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If he stole that much at once, assuming he is found guilty, he must have stolen it to sell. I agree he must have needed money very badly or he was just rock stupid. No way that much stuff can go missing that quickly and not get noticed fairly quickly.

40kenthusiast wrote:I'm with the others in this thread on thinking the guy had a sudden and urgent need for money. A guy in EVE stole all his corp's assets, according to him to pay for his wife's surgery. Maybe a similar thing?

Yeah that was the first thing that crossed my mind. There are no excuses from stealing its morally wrong yet... If it happened to me and in the balance was my wife's life and my own credibility... GW would be butt nakid.

I hate to say it, but for every thief who might have a 'good' reason to steal, there's a lot that just get greedy.

Managers stealing from stores is very common in retail, especially big corporate businesses. I wonder if part of it is the often massive gap between store staff and 'corporate' staff.

I know when I worked retail a lot of the managers for the company I worked for (a pet store chain) got caught doing things like this... One guy got caught processing returns of tenc ent crickets for hundreds of dollars!

Mind I dont think there's a "good" reason to steal, neither I was saying that... I just know even the most honest guy on earth would have problems not doing so if faced with a drastic situation.

The more I think about the more I think it must be something like that.

This guy wouldnt after working for GW for about 15 years just turn round and steal a massive amount he couldnt hope to get away with unless there was a good reason.

Perhaps he owed some unsavory sorts? Perhaps he was about to lose the family home? I dont know, but I do know this guy pretty well as I worked with him for a year and I always thought he was a straight up family man.

My sister's old manager did this (she works at a petrol station) and it was a bit more money IIRC. Turns out the manager had a compulsive gambling problem.

Here in St. Louis, when there was a GW store, an employee got caught stealing. He was forging bits orders (before they revamped their bits ordering system and before they did away with it entirely) and not paying for them.
"Just bits" you're thinking. Right?
Well, back then you could order an entire model as bits. So, if you order 1 of each tank sprue, you got the whole tank.
After the case was over, they did some promotion and used all the recovered stuff that couldn't be reused by GW as give-aways in the store.

Eric

You realise that as the guy's British (well, Geordie ), his wife's vital surgery will be covered under the NHS, so that excuse is out. Also, it seems like some rather odd amounts, so is it all money or did he steal product?

My money's on resale on ebay to help bolster the meagre income of a GW employee....

That isn't that much. He stole what, 2 box sets or so?

Thats the thing with living in the UK, the welfare and benefits system, state education and NHS mean that there is literaly no good reason to steal. The main reasons for theft over here are

1 Feeding a drug/alcohol addiction
2 Greed
3 Trying to live beyond your means
4 Trying to pay off dodgy loan sharks because you have lived beyond your means

If the guy stole £8000 over two months you have to question the company for not flagging this sooner. Bad stock takes, high wasteage (shrinkage) and the odd few pounds going missing are explainable, but anything over £10 missing normaly sets alarm bells ringing with larger companies. My guess was he was in some serious debt and was desperate.

Talking of thieving and things getting swept under the carpet, I remember hearing of a guy in the IT procurement team at a company I used to work for who got busted for buying stuff and selling it on Ebay, apparently the police were involved and raided a garage which had a few thousand pounds worth of lap tops and other bits. The company however did not press charges because his daddy was a director

40kenthusiast wrote:I'm with the others in this thread on thinking the guy had a sudden and urgent need for money. A guy in EVE stole all his corp's assets, according to him to pay for his wife's surgery. Maybe a similar thing?

Nope, he's from the U.K., I hear that's one of those other industrialized nations (I.E. all the other ones) that actually provides healthcare to its citizens.

wow - at least he got caught and is being served.

RogueMarket wrote:wow - at least he got caught and is being served.

nothing proved yet dude. "at least" NOTHING

MeanGreenStompa wrote:My money's on resale on ebay to help bolster the meagre income of a GW employee....

I'm not sure Feebay is the best way to bolster income anymore.

only on Dakka can we have a two page debate about some thieving bastard manager who stole from the shop he worked at.

He stole. He was stupid as basic controls mean any large discrepencies are caught at small store level. He gets punished. Thread ends.

Who gives a crap about "potential" reasons he "had" to do it.

fullheadofhair wrote:only on Dakka can we have a two page debate about some thieving bastard manager who stole from the shop he worked at.

He stole. He was stupid as basic controls mean any large discrepencies are caught at small store level. He gets punished. Thread ends.

Who gives a crap about "potential" reasons he "had" to do it.

scuse me!!??!

Well to hell with the judicial system, anyone who is accused of stealign automatically did it and there shoul;d just be the death penalty cos there can never be any mitigating or exceptional circumstances.

so speaks fullheadofhair. Thank god I dont live in your world dude, sieg heil indeed.

Because people like drama?

sleazy wrote:

fullheadofhair wrote:only on Dakka can we have a two page debate about some thieving bastard manager who stole from the shop he worked at.

He stole. He was stupid as basic controls mean any large discrepencies are caught at small store level. He gets punished. Thread ends.

Who gives a crap about "potential" reasons he "had" to do it.

scuse me!!??!

