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Fateweaver wrote:Egads. The real tough guys can bully with fists, only pussies need to draw knives or guns.

When one kid is 6' 2" and 200lbs and the other is 5'5" and 120 the bigger kid might as well have a knife or a gun. The smaller kid is just leveling the playing field.

JEB_Stuart wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:Rates of youth violence haven't really risen at all, the lethality in some areas have increased slightly because of the introduction of firearms, but this is hardly an increasing trend anymore. It kind of peaked in the late 80's and early 90's. I honestly doubt theres been any sort of increase over the last century beyond short bursts of area or trend related violence (such as ethnic tensions or gang related issues).

http://www.cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/youthviolence/stats_at-a_glance/hr_race_91-05.html

Stats appreciated. That aside, how does this do anything to prove that knife fights were more common, or prevalent? You can just as easily beat someone to death with a club, or your fists, as knife them...

My information is primarily anecdotal before they began really actively tracking the numbers. Throughout history we've been a violent species, and what did we have before? Segregation? The depression? Urban street gangs? Familial or clan rivalries? To think that it's been getting somehow "worse" is silly, especially given the obvious prevalence of deadly weapons in the hands of children in years gone by. It wasn't so long ago that a kid without a knife was an odd thing to see.


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ShumaGorath wrote:

JEB_Stuart wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:Rates of youth violence haven't really risen at all, the lethality in some areas have increased slightly because of the introduction of firearms, but this is hardly an increasing trend anymore. It kind of peaked in the late 80's and early 90's. I honestly doubt theres been any sort of increase over the last century beyond short bursts of area or trend related violence (such as ethnic tensions or gang related issues).

http://www.cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/youthviolence/stats_at-a_glance/hr_race_91-05.html

Stats appreciated. That aside, how does this do anything to prove that knife fights were more common, or prevalent? You can just as easily beat someone to death with a club, or your fists, as knife them...

My information is primarily anecdotal before they began really actively tracking the numbers. Throughout history we've been a violent species, and what did we have before? Segregation? The depression? Urban street gangs? Familial or clan rivalries? To think that it's been getting somehow "worse" is silly, especially given the obvious prevalence of deadly weapons in the hands of children in years gone by. It wasn't so long ago that a kid without a knife was an odd thing to see.

Given the nationality flag in the OPs post though, I could be entirely wrong.

Do what I did in High School.

Find the biggest, meanest, ugliest melon-fether in the place.

Then avoid him at all costs.

My sympathies, hope the victim recovers.

My advice: Leave. Until then, keep your head down. There's no good being a dead hero.

You can leave your school, your country, and your continent, but if you plan on joining civilization, you're always gonna run into donkey-caves that would rather cut you than look at you.

Surround yourself with people who have alot to lose. Those are the ones least likely to act outside of social norms. Hood rats have nothing to live for, so they will die for anything.

I don't know what to make of all this... just one more reason I don't think I would like to raise kids. As to the satanists... man, I'm as confused as you are.

Iv always wondered why people with guns and knives even bother go to school?

You mean like gang bangers and not, you know country folk?

"I've got a shotgun, a rifle, and a four wheel drive and a country boy can survive..."

In all seriousness, this is so fething annoying. After that first fatal stabbing in an Australian school, it seems to happen every two days now.

I live in the West Australian town Roleystone. Roleystone has a reputation for being a home for some pretty bad people. There is also a large amount of youth deaths due to car crashes in this area. Yet despite this reputation, never has anyone been attacked or threatened to this extent in our two schools, or at least, not in my time. In fact, it makes me ashamed to be part of the same race as that guy.

Bust the first Punk @ss to mess with you in the head with a lunch tray. You'll get sent to a new sschool instantly. They let bad kids get away with hell but when a good kid does it, bye bye. When you get to the next school you'll already be known as the crazy lunch tray kid, and nobody will mess with you.


In fact, it makes me ashamed to be part of the same race as that guy.


Remember race and charater don't go and in hand. or we'd all be Al sharptons and Glenn Becks.

IvanTih wrote:I hate when unarmed people are killed by someone armed.I would never kill an unarmed person with a weapon.

Much safer to kill them while they're unarmed, preferably while they're back is turned, unconscious if at all possible.

Tyyr wrote:

IvanTih wrote:I hate when unarmed people are killed by someone armed.I would never kill an unarmed person with a weapon.

Much safer to kill them while they're unarmed, preferably while they're back is turned, unconscious if at all possible.

And tied up if at all possible.

I don't get it. The Year 12's (me included) are fairly tightly knit. Apart from a bit of boasting and pay-outs, there's not been anything serious especially no one bringing knives into school or crap like that. (Granted there are only about 30 of us...)

@OP: How do you know they got loads of their friends to stand outside the school with knives and guns? How do you know they were doing this because of the headmaster's inability to deal with bullying? Are you making this up?

OoieGoie wrote:Iv always wondered why people with guns and knives even bother go to school?

