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Only 30 of us in Year 12. And there were only 14 the year before. It's a fairly new school.

Having never been in the posistion where taking the life of another human being ever seemed like an option I hope you realise I was joking IvanTih. That said, better to err on the side of caution...

Emperors Faithful wrote:Only 30 of us in Year 12. And there were only 14 the year before. It's a fairly new school.

Having never been in the posistion where taking the life of another human being ever seemed like an option I hope you realise I was joking IvanTih. That said, better to err on the side of caution...

I know you were joking.

Holy gak

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Holy gak

You mean the picture 1.

Yeh the Horus pic. Scared me worse than the orig artwork. That face... that face....

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Yeh the Horus pic. Scared me worse than the orig artwork. That face... that face....

Do you have the Collected Visions,if you have search from some pic with night lord who was a skull painted over his helmet.That sacred me.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:That hurts :(

Its a gun culture here though, I was raised knowing how to use and carry one. I can guarantee Im quite safe when dealing with them.

"It's a gun culture" isn't particularly accurate. You were raised in an environment that by the sound of it was vastly more laden with firearms than the average U.S. citizen, to the point where you repeatedly commit felonies daily because of it.

Yeh, that about sums it up.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Yeh, that about sums it up.

You should probably stop committing felonies every day to assuage your ego about self protection. You're vastly more likely to be caught, fined, and thrown out of school then you are to be some sort of "hero" in a school shooting.

Man is he going to look stupid if that school shooting happens the next day though.

It certainly isnt about being a hero lol. Nor is it about ego boosting. People are bastard coated bastards with bastard filling and Ive got gak to live for. And around here, if I dont have some kind of weapon, other people do, so Im not going to handicap myself.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:It certainly isnt about being a hero lol. Nor is it about ego boosting. People are bastard coated bastards with bastard filling and Ive got gak to live for. And around here, if I dont have some kind of weapon, other people do, so Im not going to handicap myself.

Maybe you should consider moving to a more friendly state.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:It certainly isnt about being a hero lol. Nor is it about ego boosting. People are bastard coated bastards with bastard filling and Ive got gak to live for. And around here, if I dont have some kind of weapon, other people do, so Im not going to handicap myself.

What do you attend school in the battledome or something?

School of Hard knocks.


No, I go to school in the mountains of Georgia. Where Deliverance was filmed. I hope this sheds some light on my situation. I lived in Hawaii for a while, that was nice, but I dont know enough MMA not to get my ass beat.

Wow, you go to school somewhere near where a film was made?! You must be hard as nails! Nevermind the fact that 'Films aren't real'.

seriously, get out of your basement and try to present an attitude that isn't based off Chuck Norris films. You may get somewhere in life.

J.Black wrote:Wow, you go to school somewhere near where a film was made?! You must be hard as nails! Nevermind the fact that 'Films aren't real'.

seriously, get out of your basement and try to present an attitude that isn't based off Chuck Norris films. You may get somewhere in life.

You can learn a lot from Chuck Norris. For instance, a homeless Chuck Norris (we're talking hypothetically, as the actual thing existing would cause the universe to implode) could teach you how to earn a proper living, as shown below:

J.Black wrote:Wow, you go to school somewhere near where a film was made?! You must be hard as nails! Nevermind the fact that 'Films aren't real'.

seriously, get out of your basement and try to present an attitude that isn't based off Chuck Norris films. You may get somewhere in life.

Wow, way to attack someone exercising rights granted to him/her by our Constitution.

I'm sure most of it is a grab at trying to get a laugh at people with too much starch in their shirts.

He is taking a chance having a knife on him in school but that doesn't make him some psycho or trigger happy nutjob.

I have a .45 as well I keep within reach and a 12 gauge I keep in the gun safe 5 feet from my bed if I need it. Not everyone has the option of leaving their location for a "safer" area.

Carrying a piece doesn't automatically invite violence. In fact it's just the opposite. If more people, women especially, carried guns on them there would probably be a lot less rapes. Not every rapist does so at gun or knife point. Most won't use a weapon to instigate believing that sheer fright and muscle power alone can subdue their victim.

So why not get off your throne your Highness and quit acting you are better than someone who you deem "barbaric?

ShumaGorath wrote:When you surround yourself with violence it intrinsically becomes part of your life.

+1 for this. Violence begets violence. Thats why the police in England don't carry guns.

Firearms are not for carrying around everyday. Just because the constitution says you can, doesn't mean you should. It was drawn up in another age, where there was a very real risk of being invaded, and America didn't have an effective standing army. By all means, be a fan of shooting events- but carrying a .45 around everyday has no advantage other than escalating any incident that might happen to you.

Some Roman/Greek wrote:The sword itself incites us to violence...

That much said, I think it's a little foolish that your own law enforcers aren't allowed to carry firearms.

@OP I suggest moving schools or trying to avoid going near those people.

