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I liked Tom Petty's part in The Postman

"hey aren't you...?!"

Petty: "Well, I was before...y'know."

Albatross wrote:I know mate - that totally blows my mind. That's like saying you like 'Waterworld'. Ugh.

'Waterworld' is about as historically accurate as 'The Patriot', for that matter.

Waterworld wasn't that bad. It was ludicrously expensive, they could have made the same movie for about $10 million if they cut back on the petrol explosions and that floating trading post that was in the movie for about 30 seconds. But it wasn't one of the worst movies of all time. It wasn't even the worst movie where Kevin Costner has gills.

45. There's a cute and no doubt annoying child who will be screaming all through her prominent role.

M.

We already had little girls screaming in War of the Worlds....Make that a 46

sebster wrote:

Cane wrote:Looking at his IMDB list there are only two movies I enjoyed that he's done: The Patriot and Independence Day.

Hang on, what? Somebody liked The Patriot? That... I mean... how?

sebster wrote:

Albatross wrote:I know mate - that totally blows my mind. That's like saying you like 'Waterworld'. Ugh.

'Waterworld' is about as historically accurate as 'The Patriot', for that matter.

Waterworld wasn't that bad. It was ludicrously expensive, they could have made the same movie for about $10 million if they cut back on the petrol explosions and that floating trading post that was in the movie for about 30 seconds. But it wasn't one of the worst movies of all time. It wasn't even the worst movie where Kevin Costner has gills.

Pfft, The Patriot was far more entertaining than Waterworld but they're both hovering around the average mark.

Waterworld made $264,246,220 gross on cinema takings alone (No Tv, pay TV, Video, dvd, merchandising etc).

It cost $175,000,000 so that is a pretty damned healthy return.

Anyway went and watched 2012 today.

Good apocalypse movie.

Nice character in there to remind the bleeding hearts that they are a bunch of loosers for threatening the lives of many to save a few.

Woody Harellson makes a surprise appearance.

Also the new AVATAR trailer was on beforehand.
So it isn't Pocohantas in space, it is corporate loggers/miners vs forest indians.
Enjoy...

Pfft, The Patriot was far more entertaining than Waterworld but they're both hovering around the average mark.

That's my point - they aren't the worst films ever, just excruciatingly average. And spending the GDP of a small country on 'average' is well....stupid.

I am going to wait for others to see it before I see Avatar. Right now it looks like touchy feely PC nonsense to me.

I want to see the movie where mankind kicks the beejeesus out of aliens and then takes all their stuff, and prank calls their alien houses at midnight.

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Waterworld made $264,246,220 gross on cinema takings alone (No Tv, pay TV, Video, dvd, merchandising etc).

It cost $175,000,000 so that is a pretty damned healthy return.

Actually, my understanding is that the production costs of a film are only that and do not include marketing or distribution at all. A rule of thumb is that a film has to actually double its production cost to break even on all of its other costs. Box Office Mojo is a funny sight to peruse at how films may have failed despite adverts claiming "#1 movie of the year" Bullgak.

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Also the new AVATAR trailer was on beforehand.
So it isn't Pocohantas in space, it is corporate loggers/miners vs forest indians.
Enjoy...

Did you see "Dances with Smurfs" last night?

46. If you want to watch a real end of the world story turn on your local news.

Hawkins wrote:46. If you want to watch a real end of the world story turn on your local news.

I don't know about that. The WWF (not the wrestlers) announced that the earth would be be in climate catastrophe in 5 years, 5 years ago yesterday.

Looking outside it seems alright to me.

Hmm... tell that to New Orleans and South-east Asia in general. Instances of extreme weather seem to be on the increase.

Katrina wasn't that exceptional of a storm, it was mostly bad due to the levees breaking.

Yep, fair enough- the flood did most of the damage in that case. But let me direct you to my main point:

Instances of extreme weather seem to be on the increase.

Would you disagree with that?

Would you agree with this?




Correlation does not imply causation.

I suppose I could agree with the "seeming" part; the problem is you can't really tell what has been out of the ordinary until you step back from it. That ability will probably not be available until some time has passed. Personal perception over long periods of time also has as much to do with what you remember as what you see, which can make the fear of something becoming more common make it appear to be more common by itself.

(I wouldn't say it's really become a catastrophe at any rate, though.)

Yeah - pirates make it warmer And? So?

A study released Wednesday by the WMO -- a specialized climate science agency of the United Nations -- says the world is experiencing record numbers of extreme weather events, such as droughts and tornadoes.