So I could get an education and a good job...

Don't be brainwashed to think that having guns and knives makes you ignorant, crazy, violent, outdated, or unable to be a productive member of society.

Stan Lee got it right... "With great power comes great responsibility."

Says the man holding the Chainsaw-gun...

CitizenPrime wrote:

OoieGoie wrote:Iv always wondered why people with guns and knives even bother go to school?

So I could get an education and a good job...

Don't be brainwashed to think that having guns and knives makes you ignorant, crazy, violent, outdated, or unable to be a productive member of society.

Stan Lee got it right... "With great power comes great responsibility."

Doesn't spiderman routinely fight supervillains that espouse the exact opposite philosophy?

There was a resent article in the good old South Africa a while a go, that showed that on average 3 kids (age 3-15) are killed each week!!! And thats only in the Western Cape!

ricekake87 wrote:There was a resent article in the good old South Africa a while a go, that showed that on average 3 kids (age 3-15) are killed each week!!! And thats only in the Western Cape!

Nuke it from orbit. That's the only way to be sure.

How do you feth up cutting someone throat?


Seriously though, if you wanna survive, bring a knife too. Its realism, baby. Security means fething everyone else over for your safety. First. Last. Always.

I sleep with a pistol under my pillow, a shotgun within arms reach, and an assault rifle in the closet. That how it works in my America.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:How do you feth up cutting someone throat?


Seriously though, if you wanna survive, bring a knife too. Its realism, baby. Security means fething everyone else over for your safety. First. Last. Always.

I sleep with a pistol under my pillow, a shotgun within arms reach, and an assault rifle in the closet. That how it works in my America.

Funny how all I've got is a razor on my keys and I'll probably live longer. When you surround yourself with violence it intrinsically becomes part of your life.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:How do you feth up cutting someone throat?


Seriously though, if you wanna survive, bring a knife too. Its realism, baby. Security means fething everyone else over for your safety. First. Last. Always.

I sleep with a pistol under my pillow, a shotgun within arms reach, and an assault rifle in the closet. That how it works in my America.

Funny how all I've got is a razor on my keys and I'll probably live longer.

Your probably right. Paranoia, alcoholism, and firearms dont mix well at all. Be careful with that razor though, I know you wouldn't want to hurt anyones feelings by defending yourself during a mugging.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:How do you feth up cutting someone throat?


Seriously though, if you wanna survive, bring a knife too. Its realism, baby. Security means fething everyone else over for your safety. First. Last. Always.

I sleep with a pistol under my pillow, a shotgun within arms reach, and an assault rifle in the closet. That how it works in my America.

Funny how all I've got is a razor on my keys and I'll probably live longer.

Your probably right. Paranoia, alcoholism, and firearms dont mix well at all. Be careful with that razor though, I know you wouldn't want to hurt anyones feelings by defending yourself during a mugging.

It's a 3 inch straight razor. Pretty dull and rusty at this point. I found it on the ground years ago. Somehow though, I think it'll be more handy in a mugging then all the guns you left at home.

Oh, I keep my .45 with me everywhere I go. Except class, then I keep my handy Gerber Combat model on me.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Oh, I keep my .45 with me everywhere I go. Except class, then I keep my handy Gerber Combat model on me.

They allow you to do that?

What they dont know wont get me killed when some donkey-cave tries to kill me.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:What they dont know wont get me killed when some donkey-cave tries to kill me.

Certainly not, but it could certainly get you in a heap of trouble if they searched you for whatever reason they might have. You keep it in your car or are you just always packing when your in class? Not to be rude, but that would creep me the feth out if I was your classmate and I knew.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:What they dont know wont get me killed when some donkey-cave tries to kill me.

Certainly not, but it could certainly get you in a heap of trouble if they searched you for whatever reason they might have. You keep it in your car or are you just always packing when your in class? Not to be rude, but that would creep me the feth out if I was your classmate and I knew.

I would be guilty of a felony if they caught me. I dont wave it around or anything, I would just prefer to live if anything ever goes down. It wouldnt creep you out if we knew each other in person, I am rather likable. Just ask me

While you're holding a .45 on you? I don't think so.

That hurts :(

Its a gun culture here though, I was raised knowing how to use and carry one. I can guarantee Im quite safe when dealing with them.

Emperors Faithful wrote:

Tyyr wrote:

IvanTih wrote:I hate when unarmed people are killed by someone armed.I would never kill an unarmed person with a weapon.

Much safer to kill them while they're unarmed, preferably while they're back is turned, unconscious if at all possible.

And tied up if at all possible.

I don't get it. The Year 12's (me included) are fairly tightly knit. Apart from a bit of boasting and pay-outs, there's not been anything serious especially no one bringing knives into school or crap like that. (Granted there are only about 30 of us...)

I find it cowardly to kill someone unarmed with a weapon and EF do you mean 30 in class or in the school.