold and sun yellow combined.

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Madison, WI

wyomingfox wrote:Thanks Gitsplitta, yellow is such a pain in the arse to paint...as you know too well . Definately the most time consuming and frustrating step.

I tried using Vallejo "heavy" Ochre (similar to GW foundation line) for a base, hoping that it would give good coverage and allow me to skip a few steps. It didn't, in fact it streaked and left bald spots just as bad as the standard yellows. In addition, the Ocher comes out looking very chalky. Big dissappointment.

So I did it the old fashioned way. Lots of thin layers building up from beastial brown to sun yellow. I think I have something like 8 layers of gold and sun yellow combined.


That's pretty much how I do it. Though a white under-layer helps the yellow pop (then you wash with sepia to get your shades rather than starting dark). If you use too dark a brown underneath and don't get enough yellow on top, you get a greenish shade which is most unhealthy looking.

Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

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Reedsburg, WI

Green shade...Yuk! Wonder why that would be?

Can't say that has happened yet. The problems I regularly encounter is a buildup of rings around a bald spot where the yellow pigments accumulate due to poor coverage. I would have to look at my yellow recipe, but if memory serves me well, my buildup goes: Beastial Brown -> Filthy Brown -> Gold Yellow -> Sun Yellow.

So your recipe is: White Base; Gold Yellow; Sepia Wash; Gold Yellow -> Sun Yellow?

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Madison, WI

Yes, and then an old color called Bad Moon Yellow as the final highlight. I use really watered down versions of each tint (and use intermediate mixes of course), so it's probably 3 or 4 layers of each tone, but they go really quickly and you can be pretty sloppy about it. There's just a lot of drying time involved. Makes for a nice yellow though, very eye catching.

Much as it is really easy to use my airbrush to get a good yellow, I think my brush painted figures actually look better. With the camo pattern added over the top, you can't really tell them apart... but if I had to do a stand-alone yellow, I'd definitely stick to brushing.

Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

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Reedsburg, WI

Vallejo still makes a "Moon Yellow"...in case GW discontinued thiers.

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Madison, WI

I still have my old bottle of Bad Moon Yellow... which still works after God-only-knows how many years, but I think it is discontinued... so I picked up a bottle of the Vallejo as an emergency back-up supply.

Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

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Surfing the Tervigon Wave...on a baby.

Not meaning to interrupt the discussion on the awesome of Bad Moon Yellow (yes, I used it on my Paladins) I will say that I like the smoothness of the grey and the highlights!

The yellow and red as well are both very vibrant. Looking forward to more of the pooches!


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Madison, WI

That reminds me... I did want to mention that I really like the use of the red on the bikes. The choice of surfaces to paint with the red lends a sleek, chopper-like line in the middle of a very blocky model... well done wyfox!

Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

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Reedsburg, WI

Haha, I am almost 100% positive that I stole the idea of red upholstry from a picture of a Golden Deamon Winner in the 3rd edition SW codex. I think I still have that codex, so I will check tonight. Of course my first bikes that I painted back in 1998 were baby blue (space wolf grey)with a red upholstry. They still looked pretty sharp (sorry no pics available)...but I wanted a darker color scheme, as well as a standard color scheme across the army...so I started repainting everything shadow grey.


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DarkStarSabre wrote:Not meaning to interrupt the discussion on the awesome of Bad Moon Yellow (yes, I used it on my Paladins) I will say that I like the smoothness of the grey and the highlights! The yellow and red as well are both very vibrant. Looking forward to more of the pooches!


Interupt away . Thanks for the compliments. I checked out your paint blog as I was trying to wrap my head around yellow Pallidins (Grey Knights). Damn are you a proliffic painter. You need to take more individual shots though. Group shots only show so much due to the distance. Love the Typhus model by the way.

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Reedsburg, WI

So, for those interested, I am starting to post pictures of my WIP on my Nids which can be found HERE

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Surfing the Tervigon Wave...on a baby.

wyomingfox wrote:Interupt away . Thanks for the compliments. I checked out your paint blog as I was trying to wrap my head around yellow Pallidins (Grey Knights). Damn are you a proliffic painter. You need to take more individual shots though. Group shots only show so much due to the distance. Love the Typhus model by the way.


You'll love the Death Guard when I get to them. And yes, more individual shots will start following as I get to them.

Glad to compliment good stuff anyhow. Makes sense to do so.

WIP on the Nids is nice too. Whole nid scheme is nice. Makes me jealous with my simple scheme.


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Lovely, lovely lovely! damn nice wolves! I actually am very fond of your original purple grey ones! they just remind me of the really early wolves I've seen around! you have a very nice clean style and the highlighting is very neat and looks great on everything you've done so far, i'l most definitely be checking back regularly to see how things are progressing! makes me wish i had of done more with my wolf guard terminators in my gallery :-( but you have actually inspired me to buy some space wolf parts and a couple of bitspudlo's thunderwolves (critters) and spend some time doing them up with some care and attention! sw's were my first army as well and will always be a love of mine although my Marines Exemplar are taking up all my time now!

I also have to agree with everyone here, your wolf head is awesomely done! but I like the way you've painted the long fangs and weapons, reminds me of the old editions as well. keep it up please this is one great army build! I am now subscribed.


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