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Che-Vito wrote:Reading fail on your part:

Orders: Pick an Order, Pick a Unit, Test Ld
Wording for Bring it Down: Pick an Order, Pick a Unit, Test Ld, "choose one enemy unit/vehicle" [aka; pick a target].

Did you fail to read the tail end of the sentence describing what those Orders actually do?

Yes I did completely

From the recent BRB FAQ v1.2:

Q: Does a unit being transported by a vehicle that has
arrived by Deep Stike that turn also count as having
arrived by Deep Strike? (p95)
A: Yes.

So Nid players who drop troops in via Mycetic Spores can drop them in difficult terrain without fear of their troops having to take dangerous terrain tests upon disembarking as a Mycetic Spore is not a vehicle.

Maelstrom808 wrote:From the recent BRB FAQ v1.2:

Q: Does a unit being transported by a vehicle that has
arrived by Deep Stike that turn also count as having
arrived by Deep Strike? (p95)
A: Yes.

So Nid players who drop troops in via Mycetic Spores can drop them in difficult terrain without fear of their troops having to take dangerous terrain tests upon disembarking as a Mycetic Spore is not a vehicle.

See the Tyranid FAQ which states that a Tyranid Alpha can't get into a unit's Mycetic Spore because the Mycetic Spores aren't vehicles. And that the spore pods HAVE TO be used by the unit if purchased.

solkan wrote:See the Tyranid FAQ which states that a Tyranid Alpha can't get into a unit's Mycetic Spore because the Mycetic Spores aren't vehicles.

No it just says they can't, with no justification given after that.
It's a "cuz GW said so" situation.

solkan wrote:
See the Tyranid FAQ which states that a Tyranid Alpha can't get into a unit's Mycetic Spore because the Mycetic Spores aren't vehicles. And that the spore pods HAVE TO be used by the unit if purchased.

I am painfully aware of the FAQs ruling.

HoverBoy wrote:No it just says they can't, with no justification given after that.
It's a "cuz GW said so" situation.

Yeah, the "because it's not a vehicle" was player's justification for it, not GWs...although it probably had a hand in the decision.

Maelstrom808 wrote:From the recent BRB FAQ v1.2:

Q: Does a unit being transported by a vehicle that has
arrived by Deep Stike that turn also count as having
arrived by Deep Strike? (p95)
A: Yes.

So Nid players who drop troops in via Mycetic Spores can drop them in difficult terrain without fear of their troops having to take dangerous terrain tests upon disembarking as a Mycetic Spore is not a vehicle.

The fact that the Mycetic Spore is not a vehicle means nothing more than that rules that apply to vehicles don't apply to it. Tyranids climbing out of it into difficult terrain will still have to take a Dangerous Terrain test because the Mycetic Spore's rules entry points out that those Tyranids are Deep Striking. So it winds up working the same way as it would for a transport vehicle.

Warboss Ghazgalls Furious charge and Stikk bombs are both useless to him as his strength cant go past 10 and hes allways inititive 1.

rogersss wrote:Warboss Ghazgalls Furious charge and Stikk bombs are both useless to him as his strength cant go past 10 and hes allways inititive 1.

That's because his rules were written for an edition in which he didn't have to use his power klaw in close combat.

insaniak wrote:

Maelstrom808 wrote:From the recent BRB FAQ v1.2:

Q: Does a unit being transported by a vehicle that has
arrived by Deep Stike that turn also count as having
arrived by Deep Strike? (p95)
A: Yes.

So Nid players who drop troops in via Mycetic Spores can drop them in difficult terrain without fear of their troops having to take dangerous terrain tests upon disembarking as a Mycetic Spore is not a vehicle.

The fact that the Mycetic Spore is not a vehicle means nothing more than that rules that apply to vehicles don't apply to it. Tyranids climbing out of it into difficult terrain will still have to take a Dangerous Terrain test because the Mycetic Spore's rules entry points out that those Tyranids are Deep Striking. So it winds up working the same way as it would for a transport vehicle.

Good catch. I won't let it dampen my spirits though as I'll simply look at it as GW doing at least a little to bring some sort of parity to drop pods and spore pods...even if that had nothing to do with the ruling

insaniak wrote:

rogersss wrote:Warboss Ghazgalls Furious charge and Stikk bombs are both useless to him as his strength cant go past 10 and hes allways inititive 1.

That's because his rules were written for an edition in which he didn't have to use his power klaw in close combat.

Ahem!
He can use the stikkbommz if he only wants to inflict a single S4 attack on a vehicle! Useful if you don't want a Walker dead in your turn because of exposure to enemy fire!

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

insaniak wrote:

rogersss wrote:Warboss Ghazgalls Furious charge and Stikk bombs are both useless to him as his strength cant go past 10 and hes allways inititive 1.

That's because his rules were written for an edition in which he didn't have to use his power klaw in close combat.

Ahem!
He can use the stikkbommz if he only wants to inflict a single S4 attack on a vehicle! Useful if you don't want a Walker dead in your turn because of exposure to enemy fire!

That is actually a good idea...

ArbitorIan, you should check the FAQs for most of these, since Doom of Malant'ai counts as a Zoanthrope in all respects to any special rules he uses, as well as the swarmlord counting as a hive tyrant for porposes of powers and rules, same for old one eye.

Q: Tyranid Special Characters. Are Tyranid Special
Characters considered to be special versions of the
standard creatures of their type for the purposes of
using psychic powers, biomorphs and special rules? For
example, is the Swarmlord considered to be a Hive
Tyrant for the purposes of using Hive Tyrant psychic
powers? Similarly, is Deathleaper considered to be a
Lictor for the purposes of Chameleonic Skin and
Pheromone Trail, is the Doom of Malan’tai considered
to be a Zoanthrope for the purposes of Warp Field, is
Old One Eye considered to be Carnifex for the
purposes of Living Battering Ram and are Ymgarl
Genestealers considered to be Genestealers for the
purposes of Brood Telepathy?
A. Yes in all cases. -Tyranid FAQ

Brood Lord wrote:ArbitorIan, you should check the FAQs for most of these

FYI

initial post wrote:Last update was at Sat, 29/May/2010 04:49:12

OT--the Parasite of Mortrex cannot join a unit DSing via spod--it has to wait until everyone gets settled in and then go join them.

/sigh

The OP points out that the FAQs are not official anyway with an eyeroll emoticon, so saying "They FAQ'ed it though" is kinda ignoring a huge point he is making.

My buddy pointed out that the Venom Cannon has it's own pair of eyes, which creates problems when drawing LOS by pure RAW for shooting.

About the (outdated) DE one, DE jetbikes aren't actually classes as jetbikes so they are still T4

Chuck Norris wrote:About the (outdated) DE one, DE jetbikes aren't actually classes as jetbikes so they are still T4

Not sure which codex you're looking at, but in both Dark Eldar codexes so far Reavers have been classed as Eldar Jetbikes.

One thing on Dark Angels. The Ravenwing Bike Squadron..

This is if you don't take Sammael.
You buy the 6 bikes, 1 attack bike and 1 land speeder.
The 6 bikes are not scoring, however the attack bike and the speeder will be.

If you take Sammael then the 6 bikes will be.


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Also Rule book page 3.(big one) ... if the model bought from gw is supplied with a base you must glue it to tte base. No pinniing, no modifying, no leaving flying bases unglued.

Also if your using anything other then the base gw supplied, you must have opponents permission.