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I would bet that a belt leading from the "backpack" to the bolter would hold several hundred rounds and require an advance feeding system (not advancED, but advance, as in forward) which would leave a considerable amount of ammunition in the belt once the magazine went dry....

I, myself, have gone through the pains of procuring enough large pouches for all my Marine models., and the shear number of small pouches I have I could probably load them out pretty well.

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The Landspeeder Storm has bitz of bolter mag boxes. Maybe the scouts are stuck with those until they graduate to big-boy backpacks.

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The shoulder pad theory makes me lol.

I'm kinda curious though, how many bullets does a bolter hold? It looks like it has a box clip that could hold as many as 30 rounds, considering each bolt is like a rocket, do they ever need more bullets? (Also, there are probably spare bullets in the rhino)

Edit: and I was looking at sternguard models for the 'box clip' thing....but still, how many bullets?

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Go down to the part of the "ammo stores"

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vodo40k wrote:Here (or so I think....)


Nope. Those are just additional exhaust ports. The old 3rd Ed SM Dex gave a breakdown of the backpack power system.

there are additional bits on the sprues for extra ammo pouches and whatnot, most people just don't bother to put them on all their minis.

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There's a picture of a space marine in IA3 with three spare magazines attached to the outside of his right thigh by some means that is not readily apparent. His left side is not visible, but there might be more there. The magazines are said to contain twenty rounds.

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A more relevant discussion would be the feasibility of bolters when their typical ammo capacity is taken into consideration...*hides*
   
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Or rather, what that Capacity even is. GW is sitting steadfast at between 30-35 rounds for a standard mag. THQ believes it's closer to 15.

I'm going with GW for the standard capacity of the Bolter's sickle mag, as they -are- the owners of the IP.

Most assault rifles carry a capacity per mag of roughly 30 rounds, give or take depending on the weapon. So I see Bolters as perfectly feasible. Besides, when you have a machine gun that fires mini rockets, I'm pretty sure you'd be hard pressed NOT to shave your head and run screaming into battle.

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Point, but SWs, for the most part, apparently have infinite ammo anyway(judging by some fiction).
   
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Ronin-Sage wrote:Point, but SWs, for the most part, apparently have infinite ammo anyway(judging by some fiction).


They also use lots of MULTILAZ0RZ, according to 'some fiction'

But yea, according to GW, each sickle mag holds 30. Storm Bolters hold 60, and Box mags hold 90. Pintle Mounted Storm Bolters carry 180 rounds.

That's all from various Codi, Rulebooks, Stories, etc...

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So from what people are saying, an "average" Space Marine holds about 90-150 rounds?

Uhhhhhh, that doesn't seem like alot when they's be shootin' like crazy during planetary invasions...

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Yeah...I always thought bolter rounds would take up a considerably larger amount of space than your standard bullet.
   
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Doombot001 wrote:So from what people are saying, an "average" Space Marine holds about 90-150 rounds?

Uhhhhhh, that doesn't seem like alot when they's be shootin' like crazy during planetary invasions...



They probably set up resupply posts ASAP once they've made planetfall. Besides, when you can tear someone limb from limb with your bare hands while shrugging off las shots and bullets, I'm pretty sure Ammo seems almost trivial for the most part

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I think I also saw that the mags were magnetic, that would make alot of sense. And I also think GKs don't need their backpack, they can be fueled by faith and awesomeness.

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They don't need to carry extra ammo. All the ammo they'll ever need is in that one magazine.

Think about it.
Even if they rapid fired every turn of a 7 turn game, (unlikely) that's only 14 shots fired for the whole game. And if the mag is 30 rounds, they have enough ammo for two whole games!

 
   
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There must be a secret hatch in the armor. A fact I'm sure slaneshi marines take advantage of frequently.

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Does Anyone have the Original Deathwing Rule book, i am sure in there was drawing of a Terminator taking ammo for his storm bolter out of his back. I maybe wrong i last saw it 15 years ago.... Or maybe it is the Literature thats in it, cannot remember that well.

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I'm gonna have to go with the pauldron theory. After all, there's no OTHER conceivable reason for those ungodly huge things.

Plus, position-wise it'd be great. You just reach across, grab a clip, and slap it in.

 
   
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