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I dunno... Seems like the same old shat to be honest. You got your rear handed to you twice now and basically you are running the same list for all practical purposes.

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How can you say a DP with MoK is better than a Nurgle Prince with warp time?

I agree with the poster above. Also, don't presume that you're going to get the charge off. Don't ever presume that. =p

I don't care who I play against, unless they catch me by surprise with some "out of the warp" or "deepstriking + assaulting" stuff, I *always* get the assault with my 27" assault range.

Yeah I don't really see how this will hold objectives if your opponent have any mobile multimeltas to shoot up the landraiders.

That will leave you slogging zerkers and trying to deepstrike little squads of lesser daemons into the open.

Played another game, and won by insane luck. bottom line, I need to go back to the drawing board.

Tweaked the list AGAIN and came up with this. I play tested it against a Raider span Dark Eldar lost and got a minor loss. I did manage to kill almost all of his army, so it was a fun game.

HQ
Daemon Prince, Wings, Warptime
Daemon Prince, Wings, Warptime

troops
10 Khorne Berzerkers, Champ, PF, PI, Rhino
10 Khorne Berzerkers, Champ, PF, PI, Rhino
10 Khorne Berzerkers, Champ, PF, PI, Rhino

Elites
5 terminators, 2 PF, 2 combi-melta, 3 combi-plasma, Land Raider dedicated transport with DP
5 terminators, 2 PF, 2 combi-melta, 3 combi-plasma, Land Raider dedicated transport with DP

Heavy Support
Defiler, dual CCW
Defiler, dual CCW
Defiler, dual CCW

Slowly, its getting better I think.

I don't really play upto this level or Ardboyz style (as I am in UK) but, tbh, I could give that list a game with my 1750 list...

If you're gonna take cheap princes, at least give them MoS for the +1 Init which is invaluable with WT

You have 3 assault units to hold objectives with?? Surely they should be frothing at the mouth, charging forward and assaulting?

How will you deal with 2+ stuff like fexes and assault terminators? You have a total of 10 single shot, save negating guns that is ap2+ which, I would imagine, at this level is not enough.

You could, quite easily, be going up against 30 assault terminators which fleet and either have hitnrun/FC or null zone/gate (with shrike/khan or libby) at this points level. THere are a whole number of rock-hard combos that would totally eat a list at this big points size.

Having never played Ardboyz I'm not sure but isn't the focus on rock hard lists?? If it is then you need to be able to kill:

Lots of terminators
Lots of nob bikers and battle wagons
9 obliterators of yawn
2 big jetlock squads
9 MM speeders with Vulkan and assault terms

etc etc and I dont really think this list can handle any hardcore spam list.

If I had that many points, I would either take 30 terminators with abaddon & kharne or 2 DPs or just make an absolutely horrendously shooty list...

This list seems like a list in the style of 1500-1750 points games which has been expanded and armies don't really scale like that... I would go back to the drawing board to be honest.

Sorry to be so negative but I don't think this list is very competitive as is, even with the three defilers.

Oh, you need more troops to hold too... Your berserkers will probably be fighting too much to care