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It wouldn't be so bad if the Necro in Orlando and Redneck Rampage hadn't called it quits. They should do a GT there as well so all of us 40k players/gamblers can hang out.

Hey, does anyone have commentary on the nature and quality of Avalon Game Convention events?

I notice that they're behind all of these Con-Quests. I checked their site, but found little info on the company other than a brief staff list. I wonder if that "Mondo" is Don Mondo?

Regardless, I'm going to get my hiney in gear and hope to see other Pacific NWers at the Seattle event in January. Anyone else going to that?

Can anyone tell me if theres gonna be more events in North West England?

Man, the first time I get an indy GT in my home town (Fayetteville), I'm in Iraq.

Then again, I'm assuming it means Fayetteville, NC.

Looks like a very positive step in the right direction. Should be a good year.

The balance of the schedule is off mainly due to the Conquest series of events. If someone could get hooked up with HMGS-East or other convention series .. .. that would even out a bit.

As for the Necro and Redneck Ramage or any other event for that matter. Running a high caliber event once is harder than most people can imagine let along running it year after year. Hats off for doing it while you can.

-Hank

Thats true. Most people dont understand how much money is required out of your own pocket and how little money you make in return. I had heard the redneck was taking a year off but I did not know the Necro was dead too. I passed Exterminatus off to another group of people and have heard nothing about it but if they can get their act together we were an official indy last year. I still can not believe they did not take the Maul at the Mall in Chattanooga. Can events still be added or is this locked?

Savnock wrote:Hey, does anyone have commentary on the nature and quality of Avalon Game Convention events?

I notice that they're behind all of these Con-Quests. I checked their site, but found little info on the company other than a brief staff list. I wonder if that "Mondo" is Don Mondo?

Regardless, I'm going to get my hiney in gear and hope to see other Pacific NWers at the Seattle event in January. Anyone else going to that?

I believe the 'mondo' is Mondo Vega. Don Mondo is down in the DC area with the IFL.

Ketara wrote:Dinner with JJ? I would actually give that one to H.B.M.C. on the condition that he records it.

I'll save everyone the effort and provide the transcript.

(Jervis) "So."

[long pause]

(HBMC) "So."

[one-and-a-half hours of uncomfortable silence follow]

Fishboy wrote:. I still can not believe they did not take the Maul at the Mall in Chattanooga. Can events still be added or is this locked?

I think it's not necessarily set in stone, although it might be for this year. Not sure. But I'll find out for you. Meeting up with Ed in a couple hours and talking mostly about the tournament schedule.

You really need to get that move done to this area so I can put you to work...uh, I mean so you can come play in my wonderful events

Savnock wrote:Hey, does anyone have commentary on the nature and quality of Avalon Game Convention events?

I notice that they're behind all of these Con-Quests. I checked their site, but found little info on the company other than a brief staff list. I wonder if that "Mondo" is Don Mondo?

Regardless, I'm going to get my hiney in gear and hope to see other Pacific NWers at the Seattle event in January. Anyone else going to that?

I played in last years conquest NW.
it was fairly well run for a major first year event.
1. The painting scoring was all over the board but if you pointed out why you should have higher they would re-judge.
2. they had 2 hour games for 1850. With little time between start and the posting so most people where still moving when the clock started and lots of games didn't finish.
3. the event is really close to the airport aka you could walk but they do have a shuttle bus.
4. I am playing as is Inquistor malice(Sparks). Blackmoor was considering coming up.

this year should be better as they are added more terrian and ironing out the kinks.
The WFB side was pretty thin last year.

Stupid stupid stupid. Making the most successful GT invite only? I guess I get that they want to make it a really special event, but it cuts out a huge number of their customers. I have a real life and few events near me, and I generally don't do that well at the tournaments, so there is no chance I'll get invited.

And I was really looking forward to blowing a couple hundred bucks to go to the LVGT again. Way to lose money GW.

