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garret wrote:dont really care
there mostly increasing by the 2 or 4 dollers so whats the big deal?
it may go down later any way when the recessions over

Funniest Dakka post ever read. and Im serious o_o

H.B.M.C. wrote:For those of us who never buy GW at retail, and always buy from discounters? Who cares... I'll still be getting 30% off.

But wouldnt that cancel out the discount price ( if you compare it via the price increase )

H.B.M.C. wrote:For those of us who never buy GW at retail, and always buy from discounters? Who cares... I'll still be getting 30% off.

It matters for those who have a great FLGS and support it. Without our support, they don't exist. Great place to get 20+ GW fans together on a Saturday afternoon. Heck, our last RTT alone had 32 players.

I think there is a fundamental flaw in the GW sales model.

They believe someone who has built their army is done, they believe older gamers built a single army then stop buying.

I would strongly suggest if the price of minis was healthier, following discussion with several of my gaming group, we would all own several armies and continue to shell out cash for more as an ongoing budgeted amount of our wages. I would happily finish one army and move onto collecting another whilst tweaking the previous with various new purchases.

Spending several thousand pounds on little toy soldiers isn't the issue, it's spending £20 on ten plastic soldiers I can't stomach. I am a confirmed nerd, I love the minis and the fluff and painting and so on, I would continue to collect and play and paint till I'm old n grey but its the individual price of a miniature and the shouting voice in my head that says 'This.Isn't.Worth.The.Price.'

I'll keep buying 95% of my models used. I do buy stuff in my FLGS just to support it. It just sucks that I have to support GW and their exorbitant prices at the same time.

It matters for those who have a great FLGS and support it. Without our support, they don't exist.

Well, both of my FLGSs carry products that I buy other than GW stuff. So I do not feel remotely guilty about not buying my GW models from them.

TR

The only thing so far that makes me go "Oh... my.... god....." is the Ork bikers box. $30 for 3 bikes is a bit on the are you frikking kidding me!?!? side. But like said previously, Ebay and mine are made from AOBR koptas so really ebay would be the smartest place to go for me

Dealing with the price increase, or dealing with the moaning and whining about the price increase?

There's more noise about paying an extra 50 bucks a year to GW, than there is about paying an extra 50 bucks a week at the gaspump.

I am handling the hobby increase by not buyijng new armies, and cutting add ons to other armies to a bare minimum usually bought online.

This policy has served me well for many years, the last time I actually spent a sizable sum in a GW store was in the 90's.

The more prices squeeze, and the more even net traders have to go up the less I buy. I still have unpainted armies, as do many here so why buy more.

Apocalypse tempts me, but that is about it, and most of the super heavies I am collecting are scratchbuild projects or Armorcast or second hand purchases.

GW has never lowered prices,

They lowered them in 2007 in Canada because we could simply walk across the border to the states and buy them 30% off at retail. At discount it was more like 45% what we had to pay here. It was atrocious. Now we pay about 5-7% more I think when you take the exchange rate into play. Though thats the only time I have ever seen them lower prices, and that really ticked off my not so FLGS because he had to sell stuff at a lower price than when he bought it.

I only buy Flames of War from my FLGS cause hes a douche... I get all of my GW stuff from the GW store that is about an hour and a half from my house.

I'll still buy from my LGS just so I have a place to play. I'll be buying Warmachine though. I really don't need any more 40k stuff, except maybe some more foam trays to store all the models.

Fantasy is dead to me at this point. I picked up my 5 chaos knights for $20 so I'm happy.

They've actually just cut me off from buying new EVER.
I'm a student, and as things stood until now, I'd buy about 20% of my stuff from ebay, 60% at discount, and 20% in store. With the price increase, that will change to about 60% ebay, and 40% at discount.

The last actual GW purchases I made were a box of plastic Chaos Possessed and a Rhino from the now 1 and only flgs Mandeville has. Before that it was literally 4 years since the last purchase I had made. It is too much. I've bought models for Eldar, Tau, Tyranids, and now Chaos marines since 98 when I started playing. I'd have much, much more if the price barrier wasn't so prohibitive. As a student, I can barely afford the essentials. They have certainly priced me out of their market, beyond the rare occasion that I lose my mind and give in to my need to be creative.

mikhaila wrote:Dealing with the price increase, or dealing with the moaning and whining about the price increase?

There's more noise about paying an extra 50 bucks a year to GW, than there is about paying an extra 50 bucks a week at the gaspump.

One is a luxury, and one a necessity. And people will cut back on necessities to keep purchasing the little luxuries- unless those luxuries become more expensive.

I'm an adult with a steady job, and this hobby is how I spend the bulk of my discretionary income. The problem (for GW) is, in the next wave of releases, I am not seeing anything that I want to buy at any price, let alone GW's retail price. To paraphrase the inestimable Garret, yes, in general it is just "increasing by the two or four dollers," but spread across an army, that's enough to make me put my money back in my wallet. I bought an entire new VC army when they came out with the 7th ed. I cannot imagine buying an entire new army now. Even if it is brand new really kewl anime fishmen from Cathay.

I think, for a lot of people, this price increase is causing a moment of self-reflection. I discovered that I am the sort of person who will spend $22 for 10 plastic toy soldiers. But I am not the sort of person who will spend $25 for 10 plastic toy soldiers.

The problem seems to me that the price increase is hitting Games Workshop with a double whammy...first of all, the kids they want to come in and blow there pocket money are less likely to do it, and less likely to convince mummy and daddy that it's a good idea to let them little plastic men they like as not will not be able to paint, and secondly it's driving away the older veterans who drop money every month. Sure, it might not be price of a new army...but £600 spread out over the year is still more than £150 that someone might drop to start a new army.

