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They're ALL mostly silly.....

But fantastic - keep them coming.

That one about starting the game is really bugging me. I'm sure someone had a reading of RAW which meant that there was no way to actually START a game.....

This thread, although funny, annoys me to no end. The fact that people will ACTUALLY try all these loads of BS moves on other gamers saddens me. But after saying that, they really are funny.

My favorite is rerolling rerolls. GW say you can never reroll a reroll correct? So when you roll to see who goes first, and it's a tie, you have to reroll. If it becomes a tie again, techiquely, the game should be over because you can'r reroll a reroll

ArbitorIan wrote:They're ALL mostly silly.....

But fantastic - keep them coming.

That one about starting the game is really bugging me. I'm sure someone had a reading of RAW which meant that there was no way to actually START a game.....

How you deploy is not in the rulebook.

KingCracker wrote:This thread, although funny, annoys me to no end. The fact that people will ACTUALLY try all these loads of BS moves on other gamers saddens me. But after saying that, they really are funny.

It would definitely annoy me to no end also, but I haven't seen ANY of these things used in a game. Have you? I'm under the impression we feel people do actually do these things, because of the method we see them 'ruled' here.

This thread is hilarious and awesome.

My vote for silly is that vehicles with cover saves cannot use them unless they are also obscured, as somewhat recently discussed. (I'm still not convinced but I'm outvoted.) Hooray for having a save you can't roll!

Harlequins do not benefit from Furious Charge, as their rules list them as getting "Furious Assault", which of course has no rules as to what it does.

Only Independent characters need to be WYSIWYG/Only optional weapons need to be WYSIWYG.

Imperial Guards Frag Grenades don't do anything.

Why not Gwar?

Pika_power wrote:Why not Gwar?

The IG codex says:
Frag Grenades: See the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook.

There are no rules for "Frag Grenades" in the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook, only "Assault Grenades".

In the Ork codex, Stikkbombs count as frag grenades in all respects.

Do they work?

Assault grenades includes frag grenades, plasma grenades, and so on.

Just because you cannot look up the word Frag Grenade or a rules section called "Frag Grenades" doesn't exist, doesn't mean they aren't addressed in the rules.

No model in codex Tyranids can use Bone Swords. Bone Swords only give a bonus to Tyranids that use them. There is no unit in the codex called a Tyranid.

Steelmage99 wrote:Assault grenades includes frag grenades, plasma grenades, and so on

No, Frag Grenades are given as an Example. There are no rules for Frag Grenades, only Assault Grenades.

Gwar! wrote:

Steelmage99 wrote:Assault grenades includes frag grenades, plasma grenades, and so on

No, Frag Grenades are given as an Example. There are no rules for Frag Grenades, only Assault Grenades.

Does any unit have "assault grenades"?

Chaos Daemons do; under aura of acquiescence.

Davor wrote:My favorite is rerolling rerolls. GW say you can never reroll a reroll correct? So when you roll to see who goes first, and it's a tie, you have to reroll. If it becomes a tie again, techiquely, the game should be over because you can'r reroll a reroll

In that case, you start a new game.

Klawz wrote:

Davor wrote:My favorite is rerolling rerolls. GW say you can never reroll a reroll correct? So when you roll to see who goes first, and it's a tie, you have to reroll. If it becomes a tie again, techiquely, the game should be over because you can'r reroll a reroll

In that case, you start a new game.

Of course, but in a RAW Tourney situation, you'd instantly draw, right?

Dark Eldar have jetbikers with the toughness boost clearly included in their stat line, however it never states this, and the BRB states that jetbikes get +1 toughness. So DE have T4+1 toughness bikers.

Culler wrote:

Gwar! wrote:

Steelmage99 wrote:Assault grenades includes frag grenades, plasma grenades, and so on

No, Frag Grenades are given as an Example. There are no rules for Frag Grenades, only Assault Grenades.

Does any unit have "assault grenades"?

Page 75 Chaos Dæmons
Page 100 Space Marines
Page 57 Space Wolves

Bjorn's useless invulnerable save or has that already been mentioned?

Shrike unable to actually give infiltrate to anyone.

If you have any spec character with chapter tactics he automatically overrides Calgar's rules...

FlingitNow wrote:Shrike unable to actually give infiltrate to anyone.

Incorrect. He grants Infiltrate to the unit he is with just fine, it's just that the unit cannot deploy as Infiltrators. They can outflank though, because they have the Infiltrate USR.

If you have any spec character with chapter tactics he automatically overrides Calgar's rules...

Again, incorrect. It does not "override" anything. What happens is that Calgars "God of War" only applies to units with "Combat Tactics", which is lost or exchanged when a Model with Chapter Tactics is also included in the army,

Incorrect. He grants Infiltrate to the unit he is with just fine, it's just that the unit cannot deploy as Infiltrators. They can outflank though, because they have the Infiltrate USR.

Ok my wording was imprecise, but the point still remains

Again, incorrect. It does not "override" anything. What happens is that Calgars "God of War" only applies to units with "Combat Tactics", which is lost or exchanged when a Model with Chapter Tactics is also included in the army,

Please see above. I'm not writing a rule it was obvious what I was talking about...

FlingitNow wrote:Please see above. I'm not writing a rule it was obvious what I was talking about...

It was not obvious to me, mainly because it was completely wrong.

It was not obvious to me, mainly because it was completely wrong.

It in fact was correct as you pointed out. The wording may have been imprecise but the point was still correct...

I am starting to wonder if you have a severe problem with the english language or at least with interacting with other human beings as you seem to fail to understand the simplest things...

Gwar! wrote:

Steelmage99 wrote:Assault grenades includes frag grenades, plasma grenades, and so on

No, Frag Grenades are given as an Example. There are no rules for Frag Grenades, only Assault Grenades.

So as Frag Grenades are given as an example of an Assault Grenade, it really isn't an Assault Grenade? That is completely illogical.

Assault Grenades are a category of grenades, which includes Frag Grenades. Hence Frag Grenades follow the rules for the category they belong to, which is Assault Grenades.

You see Assault Grenades as being different from Frag Grenades. The rest of us sees Frag Grenades as a sub-category of Assault Grenades, just like Plasma Grenades for example.

Steelmage99 wrote:

Gwar! wrote:

Steelmage99 wrote:Assault grenades includes frag grenades, plasma grenades, and so on

No, Frag Grenades are given as an Example. There are no rules for Frag Grenades, only Assault Grenades.

So as Frag Grenades are given as an example of an Assault Grenade, it really isn't an Assault Grenade? That is completely illogical.

Assault Grenades are a category of grenades, which includes Frag Grenades. Hence Frag Grenades follow the rules for the category they belong to, which is Assault Grenades.

You see Assault Grenades as being different from Frag Grenades. The rest of us sees Frag Grenades as a sub-category of Assault Grenades, just like Plasma Grenades for example.

Completely accurate. Pg 36 of the Warhammer 40k rulebook.
Assault Grenades (e.g. frag grenades, plasma grenades and so on)

so it would appear your completely wrong gwar, sorry

No, I am not. Just because some frag grenades are given as an example, not all frag grenades are.

Gwar! wrote:No, I am not. Just because some frag grenades are given as an example, not all frag grenades are.

umm define all frag grenades. I assuming everything called a frag grenade is a frag grenade so please explain...