Buckethead wrote:Stupid stupid stupid. Making the most successful GT invite only? I guess I get that they want to make it a really special event, but it cuts out a huge number of their customers. I have a real life and few events near me, and I generally don't do that well at the tournaments, so there is no chance I'll get invited.

And I was really looking forward to blowing a couple hundred bucks to go to the LVGT again. Way to lose money GW.

news flash you can't buy your way into the ukgt final either. sure it is easier to get into the uk final. I think this is a great idea. it really helps all these events drag people in which is good for the hobby. I have started toconsider going to places like gotacon in victoria BC, since it is a smaller event and have a better chance of getting through. you are right the casual gamer has little chance to go to vegas. instead go to the convention in vegas, if your heart is set on vegas

What would be great, is if all these events got together and standardized a few things. Like point size, and maybe a generally accept set of scenarios.

instead go to the convention in vegas, if your heart is set on vegas

Which convention? Is GW doing a game convention in Vegas?

Heres my problem from what I read(or misread if im wrong please tell me), but all this is well rather against the overall hobby that GW has produced. They really are pushing for the WAAC and it's annoying as this defames the hobby as all incompassing. So for the excellent modeller /painter even thoughhey the dice didnt fly the way one would hope or well their tactics suck they dont get the recognition form GW that they deserve as much as the overall winners. The good sportsman who was a blast to play against and really made the tourney worth going to for you is also outcasted. I personally will go to some of these events on the list as hell they are a blast like adepticon, and astronomicon but to name a few, but I can say for all certainty if I "Won" overall I would tell GW to shove it as I care less about their event and more about the rock solid fun events that recognise all aspects of the hobby. Ok rant and rave somewhat over.

P.S: I honestly feel this is more reason/proof that GW has gone downhill and it sadens me. If it were not for the fun gamers I play with I would just say screw them and go back fully to historicals or something else.

So does this mean they will have a standardized set of FAQ's for all to use/read?

Or are they going to default and use the Int FAQ again?

Just remember too theres a couple more in Texas that aren't on the list. Keep in mind though, its a big state. We drove from West Texas to the Bayou Battle in Houston - 12 hour trip. BIG state.

Shifting from "official" events to "indy" events does not mean that you cannot enjoy attending a tournament. Each of the events listed on the new circuit has different rules, prices and venues. While there may be something for every level from large one day events to two day GT's that are as good or better than GW's, or from a fire hall to a hotel convention center, you may have to travel more to get to one. GW obviously is moving in a different direction with the focus of tournaments being Indy events and one Games Day, and I believe the new team has got a great plan with what they have to work with.

As far as I know, GW did not set up these venues. It is in the hands of people who love the hobby and have the desire to provide events to their fellow gamers. The folks who stepped up and have offered to take the reigns will be providing your tournaments. Some are established for years and others are brand new. We do have an official schedule and details well over a month before the circuit starts so we do have a good amount of time to prepare armies.

When the announcement came in the beginning of April that the GT's were canceled I jumped into planning MechaniCon and we were able to get our event off BEFORE the new circuit started. Our entire club pitched in to make it happen and all of us gave up our play time for months, lots of money, and lots of labor to make it happen. Now that we have had a successful event we can finally relax a little before it is time to start working on next year. We are helping others get their events off the ground with advice, use of our tables and scenery, and more.

Other clubs are doing the same thing and we need to support their events to make sure they can offer tournaments in the future. While you initially may not have a good reaction to this new circuit, please remember that it is what we have to work with, so let's make it the best we can! I can only hope that lots of other folks are inspired to start doing events so we get a chance to go play.

So much for catching up on sleep... time to work on my army for the St. Valentine's Day Massacre.

CONQUEST ARMEGEDDON is in Vegas
neoncon is in vegas
followed by conquest armegeddon 2011.

