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2010/03/29 04:38:05
Subject: Re: Women in Music. (Favorite female artist)
Gwar! wrote:Debate it all you want, I just report what the rules actually say. It's up to others to tie their panties in a Knot. I stopped caring long ago.
2010/03/29 17:36:43
Subject: Re: Women in Music. (Favorite female artist)
Da Boss wrote:No no, Richard Dawkins arresting the Pope is inherently hilarious. It could only be funnier if when it happens, His Holiness exclaims "Rats, it's the Fuzz! Let's cheese it!" and a high speed Popemobile chase ensues.
2010/03/29 22:53:24
Subject: Re: Women in Music. (Favorite female artist)
I'll also mention Tracy Bonham because her mind is beautiful and she can be incredibly melodic and craft such wonderful sounds overall. "In My Other Life" is one of my favorite songs of all time, though I can't find the full thing anywhere to post: http://s0.ilike.com/play#Tracy+Bonham:In+My+Other+Life:42079993:m34638739
My life would be a little less whole without either of these ladies
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2010/03/30 03:05:26
Subject: Re: Women in Music. (Favorite female artist)
Excellent choice in Imogen Heap, she's got the voice of an angel. I picked up Megaphone years ago and was hooked.
I've been pleased to note her work being used in film and trailers etc.
I love this one from the new album.
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Hmm.. a topic after my own heart..... I probably listen to more music in this catagory than ..... most.
Where to start?..... Cheri Currie from the Runaways, as well as Lita Ford, Doro Pesch, Johnette Napolitano from Concrete Blonde
The Original Metal Queen - Lee Aaron,
Does Jazz now but still has pipes.
Cassandra from The Vincent Black Shadow, Anette Olzen from Nightwish,
Lorraine Lewis from Femme Fatale,
Patricia Day from the Horrorpops, Asrai, Lennon Murphy, Sharon den Adel from Within Temptation,
Liv from Sister Sin,
A few bands I dont recall the lead singer of.... My Ruin, The Birthday Massacre, Lacuna Coil, Xandria, Elis, After Forever,
Oh.... and Chrissy Steele
And many more.....
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Gwar! wrote:Debate it all you want, I just report what the rules actually say. It's up to others to tie their panties in a Knot. I stopped caring long ago.
2010/03/30 15:18:25
Subject: Re: Women in Music. (Favorite female artist)
Well, a german band, Blutengel, though I doubt it's for everyone and I can understand people not liking the obvious accent. There is some male vocals in it too though.
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“The radio is used to a certain perfection and it compresses the voice in a certain kind of way, it smooshes all of the sound together so it sounds smaller but fatter, its not open, very condensed. Unless you are Duffy, where its this extremely organic record, its important to play into the psychology of the listener who is used to a certain sonic quality in the voice. If they don’t hear that, its not hip.”
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Listen to her live. On The Fame two songs had minor instances of what I'd call "auto-tune" (one part of Just Dance and the entirety of Paper Gansta, which is a track satirizing the industry and intentionally over-used. In later performances she purposely cranks it way the heck up on that one). She actually sings, and one blurb on a picture on a the internet and a quote talking about how her voice is filtered in recording like anyone else's by no means indicate a horrible misuse of auto tune or any lack of talent. She is far more natural sounding than anyone else within her genre. Try getting past any bias you might have before attacking someone who's actually improving a genre once thought dead.
what genre? shitpop? completely manufactured, over-produced, piss?
I have read and heard people comparing her to Michael Jackson, which is fething heresy. She is just another pop icon that will fade in a year or so. The (particularly American) public is so easily manipulated... We are so used to having whatever is crammed down our throats forcefully like a skull feth just being "the norm", that we fail to see that this crap we are forced to listen to over and over and over until it becomes part of our psyche.....is horrible.
Sorry, man....Lady Gaga isn't that good...
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"I also found out that Lady Gaga is a rich kid. She went to the same high school as Caroline Kennedy and the Hilton sisters, and I never bothered looking her up before because of the whole weak chin thing. I guess I should have known she came from a rich family. You know lookin’ like that and having a career, only means one thing and that thing is that there is money behind her. The only thing coming out of the middle class or lower class is hot chicks that broke free, the ugly chicks who find fame are always rich, I mean otherwise they’d be working in cubicles hating their lonely lives wishing they could find a man to knock them up or some gak.
