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Thanks for the comments guys

Keep 'em coming!

Here are a few replies before today’s progress on the project.

@ s.j.mccartney I would do my vehicles at the same time, in fact I always plan to, but I tend to rush the second one as I start to get bored and want to move on. So I do some other modelling like the infantry I was working on today then do the second vehicle after a few weeks or so. This works out quite well as I can spend time analysing the vehicle for errors so I can improve on the next one.

to quote Fulgrim's attainment of perfection 'That which causes we trials shall yield us triumph, and that which makes our hearts ache shall fill us with gladness. For the only true happiness is to learn, to advance and to improve. None of this could happen without rejecting error, ignorance, and imperfection. We must pass out of the darkness to reach the light.'

@ DC_Ravenor I use GW paints for all brush work but tamiya paint are absolutely brilliant for use in an airbrush so I use both... I cannot use tamiya for any detailed work as it dries so fast.


Here are some of the converted shoulder pads I made today. The top image shows the shoulder pads with spall sheet of plasticard glued on, the second show the complete set, fully trimmed and filed to shape.


Some of the bases I made covered with crushed plaster. Once painted this looks exactly like scale crushed concrete.



The army so far. The tactical marines shoulder pads have come out really nicely.


The tactical marines after receiving a basecoat. I applied this with the airbrush, I using the mid tones for the finished models. (A mid red and a light grey)


The bases after painting. I unevenly sprayed a mid then light grey over the surfaces. A little extra shading will be created with a dusting of weathering powder, the same power will be applied to the lower legs of the marine to tie him in neatly with the base.


The marines’ heads and backpacks were sprayed separately from the models themselves for easy painting.

I also finished the landraider today. Some pics will be uploaded tomorrow.

Cheers guys

Wow. I am stealing that plaster idea. Looks awesome!

I've never seen shoulder pad trims done like that before. An interesting idea which I may steal. I love the extra protection given by the extended rims on some of the CSM shoulder pads, and never have enough of them.

May have a go at creating some using your method

@ em_en_oh_pee the best plaster to use I found is the plaster cast scenery you can get on eBay. All you do is crush it up in a vice or with a hammer. The great thing about cast plaster is the mouldings, when crushed up you can see some of the original details on some of the pieces which makes it look really realistic.




As promised here are some pictures of the finished landraider... well it’s finished apart from the storm bolter and I haven’t added a crewman.


The finished bases


The marines after a coat of Baal red wash. I was planning on getting all 10 done today but quickly abandoned the idea going for quality over quantity.


The marines part way through the painting process. Definitely starting to take shape.


Where it all happens... though in a state of mid-project delusion. Note that the paints you see is under half my collection



Some shots of the first 4 marines, 4 down 16 to 26 to go I haven’t decided whether to have 2 of 3 tactical squads.


The marines in front of the LR.

Cheers guys

Whew! Those look more like WWII models than 40K models. Seriously, great weathering. Not everyone likes this, but I think the realistic looking stuff looks way better than the cartoony stuff.

Good work and thanks for the tip. I have some cast plaster at my disposal, so that will work well.

Some outstanding work there. Very impressive.

Amazing look to your models, looks like they've been fighting for months with no downtime. Very cool.

incredible, how do you cut the exess plasticard off the shoulderpad?

When I've done it in the past, I just used a Dremel. Works rather well for me.

And now I shall nit pick, and point out the studded shoulder pads are on the wrong side. Boooooo! The army continues to look nice however, with really well done weather effects.

I love what you've got, you're work is just awesome.

Nice weathering job, those shoulderpads look great!

As to the choice of weathered or cartoony, its completely personal choice. For my Mentors vanilla army, I'll be doing them pristine, but thats because:

A: I am a virgin painter (And havent the faintest clue how to do weathering)
B: White and green when pristine (poem?) looks awesome to me
C: It is my idea of what a space marine is, proud and clean, but you can just as easily say he is in the middle of a long campaign, or the end, or the beginning.

It would be a shame to waste that talent though, so I applaud you on the choice of rusty, worn marines!

Keep going!

Unbelievably awesome!

Easily some of the best (if not THE best) weathered/battle damaged marines I've ever seen.

Wow just WOW. I absolutely love the land raider and the marines. I can not wait to see this army grow.

real great stuff there sons!

I envy your skill!

DC

I notice some of you are interested in the fact that I weather my marines. I shall explain why.

It is true that almost all chapters constantly tend all there war gear so it looks and works perfectly. But this is in-between battles when they have time to return to their cruisers and battle barges etc. the sons of Orar are one of these chapters which are meticulous about the upkeep of their war gear. But in a long running campaign when marines cannot return to the arming rooms of their starships their armour will get dusty and worn, especially when many worlds in the galaxy have hostile environments. the planet my Sons of Orar are currently engaged on (for my colour scheme) is a fierce desert world with occasionally heavy storms of acidic rain which turns the dust on the planet into a thick cloying mud, like that which has dried on the Landraider. As we know adamantium does not rust but paint on armour can discolour and get grimy with time spent in such an environment.