"While the trend towards warmer globally averaged surface temperatures has been uneven over the course of the last century, the trend for the period since 1976 is roughly three times that for the past 100 years as a whole.

"Global average land and sea surface temperatures in May 2003 were the second highest since records began in 1880," the WMO warned.

Last year much of Australia was hit by the longest drought in recorded history, which devastated crop yields and sparked continual bushfires which threatened major cities.

Conversely, many parts of China and East Asia were hit by severe flooding resulting in thousands of deaths.

I blame Cap'n Jack Sparrow.

Albatross wrote:Hmm... tell that to New Orleans and South-east Asia in general. Instances of extreme weather seem to be on the increase.

New Orleans is also a bad example as you're talking about a city built on top a bowl shaped swamp below sea level.

The city itself is designed to fail within the next 50 years or less.

Does that mean Holland is gonna fail soon? Damn.

Don't worry, their shoes float.

Methinks the thread has gone off track...

Eat meat. Give Australia more pretty beaches, and higher number of tourists.

In the trailers, is that an enormous wave dostruying the himalayas? Is there enough water on the freaking planet to do that?

I am gonna pass on this one in the movies methinks.

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:

Hawkins wrote:46. If you want to watch a real end of the world story turn on your local news.

I don't know about that. The WWF (not the wrestlers) announced that the earth would be be in climate catastrophe in 5 years, 5 years ago yesterday.

Looking outside it seems alright to me.

So one outlandish claim from an activist organisation discredits and entire field of research? And note that they're an activist organisation, not even a group focussed on scientific climate studies.

Cane wrote:Pfft, The Patriot was far more entertaining than Waterworld but they're both hovering around the average mark.

No, Waterworld was an average movie that ran grossly overbudget. The Patriot was a remarkably horrible movie. The films commentary on the war seemed to be ‘good honest people that totally didn’t own any slaves at all didn’t want to fight but then the British went about acting like ludicrously stupid and evil goobers just like in Braveheart so Mel Gibson had to kill them just like in Braveheart’.

Braveheart, of course, took plenty of liberties with its history, but the pacing and characterisation were excellent so it works as a straight up fantasy movie. The Patriot doesn’t, because the pacing was turgid, the script very muddled, and the characters were one-note clichés.

The politics of the revolution are fascinating and I’d really like to see a good movie set during the period, but so far we’ve gotten that insufferably boring Al Pacino movie and The Patriot. And that Jeff Daniels movie, which is probably the best so far (feint praise indeed).

sebster wrote:

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:

Hawkins wrote:46. If you want to watch a real end of the world story turn on your local news.

I don't know about that. The WWF (not the wrestlers) announced that the earth would be be in climate catastrophe in 5 years, 5 years ago yesterday.

Looking outside it seems alright to me.

So one outlandish claim from an activist organisation discredits and entire field of research? And note that they're an activist organisation, not even a group focussed on scientific climate studies.

I don't know that there's an entire field of research saying that the world is ending.

(Well, a respectable field of research...)

Orkeosaurus wrote:I don't know that there's an entire field of research saying that the world is ending.

(Well, a respectable field of research...)

Me either.

Didn't know any world government took it seriously, either, which makes me wonder why they would build giant boats to save people(or are they movie magic instantly built boats once everything started happening?).

There was a series on Samuel Adams not so long ago that looked pretty good - it had Paul Giamatti in it, I think...
But yeah, an accurate film on the American War of Independence would be interesting. There was treachery, corruption, extreme violence, breath-taking hubris and propaganda on BOTH sides of the conflict - the american people (or should I say British colonists) were basically caught between two opposing ruling classes, neither of whom had their best interests at heart.

Truth: Accurate fims are boring. It is OK to spend 2650000000000000000000000000 dollars (any currency) on a film just to get cheesy sfx on a rusty hull of an oil tanker. Blue aliens are sexy.

Emmerich raped Godzilla - i won't spend any money on his crappy movies again! NEVER!!

Hey, stop trash-talking Emmerich on the Godzilla case! Godzilla is hard. You had to make a believable giant-lizard-in-the-city action film based on stupid people in rubber suits knocking down cardboard sets. On film. For cinemas. O;O-----> The other example was a rubber articulated model moving at one frame an hour.

THAT for upgrading trash. And all the poor guy got is accusations of doing wierd stuff with giant lizards.

Edit: I was , for the cinematically illiterate, talking about the japanese movies made at the time on Godzilla. There about a hundred. According to them, Godzilla is powerd by a continuous atomic explosions in his heart. He could shoot atomic lasers and battle radioactive sea slime...