Either way, I should have known she was a rich kid though, I mean she always pushes this fashion and art thing. She always has to say how into art and fashion and music she is to make sure we don’t forget and confuse her for some kind of popstar and for the most part that repetition usually works and when people hear her name brought up they drop useless facts in conversation like “I hear she’s into fashion and art” eventually making us all forget that she’s a little rich kid trying too hard.
She’s even labeled her gakky pop music as it’s own genre of progressive electro pop or some gak, to keep the street cred she tried so hard to maintain all those nights spent in the Lower East Side listening to the best New York Electro DJs and fully absorbing herself into their world, by learning everything she could about the fashion and art to not seem like the fething poser she is.
Truth is that it happens all the time. The rich become the fashion/art fanatics because the poor are too busy being poor and having jobs to pay off debt and just don’t have time to try to find something real to identify with because we are already living it and like the rich kids, hate everything about our lives, but not able to find a way out because we’re trapped. But the rich can buy vintage clothes, go out on weeknights, take art classes, go to museums and openings with with other rich people who are trying to denounce being rich kids, and who end up producing random gak all day before getting their disappointed parents to bankroll their careers and nurture their talents leading to number one selling albums, popular t-shirt lines and celebrity DJ careers.
I don’t know if that rant makes sense, but to simplify it, the hipster electro scene is made up of rich kids trying to ignore being rich by living this bohemian cocaine fueled life where they are out in clubs every night, in ratty clothes, sucking dj dick and living in artist lofts, eventually getting daddy to invest in their side projects that they ripped off from a poor person, and he agrees because they dropped out of college and he doesn’t want embarrassing kids, that will lead to getting the same street cred as the real talent in the scene they’ve attached themselves to. Not that any of that matters, it’s just fething lame."
"Musically it sounds like a group of faceless euro dj’s named Bjorn and Fabrio circa 1994 or early 2000’s Madonna meets the pitch-corrected vocal mind-rape of modern pop and r’n’b. Visually it appears to be a over produced transvestite Mardi Gras of sexual nightmares, although that isn’t uncommon these days"
For what it's worth, I agree with IG_Urban up to a point. I don't rate her. She's basically an updated version of Madonna, with poorer songs.
But 'manufactured', 'commercial' pop music isn't really anything new, and definitely isn't worth getting worked up about. Some people like her, some people don't.
Meh.
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oh I agree, but stating the Man Gaga is worthy of being compared to Michael Jackson, or stating that she is anything more than she is, a over-hyped-over-produced hot mess, is silly.
The comparison between Madona and Lady Gaga is interesting,and I do see quite a few similiarites,many of wich Albatross pointed out.
What amuses me most is that I am old enough to remember when Madona was just starting out,I saw her on some MTV awards show and laughed stating "Bubble gum crap-she'll never last.",20+ years later she is still around.
However,Madona has managed to "reinvent" herself many times,thus keeping the "microwave mentality" public interested enough to continue to buy her music.
I wonder if Lady Gaga is capable of the same sort of thing,I simply wont dismiss her,as I did with Madona...but IMO it's almost like seeing the same horse again.
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2010/03/31 02:52:01
Subject: Re: Women in Music. (Favorite female artist)
I get it, but old Madonna had more of a classic sound to her music. Yes. she employed an array of weird clothes and videos and what not...but Man Gaga is cashing in on a VERY niche genre of electropop.....(flashes of Eiffel 65). I mean, Man Gaga has surpassed her half life, she brought too much in the beginning. She used up all of her fuel, now, like a dying star, she is going to collapse in on herself. IF she does last longer then the next couple of years, it is going to be a clean, acoustic, weirdly almost christian outlook...just like Christina Aguilerarejh- whatever. Ha, because that would be weirder than anything else she can do....
But, if I hit my 40s, and that glitter-tranny is still around, I will put my size 12 adidas into my mouth.
The stupidity and sheep-like nature of the American Public has baffled me before....
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Albatross wrote:Agreed.
EDIT: And good call on Bat For Lashes - now, she IS good.
thanks. She is amazing.
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Cannerus, try to understand that whilst your interest in GaGa are borderline psychotic, most hetro blokes in the age range of 15 to 40 wouldn't piss on it if it were on fire, so love her music but understand musical taste is relative.
Anti-mag, you're really too good to post in any thread in dakka, so, you know what to do to be tru to yo'self blud!
Kate Bush was on the pub jukebox the other day and some oik described her as a 'screetchy bitch' and went and put some Cheryl Cole on instead.
I hope he falls under an omnibus!!
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