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Joostuh wrote:Gretchin will run away (Ld 7 with reroll -Combat resolution), so that's not an ideal tarpit unit. Take boyz and you'll be better at tarpitting and destroying the termies.

Not with the Squig Hounds loose 1d3 grots and reroll the moral
and even if they fail you can't chase them down.
They can make a moral chack and reroll a falure and then chaege once more on your turn.
I have walked into this before, they are not as fragil as you think, once they are in your face you have to deal with them, acouple of 4" fall backs can really ruin your day. Its like facing a Guard Blob, yes you may kill them all, but that all you will do for a few turns.

Aslo Remember they are a scoring unit.

i do love the chock attack gun... is really annoying it has to be operated by a big mek tho taking up one of my HQ slots, is always a tough decision what to field as i love my weirdboy and my 2 warbosses on bikes, they just have to take it in turns

12 BikerBoyz will average 2+ killed a turn from shooting and can move enough that they won't be charged. 2 turns of shooting and then charge them on the 2nd turn. All 5 will be dead. Keep your bikes spread out if he has heavy flamers, otherwise no problem. Boss on bike speeds it up but not even necessary against 5 TH/SS Termies.

3rd edition orks I used Storm Boyz as my dedicated Termie killas. Back when choppas limited armor saves. You know, the good ol' days

augustus5 wrote:

Yeah so my math was off. It will kill 6, not 12. After you charge though all those power weapons should finish the job.

Sorry, cant use the Powerweapon in the same turn as the flamer. But 5 termies will be dead after failing 6 saves, so there is no need for PW.

Not with the Squig Hounds loose 1d3 grots and reroll the moral
and even if they fail you can't chase them down.
They can make a moral chack and reroll a falure and then chaege once more on your turn.
I have walked into this before, they are not as fragil as you think, once they are in your face you have to deal with them, acouple of 4" fall backs can really ruin your day. Its like facing a Guard Blob, yes you may kill them all, but that all you will do for a few turns.

Aslo Remember they are a scoring unit.

5 termies will kill about 6 gretchin(w/o charge), so you'll be re-rolling a LD 2 or 3. Not ideal, at all. Sure no sweeping advance (until an other unit or IC joins in), but you can babysit them to the edge of the board. If you don't you'll keep the termies busy for a few turns, I'm just saying that I'd rather take boyz for tarpitting a unit of Termies.

Ultrafool wrote:Shoot the shokk attack gun, and hope you role double 6's.

I did this once in a tournament against Chaos Terminators. No scatter and all five terminators disappeared. However, barring great luck the SAG is still useful for taking out terminators. Place your SAG in the top floor of a building with 19 gretchin and 1 runtherder as a meatshield and use the incredible range of the SAG and its AP2 to blast those terminators.

If we're going to rely on long random odds, use a Zzap gun to crack the Raider and call it a day.

I would:
Deff Roll their land Raider, and then charge them as soon as they disembark with all the Boyz inside.

Terminators of any variety fall to mass fire/basic cc attacks. A unit of 30 boys charging may be able to take them out, and if not they will certainly dwindle their numbers sufficiently.

And if it comes down to it, and you HAVE to beat them with Nob bikers, don't do it in CC. They get ~18 hits on the unit from shooting each turn, which should give you ~12 wounds, 2 dead termies. They've no reply, and if you're good at eyeballing ranges, they won't catch you the next turn. Do it again, and they're down to one terminator.

If it's an eight strong unit, you're in more trouble there, I'll admit.
Boys are the most efficient way to deal with them.