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probably neither. 180 orks base cost is over 1000 points.

180 x 6 = 1080. Nob with Pk and BP, add 40 to each squad so, 40 x 6 = 240. So 6-30Boyz+MAN = 1320 without HQ. Ork horde not gonna work under 500 pts sorry

but . .
WAAAGH!!Bozz 60
30Boyz+MAN 220
30Boyz+MAN 220

500

are you putting Mega Armoured Nobz in your boyz squads?

What do you think this is, Codex: Space Wolves?

scarab5 wrote:Just for fun I looked at what Necrons could bring to a 500pt army...

Lord w/ res orb
2 warrior squads x 10


Lol

It's a bloody disgrace isn't it? Personally I'd drop the orb and put the lord on a destroyer body and give him a warsycthe - but even then it's hardly competitive. I hope they get that new codex out soon!

Big Mek: KFF, PK, 'eavy armour
20 Shoota boys, Big shoota
20 Shoota boys, Big shoota
3 Killa kans, Rokkits

Sorcerer: [110]
Doombolt

8x Khorne berzerker squad: [203]
Rhino

7x Khorne berzerker squad: [182]
Rhino

5pts short and has 15 killy monsters and a HQ that can own other HQ's.

Maybe...

Farseer - Fortune, Runes of Warding, Runes of Witnessing
110

Warlock - Conceal
40

10 Wraithguard
350

total:500

Daemon Prince - Wings, Mark of Nurgle, Warptime

6 Plague Marines - 2 Flamers

6 Plague Marines - 2 Meltas

Total Cost: 481

It'd suck but it'd be fun.

2 Haemonculus w/Stinger and Scissorhands 70
10 Warriors (2 Dark Lances) 100
10 Warriors (2 Dark Lances) 100
Ravager w/3 Disintegrators, Horrorfex 125

total: 495

Each turn you get 16 rapid fire shots, 4 dark lance attacks, 2 pistols (that explode corpses when they kill), 3 pie plate of doom attacks (or 2 pie plates plus 1 pinning blast weapon)

Dork Eldar wrote:2 Haemonculus w/Stinger and Scissorhands 70
10 Warriors (2 Dark Lances) 100
10 Warriors (2 Dark Lances) 100
Ravager w/3 Disintegrators, Horrorfex 125

total: 495

Each turn you get 16 rapid fire shots, 4 dark lance attacks, 2 pistols (that explode corpses when they kill), 3 pie plate of doom attacks (or 2 pie plates plus 1 pinning blast weapon)

This is extremely close...

drummerholt1234 wrote:This is extremely close...

Extremely close to what exactly? To your almighty imbalanced 500p of hellfire doom? Then please share...?
Meh

Meh, surely Dark Eldar are better played with as many warriors in Raiders as possible, coz they're so dam cheap and you can take a Disintegrator on each tank plus 2 in the unit (dark lances are good but not as necessary at 500pts)

bobdole4eva wrote:Meh, surely Dark Eldar are better played with as many warriors in Raiders as possible, coz they're so dam cheap and you can take a Disintegrator on each tank plus 2 in the unit (dark lances are good but not as necessary at 500pts)

I disagree. Look at the lists posted on page 1, every one of them has at least 1 tank (I see several with Land Raiders), and almost every ork list put up has 1-3 Kans in them. 4 Dark Lances in the list I posted might be overkill, but I wouldn't go into a 500 point game without at least 2 of them, (keep 2 in the first squad and keep them on tank hunting, change the lances on the other team for Splinter Cannons which doesn't change the point cost at all and they work better as anti-infantry).

Ok here is one for Dark Eldar...

500 Pts - Dark Eldar Roster

HQ: Haemonculi (1#, 25 pts)
1 Haemonculi @ 25 pts

Troops: Raider Squad (6#, 110 pts)
5 Raider Squad @ 110 pts (Splinter Rifle x4; Splinter Cannon; Raider)
1 Raider (Dark Lance; Horrorfex)

Troops: Raider Squad (6#, 110 pts)
5 Raider Squad @ 110 pts (Splinter Rifle x4; Splinter Cannon; Raider)
1 Raider (Dark Lance; Horrorfex)

Heavy Support: Ravager (1#, 125 pts)
1 Ravager @ 125 pts (Disentegrator x3; Horrorfex)