I hope they DO NOT set up standard rules and points. because there are some awesome events on the list. that really mess with the waac players.

events with high painting percentages or messed up missions add flavor to the season.

mikhaila wrote:

Manfred von Drakken wrote:Exactly one event north of Baltimore. Way to cover the Northeast, guys. Phoenix and Dallas get TONS of love.

St. Valentines Day Massacre in Media, PA (Philadelphia) in Feb. 2010
Da Boyz GT in Rochester, NY, in Oct. 2010
Mechanicon in Westchester PA (Philadelphia) in Nov. 2010
St. Valentines Day Massacre in Media, PA (Philadelphia) in Feb. 2011

(Because the first 'season' runs June-June, + the first six months of 09, Some cons will occur twice in this 'season'. )

So you get to go to 4 on the East coast north of Baltimore. Feel better? Hope you like Philly.

I will also agree with the above. I'm blessed that I live very close to media/showcase comics which is an excellent store with a good mix of gamers. That being said Mikhaila is familiar with the club I game out of, plus there are additionally a couple clubs in the region. We are all used to car pooling and linking up to drive the 2-4 hours for events. It comes with the Gamer GT hat. Your going to drive, your going to travel. The benefit of it is seeing armies and meeting people that will inspire you to better your gaming and painting.

If you don't like traveling simple solution: Run an event. Most events are run by 2-3 guys. Get the word out on your event, look for the 50 guys to attend, rent a hall or empty store for the day and Game On! If you don't know where to start put up a post, I think you'll be surprised at the input you get from people here.

Empchild wrote:Heres my problem from what I read(or misread if im wrong please tell me), but all this is well rather against the overall hobby that GW has produced. They really are pushing for the WAAC and it's annoying as this defames the hobby as all incompassing. So for the excellent modeller /painter even thoughhey the dice didnt fly the way one would hope or well their tactics suck they dont get the recognition form GW that they deserve as much as the overall winners. The good sportsman who was a blast to play against and really made the tourney worth going to for you is also outcasted.

P.S: I honestly feel this is more reason/proof that GW has gone downhill and it sadens me. If it were not for the fun gamers I play with I would just say screw them and go back fully to historicals or something else.

What on earth are you talking about? Do you even know the rules for these tournaments? Do you think they are all 'Ard Boyz format?

Here are the rules to the first 2 out of 3 events (the ones that I might be going to)

Conquest NW scores 100 points for battle, 50 points for painting/conversions.
http://www.con-quest.com/

The Broadside Bash has 100 points for battle, 36 points for player judged Comp!!!, 50 points of player judged sportsmanship, 33 points in painting. So only 100 out of 200 points are from battle.
http://www.broadsidebash.com/rules.php

I am sure that most other events will have similar rules, so please, read the rules to these events.

Timmah wrote:What would be great, is if all these events got together and standardized a few things. Like point size, and maybe a generally accept set of scenarios.

I disagree. The heart of the independent tournament scene is that they are different, not cookie cutter. Different clubs and groups run different style events.

Realize that GW are not creating a national tournament system, with cookie cutter events that lead to a national tournament. What they have done is offered support to independent tournaments, and as one of the perks of being on the circuit, you can send 2 people to the national event.

To standardize all the events would simply mean 2/3 of the people running them would say "feth that", and quit doing them. Lots of work, time, energy, and sometimes your own money out of your pocket. Putting people in straight jackets on how to run their events would simply kill them.


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Uriels_Flame wrote:So does this mean they will have a standardized set of FAQ's for all to use/read?

Or are they going to default and use the Int FAQ again?

Again, GW is supporting independent events. Independent. It's up to the TO of each event.

Blackmoor wrote:

Empchild wrote:Heres my problem from what I read(or misread if im wrong please tell me), but all this is well rather against the overall hobby that GW has produced. They really are pushing for the WAAC and it's annoying as this defames the hobby as all incompassing. So for the excellent modeller /painter even thoughhey the dice didnt fly the way one would hope or well their tactics suck they dont get the recognition form GW that they deserve as much as the overall winners. The good sportsman who was a blast to play against and really made the tourney worth going to for you is also outcasted.

