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Jackmojo wrote:

Horst wrote:
Redeemer pros:
3) increased capacity for terminators

Madgod wrote:Yeah I know if I wanted a Gunship as I said the Godhammer wins hands down. But this guy wanted a transport and you can't argue that the Redeemer has the same chance to die as the Godhammer and will transport more and do more

The Redeemer has the same transport as the Godhammer, 12 models. Only the Crusader has a larger transport capacity of 16.

Otherwise I totally agree with Horst's tactical assessment of the use of the Land Raider.

Jack

Madgod is partly right here but in terms of chaos and space wolves for them the godhammer has 10
Not that thats the topic but i felt i needed to throw it in.

Problem with Chaos is we basically only have the basic LR kit with a possible few additions (which we never take cuz its a waste of points when chaos LR's are troop transports primarily).

The use of land raiders, as a chaos player, is thus limited to the following;
1) carrier for my named chars (Typhus and Abaddon primarily) and possibly assault termi squads and zerkers.
2) Nothing else

Chaos doesn't get POTMS which means we cant move 6" and shoot both lascannons, so its either move full out to drop junk off, move 6" to drop junk off and take a lascannon potshot, or stay still and shoot with BS3 Lascannons (never take a LR as chaos without DP!)

I really do wish Chaos had more options for our raiders... sucks that SM's get all the rad stuff, like multimeltas :/

Thats what you get for being heritics

I run a LRC with terminators and a libby @ 1500pts+ games. Works quite well for me, YMMV.

does the librarian being in a terminator squad work for you?

I just can't imagine throwing my librarian at the same kinda things I throw my terminators at... he'd never live!

thats why I put my libby with a squad of assault marines... they hit squishier things, so my librarian lives longer.

I think they are OK, but overpriced. I have little problem stopping a pair of them. It is 5th and every army should have the tools to pop a couple of land raiders.

I never take them anymore, as I know good players are ready for av14 these days. You have to take at least 2, so you are looking at an investment of between 500 empty and 1000 with 2 termy squads. I have far better places to put those points - there are just too many melta/multi melta/rail guns on the board these days.

Trade you PotMS for Obliterators! How bout it?

GeneralRetreat wrote:Trade you PotMS for Obliterators! How bout it?

See my forum on New type of Terminator!