Heavy Support: Ravager (1#, 125 pts)
1 Ravager @ 125 pts (Disentegrator x3; Horrorfex)

Total Roster Cost: 495

...and Tyranids

500 Pts - Tyranids Roster

HQ: Hive Tyrant (1#, 101 pts)
1 Hive Tyrant @ 101 pts (Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Twin-linked Devourer x2; Synapse Creature; The Horror)

HQ: Hive Tyrant (1#, 101 pts)
1 Hive Tyrant @ 101 pts (Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Twin-linked Devourer x2; Synapse Creature; The Horror)

Troops: Gaunt Brood (8#, 40 pts)
8 Gaunt Brood @ 40 pts (Spinefists)

Troops: Ripper Swarm (3#, 30 pts)
3 Ripper Swarm @ 30 pts

Heavy Support: Carnifex (1#, 113 pts)
1 Carnifex @ 113 pts (Scything Talons x1; Barbed Strangler)

Heavy Support: Carnifex (1#, 113 pts)
1 Carnifex @ 113 pts (Scything Talons x1; Barbed Strangler)

Total Roster Cost: 498

drummerholt1234 wrote:...and Tyranids

How do you think that list will hold up in 2/3rds of the missions? Considering all you have is 8 non-WoN gaunts?

Sure it might be hard to deal with 4 MC's at 500p but them being so slow anyways will make mech armies just avoid them and kill the gaunts, or just capture 2 objectives? or am I missing something crucial?

Someone needs to try the meganob army.

Megaboss (Mega-armor+bosspole)
Megaboss (mega-armor+bosspole)

Troops

3x MANz (two groups, I think this gets you exactly 500 points)

If you want to make this a bit more survivable, give each MAN (in a squad) a different kombi weapon (while taking regular PK/BP warbosses) And there you go, wound bucket MANz

Cannoness bolt pistol CCW
Cannoness bolt pistol CCW

2x Sob Troops with VSS 2x flamers

Exorcist.

500pts

exorcist rock 48 inch d6 s8 ap1 for under the cost of most troop choices....

6 faith points, means the cannoness's if running alone can pretty much invuln the whole game.

Plus if you run low you can always kenny a cannonness

Can your MANz army get more cowbell?

Hmm what can I think of.

FortuneSeer.
5 DireAvengers.
Serpent, Spirit Stones, TLBL.
6 Guardian Jetbikes, 2 Cannons, Embolden Lock.

Seer and DA chill in Serpent, they snipe tanks til stuff comes out.
Jetbikes do the same.
Whittle the opponent down and then commit with everything.
Can go into reserve to counter drop pods.

BL to plink at LRs.
Jetbikes, move shoot move, focused on light tanks and infantry.

Fortuneseer fortunes the serpent if there's cover, or the jet bikers.

Nids:
2 Hive Tyrants - Scything Talons + TL Devourer - 91ptsx2
1 Carnifex - 2x Scything Talons + Adrenal Gland (WS) - 105pts
1 Carnifex - 2x Scything Talons + Toxic Miasma - 109pts
8 Gaunts - Spinefists - 40pts
8 Gaunts - Spinefists + Without Number - 64pts

500pts

SuperioR wrote:

drummerholt1234 wrote:...and Tyranids

How do you think that list will hold up in 2/3rds of the missions? Considering all you have is 8 non-WoN gaunts?

Sure it might be hard to deal with 4 MC's at 500p but them being so slow anyways will make mech armies just avoid them and kill the gaunts, or just capture 2 objectives? or am I missing something crucial?

Well the answer is simple you hide them in cover (3+ cover save/ 2+ before the last turn). Also a mech army at 500pts won't hurt to bad. 3-4 tanks will not be able to avoid the 12" threat range of the MC and the S8 Template...

Gorkamorka wrote:Nids:
2 Hive Tyrants - Scything Talons + TL Devourer - 91ptsx2
1 Carnifex - 2x Scything Talons + Adrenal Gland (WS) - 105pts
1 Carnifex - 2x Scything Talons + Toxic Miasma - 109pts
8 Gaunts - Spinefists - 40pts
8 Gaunts - Spinefists + Without Number - 64pts

500pts

This is descent but where is the range threat?