Well to hell with the judicial system, anyone who is accused of stealign automatically did it and there shoul;d just be the death penalty cos there can never be any mitigating or exceptional circumstances.

so speaks fullheadofhair. Thank god I dont live in your world dude, sieg heil indeed.

Clearly you've never read any of our archived recasting debates...

fullheadofhair wrote:Who gives a crap about "potential" reasons he "had" to do it.

Well im sorry for been curious about it?

sleazy wrote:

fullheadofhair wrote:only on Dakka can we have a two page debate about some thieving bastard manager who stole from the shop he worked at.

He stole. He was stupid as basic controls mean any large discrepencies are caught at small store level. He gets punished. Thread ends.

Who gives a crap about "potential" reasons he "had" to do it.

scuse me!!??!

Well to hell with the judicial system, anyone who is accused of stealign automatically did it and there shoul;d just be the death penalty cos there can never be any mitigating or exceptional circumstances.

so speaks fullheadofhair. Thank god I dont live in your world dude, sieg heil indeed.

oh do grow up

The point I am making is how did a newspaper article about a person being charged with theft get to two pages (inc my two posts). Debating whether or not he did it because of medical bills???? What does that have to do with whether or not he is guilty. In UK, legal reporting restrictions prevent many details coming out so anything is just pointless wild speculation.

Come on - this has got to be one of the most ridiculous threads going.

What really sucks about this, is that it will lead to a price hike.

fullheadofhair wrote:

sleazy wrote:

fullheadofhair wrote:only on Dakka can we have a two page debate about some thieving bastard manager who stole from the shop he worked at.

He stole. He was stupid as basic controls mean any large discrepencies are caught at small store level. He gets punished. Thread ends.

Who gives a crap about "potential" reasons he "had" to do it.

scuse me!!??!

Well to hell with the judicial system, anyone who is accused of stealign automatically did it and there shoul;d just be the death penalty cos there can never be any mitigating or exceptional circumstances.

so speaks fullheadofhair. Thank god I dont live in your world dude, sieg heil indeed.

oh do grow up

The point I am making is how did a newspaper article about a person being charged with theft get to two pages (inc my two posts). Debating whether or not he did it because of medical bills???? What does that have to do with whether or not he is guilty. In UK, legal reporting restrictions prevent many details coming out so anything is just pointless wild speculation.

Come on - this has got to be one of the most ridiculous threads going.

Here is something interesting to think about.

Take the number of Dakka member that exists , and think how many of them have something to say about the incident.
You'll be lucky if it isnt 1000 + pages if they all decided to voice their opinion.

After all , even you already contributed 2 post out of the 30+ replies in this thread so far , which is atleast 6%

fullheadofhair wrote:

sleazy wrote:

fullheadofhair wrote:only on Dakka can we have a two page debate about some thieving bastard manager who stole from the shop he worked at.

He stole. He was stupid as basic controls mean any large discrepencies are caught at small store level. He gets punished. Thread ends.

Who gives a crap about "potential" reasons he "had" to do it.

scuse me!!??!

Well to hell with the judicial system, anyone who is accused of stealign automatically did it and there shoul;d just be the death penalty cos there can never be any mitigating or exceptional circumstances.

so speaks fullheadofhair. Thank god I dont live in your world dude, sieg heil indeed.

oh do grow up

The point I am making is how did a newspaper article about a person being charged with theft get to two pages (inc my two posts). Debating whether or not he did it because of medical bills???? What does that have to do with whether or not he is guilty. In UK, legal reporting restrictions prevent many details coming out so anything is just pointless wild speculation.

Come on - this has got to be one of the most ridiculous threads going.

Simply put? Threads like these get really going because the posts are either in regards to company policies(OMG! they shouldn't legal action him! he's not hurting anyone but a faceless corporation!) or just people posting silly things to bump their post counts.

And then you get the comments that are just...odd. Things like the morality of stealing(as long as you have a good reason!).

Because hey, laws are just guidelines! Not like...set in stone or anything!

Didn't you realise that there are new laws that bypass the old laws. They make are old laws subjective to certain moral standings. Meaning that aslong as you have a good moral reason for breaking the law they just tell you not to do it again?

Oshova

BrookM wrote:Because people like drama?

No no drama.
We don't want no drama drama.
No no drama.
No no no no drama.

Kanluwen wrote:
Simply put? Threads like these get really going because the posts are either in regards to company policies(OMG! they shouldn't legal action him! he's not hurting anyone but a faceless corporation!) or just people posting silly things to bump their post counts.

And then you get the comments that are just...odd. Things like the morality of stealing(as long as you have a good reason!).

Because hey, laws are just guidelines! Not like...set in stone or anything!

I know, they shouldn't take legal action on him! Stupid corporations!

Ha, maybe he was pretending to be a Dark Eldar pirate and stealing stuff.

All though, he could have had a good excuse for taking stuff. Maybe his kid's were sick or something.

I have no idea what you're talking about

No reason is good enough to break the law.

I was just doing everything you said in your quote. Lighten up a little?

NEVER!

Serious thread is serious!