As for how I'm weathering it...I'm finishing up my current armies, getting them all painted, and trading in the Dakka Forums or buying off EBay and MegaMinis. I'm managing to keep to my slightly limited budget and get the stuff I want, for the most part.

I'll spend the same amount I do now, and have for the last 3 years.

I just buy less.

Except that since I started buying everything from an internet retailer I'm getting more minis than I was 5 years ago at my local GW store.


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Also an IG force is no longer an option.

LunaHound wrote:But wouldnt that cancel out the discount price ( if you compare it via the price increase )

If I buy retail from a different country I save money. Buying from a discounter just saves me more money. Australian prices are compeltely fethed, so a price rise elsewhere would probably still be cheaper than here (and when Oz gets the price rise, it will again be even cheaper to order overseas).

My next project will be probably an IG Army but unfortunately for GW I already have the substitutes and will be buying 1/35-1/48 Tanks for my armor.

M.

Bottom line is that the more money you have to throw at the hobby, the more competitive you'll be once you learn to play your army well. Titans are a perfect example of this.

I for one, made one purchase from Forgeworld in the last year - right when the dollar had gained the most against the pound in April. I knew exactly what I wanted, and waited for the price to fall to where I was willing to pay. EVERYTHING else has been bought used or traded. The Swap Shop is the way of the future.

It's even more odd considering that their profits from merchandising and licensing have probably never been higher in the wake of DOW and DOW2. Raising prices just when there's an increased demand for your product... GW is banking that people will still enter into the market. Hopefully for them, they're right. I think they're wrong, because demand isn't exceeding supply, unless I am gravely mistaken. Maybe somebody who did more than pass college-level Microeconomics 102 can elaborate.

Thinking about price per fig is depressing. Especially those of us who like to play foot-slogging armies. There's a mental threshold to cross between $2.20/fig and $2.50 a fig.

I just save for what I really want... so I can spend years and years without buying anything... for example incoming Nids will have my support.
I dont remember what was my last shopping in GW... maybe some 40k chaos... but I do remember that I made considerable cash by selling my fantasy stuff even at 40% off... most of it reinvested on other companies miniatures.
But I spend more money on greenstuff these days than on actual miniatures.

HI all.
slice of toast.
Just a correction, the more money you have to spend on the 'GW hobby' , the more likely you are to keep up with GW marketing driven rule sets and play into the hands of GW PLC C corperate managment!

If you are able to create YOUR OWN version of the wargaming hobby.
EG down load a FREE game rule set you can keep playing for years without HAVING to buy new minatures to be competative.(Stargrunt II, No Limits, Chain Reaction 3.etc.)
Then you could buy minatures from other suppliers that cost thier product competativley.

A game and minatures can be got for less than £5!(GZGs Full Thrust rules , EM4 minatures 12 space ships minatures .)

But IF you HAVE to play in a GW store and events ,because you dont have /friends dont have any room for a gaming space.(Garage, kitchen table etc.)
Remember the 'GW hobby' is usualy 2 to 18 times more expencive than the 'average wargaming hobby '.

Dont spend in ignorance,
Happy gameing ,
Lanrak.

It's simple for me. I have a budget and I will be sticking to it.

However it has forced me to finally get the last few things for my tau army, my DA won't be switching to Deathraven, my orks are now going Mech...and that planned DKoK, Eldar, DE, or Chaos army will just become random models i wanted to paint until i get a better job.

Wargames Factory got a hell of a lot more tempting I'm also seriously looking at getting into 28mm historicals now that heres a range of producers for them. I'malso stiopping spending with GW for a while.

i split my spending between my LGS and online shopping. its pretty much hlaf and half for me. i enjoy discounts, im thrifty too. that being said, gaming is my only real hobby, so i can justify spending.

im going to buy anything thats over 40$ from maelstorm games
but other than that im going to support my store

To all those saying 'so what' about the
price increase, aren't you the least bit
concerned that your hobby has turned into
a luxury item insanity?
Remember,The price increases they are
doing are just the ones they think they'll
get away with for the moment.Just wait
for the next,and the next,and the next.

I have my Space Marine army built the way I want for now. I just need to paint it. I support my FLGS so I have a place to play so I will buy non-GW paints, brushes, and IF I do get more models, I will buy the larger sets since I'd get more for my money. Sure, I'll get stuff I don't want but that is bits for conversions.

Someone mentions a wargame called EG. What is the link for that?

So my understanding from reading is... people dont care about the price increase due to their monthly budget staying the same.

So if im not mistaken , it doesnt matter since you are spending the same amount. And its all the same to you whether you buy 5 or you buy 20 with that same amount of money?

Oh wow. GW sure is blessed to have such customers

LunaHound wrote:
So my understanding from reading is... people dont care about the price increase due to their monthly budget staying the same.

So if im not mistaken , it doesnt matter since you are spending the same amount. And its all the same to you whether you buy 5 or you buy 20 with that same amount of money?

Oh wow. GW sure is blessed to have such customers

They'd be better off if I increased my budget to include their stuff. I will start fewer
of their armies. I will make fewer impulse decisions.

It's not like I can paint any faster than I already do or paint more often than I
already do.

Thinking about price per fig is depressing. Especially those of us who like to play foot-slogging armies. There's a mental threshold to cross between $2.20/fig and $2.50 a fig.

Try 4.75 for one space marine. Thats what we were paying in Canada in 2007. That was in American dollars too. It was nuts. I could literally drive for an hour to sarnia, corss the border, and buy the same model for 3.50 american at their own stores! The owner of my not so FLGS absolutely hated it. Whenever someone complained about the prices he would tear your head off, because the Americans were selling at retail what he paid for at wholsale.

I'll continue using miniatures from other manufacturers when I can, and e-bay/Warstore when I have to get GW products. I'm most likely going to dump all Warhammer Fantasy projects too.