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[Post New] 2010/01/11 22:31:17
    Subject: WYSIWIG and Pink Horrors.
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch





Akron, Ohio

Gwar! wrote:
kuro_khan wrote:So why would you prevent me from switching Chapters?
Because, like Inquisitor Fabulous pointed out, it's just too much confusion. If you bring Blood Angels, you play Blood Angels.
No, it isn't confusing at all.

Tactical Marines- in every codex
Assault Marines- in every codex
Devastators- in every codex
Bikers- in every codex
Rhinos- in every codex
Razorbacks- in every codex
Land Raiders- in every codex
Land Raider Crusaders- in every codex
Vindicators- in every codex
Whirlwinds- in every codex
Predators- in every codex
Librarians (for the four that have them)- in every codex
Chaplains (maybe Wolf Priest, not quite sure)- in every codex
Captains- in every codex
Dreadnoughts- in every codex
Scouts- in every codex
Land Speeders- in every codex
Drop Pods- in every codex

I can't really think of any major units outside the Storm, Ironclad, Prometheus, and characters from C:SM that do not have a direct equivalent in the other SM codeci. Hell, a huge majority of those also have equivalents in C: CSM.
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[Post New] 2010/01/11 22:53:39
    Subject: WYSIWIG and Pink Horrors.
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Death-Dealing Dark Angels Devastator




Liverpool

RustyKnight wrote:
Gwar! wrote:
kuro_khan wrote:So why would you prevent me from switching Chapters?
Because, like Inquisitor Fabulous pointed out, it's just too much confusion. If you bring Blood Angels, you play Blood Angels.
No, it isn't confusing at all.

Tactical Marines- in every codex
Assault Marines- in every codex
Devastators- in every codex
Bikers- in every codex
Rhinos- in every codex
Razorbacks- in every codex
Land Raiders- in every codex
Land Raider Crusaders- in every codex
Vindicators- in every codex
Whirlwinds- in every codex
Predators- in every codex
Librarians (for the four that have them)- in every codex
Chaplains (maybe Wolf Priest, not quite sure)- in every codex
Captains- in every codex
Dreadnoughts- in every codex
Scouts- in every codex
Land Speeders- in every codex
Drop Pods- in every codex

I can't really think of any major units outside the Storm, Ironclad, Prometheus, and characters from C:SM that do not have a direct equivalent in the other SM codeci. Hell, a huge majority of those also have equivalents in C: CSM.


With Gwar on this one. To me WYSIWYG includes the colour and markings and the models.
The thing is that some of those units have different rules depending on the codex. Might not be big differences but at the critical moment the Dark Angels counts as Blood Angels painted as Space Wolves army can get confusing.
   
[Post New] 2010/01/11 22:56:11
    Subject: WYSIWIG and Pink Horrors.
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Newport, S Wales

The pink in the name refers back to 2rd edition and previous, where when killed a pink horror would split into two blue horrors (this was nerfed in 3rd). If you look at the minis there is often a horror inside a horror and horrors splitting in two etc etc that is references back to the old rules. Oh and back then flamers were a separate unit (I think they are upgrades to a horrors unit now?)

But I still don't see a reason why you should have to paint them pink/blue, Paint them chrome for all I care! (actually, that would look quite cool, chrome/multi-coloured/pearlescent zeentch daemons...)
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[Post New] 2010/01/12 00:31:48
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Akron, Ohio

belial wrote:
With Gwar on this one. To me WYSIWYG includes the colour and markings and the models.
That's nice. Has nothing to do with the RaW, but nice.
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[Post New] 2010/01/12 00:42:46
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[Post New] 2010/01/12 00:53:20
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer






Commorragh (Southlake Texas)

As far as the pink horror/blue horror thing goes i think its fine to paint it either way or split it into a new color or something of the such. i play csm and my guys are a whole new paint scheme. Also as stated before the horrors are for tzeentch (best chaos god out there) and tzeentch is the god of change so a change in the color of his units or even their shape can be accounted for quite easily.


and as for the space marines debate, i say that for a special army BT SW etc you should prolly use their specific rule book so as just to avoid controversy, but i have no prooblem if the other types of codex are used for vanilla marines or even another unique chapter as long as your sure of the point value according to the codex of that type of marine.


p.s.
Leigen_Zero wrote:
But I still don't see a reason why you should have to paint them pink/blue, Paint them chrome for all I care! (actually, that would look quite cool, chrome/multi-coloured/pearlescent zeentch daemons...)


^i agree that would look pretty ssweet

-Swan Co

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Armies:
Children of Tzeentch (1850 points) W:11/L:6/D:5
Kabal of the Twisted Storm (750 points) W:4/L:1/D:1

High_Marshal_Helbrecht wrote:
I just couldn't get over the nerve of the guy ya know?..What did he expect?
Her to spin round and look him in the eyes
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[Post New] 2010/01/12 01:25:35
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus






RustyKnight wrote:
belial wrote:
With Gwar on this one. To me WYSIWYG includes the colour and markings and the models.
That's nice. Has nothing to do with the RaW, but nice.
The RAW supports using your Dark Angels as Space Wolves just as much as it supports using your Dark Angels as Tyranids, there is simply nothing really dealing with it, either way you are counting your army as something that it is not.
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[Post New] 2010/01/12 01:40:07
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Commorragh (Southlake Texas)

The RAW supports using your Dark Angels as Space Wolves just as much as it supports using your Dark Angels as Tyranids, there is simply nothing really dealing with it, either way you are counting your army as something that it is not.


i disagree, as long as you only use the basic units and not units specific to that chapter of marines then they are for all intents and purposes the same thing with a different look. however if you used units individual to lets say space wolves that the da dont have then i say you shouldnt use it, but for the most part thats not the case

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Armies:
Children of Tzeentch (1850 points) W:11/L:6/D:5
Kabal of the Twisted Storm (750 points) W:4/L:1/D:1

High_Marshal_Helbrecht wrote:
I just couldn't get over the nerve of the guy ya know?..What did he expect?
Her to spin round and look him in the eyes
"You sweaty mass of nerd meat you, the way you fondle my tits like two plastic stompa kits makes me hotter than a Salamander with Heavy Flamer...Kiss me you socially inept pustle of manliness!! BE MY CALGAR!"
 
   
[Post New] 2010/01/12 07:25:27
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I started a new thread on the Space Marine colors topic.

Let this one just be for the Horrors. Sorry for derailing it in the first place.
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Archonate wrote:Do they [Space Marines] ruin the game? Nah. If you don't like em, don't play them. If you wanna play em, go ahead. But don't get all bent out of shape if your opponent looks disdainfully upon your lack of originality while tabling you in 4 turns because he's got beating SMs down to an exact science after fighting them for hundreds of consecutive games.
 
   
[Post New] 2010/01/12 17:43:37
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Lord of the Fleet






London

kuro_khan wrote:I started a new thread on the Space Marine colors topic.

Let this one just be for the Horrors. Sorry for derailing it in the first place.


It's fine, I've got the answer now so you guys can do whatever you want with the thread.
   
 
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