@ Captain Shrike : to cut away the excess plasticard around the outside of the shoulder pad I just used a sharp craft knife. the instead is a bit harder... the best way is with a small rotary file though you can use a knife, this tends to take up more time than with the file and can get really fiddly at times.

@ Aduro : sarcasm or not the knobbly shoulder pad is always on the left shoulder of Corvus-pattern armour so HA!!

@ The happy reaper : 'cartoony' or clean armour is great to start off with, I’d love to see some pics of your models. If you want any painting tips feel free to ask and if you want I can teach you some simple weathering techniques e.g. paint chips, these are really simple and can give each model a bit more character without making them look like they've been in combat without respite for years. If you want some help or tip just private message me.

Who thinks I should try and do a company of these marines? No promises, it’s still in the idea stage... but who knows...

Is the LR missing access points?

Yeah, but I’m not really bothered... I’m more a painter than a gamer and anyway Calgar’s LR doesn't have side doors...

Nicely done.
I like how the LR turned out. The vertical rust-like gradients worked well as a base especially after adding the additional weathering.

Keep it up!

SONS of ORAR wrote:@ Aduro : sarcasm or not the knobbly shoulder pad is always on the left shoulder of Corvus-pattern armour so HA!!

Are you sure? I could have sworn the old fluff on the studded shoulders were that they were weaker, but much easier to mass produce during the times when thousands of Marines were being created during the crusades. As a result, the studded shoulder pad was always on the right arm, and Marines were trained to walk sidewaysish into the fight, facing their left shoulder at the enemy, which makes more sense when you consider how they hold and fire their Bolters.

I don't really care that much, as I'll always make changes to make something look cooler if I don't care for particular fluff (my t-fex looks nothing like the picture in the codex). I just like poking fun at people, especially the ones with Really Cool stuff.

That may be so with Mark 5 "Heresy Armour" which came into production just before the Horus heresy (hence the name). This was a series of plates of ceramic, plast-steel and adamantium which were bolted on top of each other. Corvus or mark 6 armour came after the heresy and is a mixture of different armours mixed up in a way. But the knobbly shoulder pad is definitely on the left. Have a look at http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Power_armor#Mark_6_.22Corvus_Armor.22

I always mix in a bit of Acrylic Retarder to make the paints last that bit longer and Tamiya makes their own one as well but still your mini's are looking fab.

[DC]R

Definitely love the weathering going on here..

Wish I had the skill to do what you've done with your marines !

so young yet so talented, fifteen years of painting and i can just paint a face! sigh! but at least I can be inspired to keep on going every time I see this work! not just good, but beautiful, each model is really a work of art!

The work is fabulous

My only criticism would be I think you've overdone the weathering a bit. The technique is great but this does not look like some techmarine's pride and joy.

Real tanks never look quite that bad when they're in use - they get that way by being left to rot for a few years!

Chimera_Calvin wrote:The work is fabulous

My only criticism would be I think you've overdone the weathering a bit. The technique is great but this does not look like some techmarine's pride and joy.

Real tanks never look quite that bad when they're in use - they get that way by being left to rot for a few years!

You can always explain things in the fluff-world of 40k.

E.g. A salt heavy atmosphere on one planet - advanced rusting on normal metals, such as Leman Russes

Acidic rain is a good reason as any.

@ Orar, thanks, I'll be sure to send you some pics, and call on you for advice once I start painting them (soon hopefully.) I might take you up on those weathering techniques later too.

I have an idea for an old dreadnought (the main reason i'm starting 40k) who refuses to allow minor damage to be repaired, only his armor sealed.

An idea for the future.

I'm highly anticipating those termies btw.

@ Chimera_Calvin : I see where you're coming from. I don’t think the dust or rust is OTT as I studied a number of German tanks from battles in Russia in the second world war which were in a pretty messy shape, but still operational and you have to remember that many imperial planets have very harsh conditions compared to Earth, e.g. Vraks. Though I was thinking about the mud and from the amount of it up the sides it must have travelled through mud about 6 feet deep. This is not unheard of for a LR but I truth if I were doing it again then I would only have about a cm of that thick mud at most up the sides and not do quite so many rust streaks( it is adamantium after all! ). Like my other LR I have pics of on Dakka Dakka.

Maybe things have changed/been retconned/etc. but:





I've always seen and remembered the studded shoulder-pad being on the left too...

I have been showing off this army at my shop. Good work and keep it up. If you put the shoulderpads on one side or the other, its your choice. Different chapters do different things. I think it looks gorgeous!

I honestly think people convert and paint models for many different reasons. Some people want the models to represent the fluff to a very high degree and some, like sons of orar, are obviously intent on extending and perfecting their painting skills. I feel he has definitely acheived something awesome with these marines and what shoulder pad is on which shoulder is not that important.

keep up the good work

cheers
Blackhand

Do it for Orar, get an entire company painted! There would be few things that would look sweeter than 100 marines and tanks and dreads and a t-hawk painted up to this standard!! Don't give up!