It makes me sad that if you compare the schools in last decade with this one; the schools today are nothing but more of a threat to kids these days than walking around the street. School massacres, Gang turf wars etc. Hearing things like this makes everything seem so bleak these days

CadianXV wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:When you surround yourself with violence it intrinsically becomes part of your life.

+1 for this. Violence begets violence. Thats why the police in England don't carry guns.

Firearms are not for carrying around everyday. Just because the constitution says you can, doesn't mean you should. It was drawn up in another age, where there was a very real risk of being invaded, and America didn't have an effective standing army. By all means, be a fan of shooting events- but carrying a .45 around everyday has no advantage other than escalating any incident that might happen to you.

Thank God I live in a country where I can walk into any place that isn't a Federal building, a bar/nightclub or shopping mall strapped with a .45 at my side.

Just because someone robs you or carjacks you and MIGHT let you live doesn't mean they always will. If someone intends to carjack me or rob me and then shoot me later I intend to at least go down shooting. Sure I can't know ahead of time if someone is going to kill me after stealing my wallet but neither can anti-gun people claim that he/she would just let me walk away either.

[Thank God I live in a country where I can walk into any place that isn't a Federal building, a bar/nightclub or shopping mall strapped with a .45 at my side.

You're thanking god for the freedom to carry around a device designed to commit a cardinal sin for which you become eternally damned to hell. That doesn't seem a bit ironic to you?

ShumaGorath wrote:

[Thank God I live in a country where I can walk into any place that isn't a Federal building, a bar/nightclub or shopping mall strapped with a .45 at my side.

You're thanking god for the freedom to carry around a device designed to commit a cardinal sin for which you become eternally damned to hell. That doesn't seem a bit ironic to you?

Very ironic indeed,diates aside however,Fate is within his legal rights to carry his firearm (for his own sense of protection).

A bit OT for the OT,but I myself am quite baffled as to why you two even bother to respond to one another,I'd say the chances of either of you ever seeing the others "point" are about equal to my chances of winning the Miss nude Mexico pagent.

[A bit OT for the OT,but I myself am quite baffled as to why you two even bother to respond to one another,I'd say the chances of either of you ever seeing the others "point" are about equal to my chances of winning the Miss nude Mexico pagent.

I like to inform people that the things they say don't make sense when the things they say don't make sense.

FITZZ wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

[Thank God I live in a country where I can walk into any place that isn't a Federal building, a bar/nightclub or shopping mall strapped with a .45 at my side.

You're thanking god for the freedom to carry around a device designed to commit a cardinal sin for which you become eternally damned to hell. That doesn't seem a bit ironic to you?

Very ironic indeed,diates aside however,Fate is within his legal rights to carry his firearm (for his own sense of protection).

A bit OT for the OT,but I myself am quite baffled as to why you two even bother to respond to one another,I'd say the chances of either of you ever seeing the others "point" are about equal to my chances of winning the Miss nude Mexico pagent.

You cant argue with people who like or dislike guns. Its something that your born with. I dont expect him to ever understand why I do it, and I dont ever expect to understand why I shouldn't.

ShumaGorath wrote:

[Thank God I live in a country where I can walk into any place that isn't a Federal building, a bar/nightclub or shopping mall strapped with a .45 at my side.

You're thanking god for the freedom to carry around a device designed to commit a cardinal sin for which you become eternally damned to hell. That doesn't seem a bit ironic to you?

There is certainly alot of irony in your post.

CadianXV wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:When you surround yourself with violence it intrinsically becomes part of your life.

+1 for this. Violence begets violence. Thats why the police in England don't carry guns.

Firearms are not for carrying around everyday. Just because the constitution says you can, doesn't mean you should. It was drawn up in another age, where there was a very real risk of being invaded, and America didn't have an effective standing army. By all means, be a fan of shooting events- but carrying a .45 around everyday has no advantage other than escalating any incident that might happen to you.

Or preventing an incident. You dont understand, and you never will. I am a responsible individual capable of using appropriate judgment. I dont roll up into buildings like a Mexican Bandit, with bandoliers across my chest and six shooters raised high. Nor does anyone who carries a weapon, as you have to know the appropriate laws and procedures for carrying a concealed weapon before you can even use it. Your progressive social thinking isn't how I view the world, nor will it ever be. I am here for myself and my family, and I am to protect both. Will I have to protect them in the mall or at a restaurant, probably not, but thats little consolation for these people. That happened about two hours from where I live.

J.Black wrote:Wow, you go to school somewhere near where a film was made?! You must be hard as nails! Nevermind the fact that 'Films aren't real'.

seriously, get out of your basement and try to present an attitude that isn't based off Chuck Norris films. You may get somewhere in life.

I am happy that you live in a place free of danger. You should thank a soldier or a cop.