P.S: I honestly feel this is more reason/proof that GW has gone downhill and it sadens me. If it were not for the fun gamers I play with I would just say screw them and go back fully to historicals or something else.

What on earth are you talking about? Do you even know the rules for these tournaments? Do you think they are all 'Ard Boyz format?

Here are the rules to the first 2 out of 3 events (the ones that I might be going to)

Conquest NW scores 100 points for battle, 50 points for painting/conversions.
http://www.con-quest.com/

The Broadside Bash has 100 points for battle, 36 points for player judged Comp!!!, 50 points of player judged sportsmanship, 33 points in painting. So only 100 out of 200 points are from battle.
http://www.broadsidebash.com/rules.php

I am sure that most other events will have similar rules, so please, read the rules to these events.

and please read the post too. I said If I am wrong please tell me as this is my interpitation of it. Instead NERD RAGGGGGE. Though I do like the idea someone posted on doing your own and as such I finally feel it's time to do this so not to thread jack but check out http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/266361.page

I am really looking forward to playing as many as I can, even if I cannot paint worth mentioning.

njpc wrote:
If you don't like traveling simple solution: Run an event. Most events are run by 2-3 guys. Get the word out on your event, look for the 50 guys to attend, rent a hall or empty store for the day and Game On! If you don't know where to start put up a post, I think you'll be surprised at the input you get from people here.

I can vouch for that statement. I was able to receive lots of advice from other TO's and many companies. As I have been saying for months, do not be afraid to ask! Whether it is about support, building advice, or even how to handle payments at the door, you will be surprised how helpful your community peers will be.

Hey, does anyone have commentary on the nature and quality of Avalon Game Convention events?

I notice that they're behind all of these Con-Quests. I checked their site, but found little info on the company other than a brief staff list. I wonder if that "Mondo" is Don Mondo?

Yeah not Don Mondo, Mondo Vega. I made the same mistake last year

Although the ConquestNW GT is being offered by Avalaon Game conventions, they aren't really running it. A local group of gamers is running it. They haven't had any other GT style tournaments at the other conventions that I know of and I am really interested to see what they do for all these cons they have scheduled. Hope someone in those areas volunteers to run the the thing? If the fellas running ConquestNW GT hadn't stepped up last year it woulda been a flop (there was 0 info and rules a month before the tournament, as an example).

Regardless, I'm going to get my hiney in gear and hope to see other Pacific NWers at the Seattle event in January. Anyone else going to that?

Some friends and I are coming over from the east side of the state. Didn't make it last year but know a handfull that did. Heard of some rough edges as skipper mentions but overall a successful event for having little planning time. Hoping the year of planning shows this time around.

Also there's a ton of circuit events in the PacNW area, kinda amazing really. 3 Conquests (Seattle, Portland, VancouverBC), SpoCon, Astronomicon Vancouver, GottaCon in VictoriaBC. Plus there's some in Edmonton even. Hoping to make a couple over the 18 months season.

Astronomicon is by all accounts the best indy GT I have ever been too. I can not wait to visit one of the ones those two guys run in the rest of canada as they always put on a great event. Lots of cool awards, and GREAT social climate.

Astronomicon is by all accounts the best indy GT I have ever been too. I can not wait to visit one of the ones those two guys run in the rest of canada as they always put on a great event. Lots of cool awards, and GREAT social climate.

QFT. Christian and Mike run an awesome and well tuned event. Been to Vancouver astro twice and it is a blast. Definitely not a WAAC event. I am biased though (won Best Sportsmanship this year).

Grats I took 2nd in vancouver on best sportsman in 2006. Was hard as I was hopped up on pain killers at the time due to immense back pain(old infantry days I tell ya). All in all though look forward to going to more of their events.