You cant argue with people who like or dislike guns. Its something that your born with. I dont expect him to ever understand why I do it, and I dont ever expect to understand why I shouldn't.

I love the hell out of guns, half of my wallpapers are related military or gun items. I'm just not 12 anymore and I understand what the place of guns are in a modern society.

There is certainly alot of irony in your post.

I eat a lot of corn flakes.

Or preventing an incident. You dont understand, and you never will. I am a responsible individual capable of using appropriate judgment. I dont roll up into buildings like a Mexican Bandit, with bandoliers across my chest and six shooters raised high. Nor does anyone who carries a weapon, as you have to know the appropriate laws and procedures for carrying a concealed weapon before you can even use it

While I have no doubt about your capability and judgement assuming everyone that carries a weapon is aware of, cares about, or respects the laws or procedures for carrying a concealed one is foolish. Someone with a concealed carry license is certainly much more likely to be responsible, but not everyone that carries concealed has the right to do so. And when they are bringing lethal weapons onto campus' it doesn't speak well of judgement.

I am happy that you live in a place free of danger. You should thank a soldier or a cop.

Cops yes. Realistically we haven't had a defensive war, or even a universally praised war since world war two. I will thank a soldier for being willing and able to defend us when needed, but I would rather thank the cop twice for actually protecting me.

That hurts :(

Its a gun culture here though, I was raised knowing how to use and carry one. I can guarantee Im quite safe when dealing with them.

@Marshall2Crusaders: I have no doubt that you are a well balanced, responsible individual, well capable of wielding a legal weapon in a safe way. I will not challenge your ability, nor your right to carry such a weapon.

What I will challenge however is gun culture as a whole. My progressive social thinking leads me to believe that in a society where firearms are relatively commonplace, then incidents such as the Penske shootings will also become relatively commonplace, or at the least more so than in a society where the majority of people do not carry firearms.

I can see your argument of wanting to defend your family- I want to defend my loved ones as well, however whilst owning a firearm is one way of doing this, my opinion is that by doing so, you create a worse environment for your family, because others will be forced to resort to carrying a lethal weapon to defend their families.

I am obviously aware that you did not start this trend, but I lament the fact that it exists regardless.

ShumaGorath wrote:

You cant argue with people who like or dislike guns. Its something that your born with. I dont expect him to ever understand why I do it, and I dont ever expect to understand why I shouldn't.

I love the hell out of guns, half of my wallpapers are related military or gun items. I'm just not 12 anymore and I understand what the place of guns are in a modern society.

There is certainly alot of irony in your post.

I eat a lot of corn flakes.

Or preventing an incident. You dont understand, and you never will. I am a responsible individual capable of using appropriate judgment. I dont roll up into buildings like a Mexican Bandit, with bandoliers across my chest and six shooters raised high. Nor does anyone who carries a weapon, as you have to know the appropriate laws and procedures for carrying a concealed weapon before you can even use it

While I have no doubt about your capability and judgement assuming everyone that carries a weapon is aware of, cares about, or respects the laws or procedures for carrying a concealed one is foolish. Someone with a concealed carry license is certainly much more likely to be responsible, but not everyone that carries concealed has the right to do so. And when they are bringing lethal weapons onto campus' it doesn't speak well of judgement.

I am happy that you live in a place free of danger. You should thank a soldier or a cop.

Cops yes. Realistically we haven't had a defensive war, or even a universally praised war since world war two. I will thank a soldier for being willing and able to defend us when needed, but I would rather thank the cop twice for actually protecting me.

Yes because 12yo's glorify carrying guns around. Responsible adults conceal them and don't brandish them around (conceal being a loose term as the holster itself doesn't have to be concealed, just that the gun has to be holstered and not in your hand or your waistband of your pants.

Everyone who carries concealed (at least has the proper permits) has the right do so. There are quite a lot of stipulations in the CC permit process. Look at the app sometime. It's not like applying for a loan or credit card. Have a history of mental illness? No permit for you. Have a felony on your record? No permit for you. Have a OoP against you? No permit for you. Hell, those 3 even prevent you from getting the permit to legally buy and you have to be able to legally buy to be able to legally carry. There is no way around that. The nutjobs shooting up schools and malls aren't carrying or buying their guns legally (with the exception of the Vtech students) so isolated incidents do happen but it's not as if every criminal takes the time to make sure he's "legal" first.

Has a cop actually come to your aid when some psycho with a gun or knife wanted to kill you? If so than I'm glad he got there in time. If not then don't be so quick to thank cops who haven't defended you anymore than a soldier has.

Has a cop actually come to your aid when some psycho with a gun or knife wanted to kill you? If so than I'm glad he got there in time. If not then don't be so quick to thank cops who haven't defended you anymore than a soldier has.

The difference being its the cops job, not the soldiers. I could just as well thank a plumber for the same thing since it hasn't actually happened. That doesn't mean it makes sense.