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That's a good theory. Is it yours? Or did it come out of the fluff? It is definitely believable.

It's canon background, from the old RT era books. Orks used to have lots of alien hangers-on because naturally they could do things orks couldn't, like come up with long-term coherent battle plans, and also to act as a status symbol to other orks.

In 'Ere We Go the Blood Axe Warboss Bogrot was pictured with his human advisor Skumgrod who was secretly Captain Sebastus Syrong of the Imperial Guard.

It's also cannon from the Armagedon codex BTW. There were human traitors, but that was more like the Warboss playing them.

I think the Mechanicus could turn them into Servators, it's not anywhere in the fiction but why not? Then you would say "These here orks count as...(ogryns, gun servos etc.)".

As far as full blood Orks working with Humans, it could never happen. Orks populate too quickley I've always attributed their tendancy for war to this and their violent nature. Take a violent population that is quickley running out of resources and has numbers to burn and you have a war host. An IG regiment wouldn't be able to keep up with the demands from the Orks and a revolution would break out. Sounds like a good story though...

Orks using traitor humans plausible.

Humans raising Orks:

ComputerGeek01 wrote:I think the Mechanicus could turn them into Servators, it's not anywhere in the fiction but why not? Then you would say "These here orks count as...(ogryns, gun servos etc)".

While it's probably physically possible, I would have a hard time believing that isn't some major tech-heresy. After all, the reason they use partially organic servitors in the first place is to connect the sacred human body with the machine.

ZoomDakkaDakka wrote:

usernamesareannoying wrote:i think it comes down to power. whoever has the power has control of the orks.
blood axes have been known to work with humans.
orks can even come to respect and almost fear humans. Yarrick is well known for being "dead 'ard" amongst the orks.

now can they be considered friendly... probably not. can they be used as a tool and kept on a leash... id think so.

That's more of a respect than anything, like how in one white dwarf article, they mentioned that they had a respect for the God Emperor, as he was seen as a "War God" to them.
Anyways, I agree with what everyone else has said, and also, Orks will grow with the stimulus of battle, so even if there was a peaceful Ork, it would most likely be incredibly weak and sickly.

Everybody loves Emperor.
You might earn the respect of the orks by killing warboss,but in the end some kunning ork will attempt to kill you.

Chaotic Neutral or Free Spirit is an individualist who follows his or her own heart, and generally shirks rules and traditions. Good and Evil come a distant second to their needs or personal freedom, and the only reliable thing about them is how totally unreliable they are. They typically act out of self-interest, but are not themselves inclined towards evil.

I could see an ork raised to be a war machine for another race, though I don't really see the need for it. In the Dawn of War II game the Eldar just manipulate them into working towards their goals, so breeding orks isn't really necessary. Besides, as far as humans are concerned the best way to handle an ork or any xenos for that matter is with a bolter shot to the head... and a few more for good measure.

Orks cannot be raised to 'be good'.

However, humans can fall under the influence of the Orks' psychic subconscious and join the Waaagh! (Yep, it's in the Witch Hunters codex)

You're making me wonder about some kind of Xenobiology lab where they could control Orks with eletrical pulses or something?

"You try 'smash me' Ork, and I'll press the button!"

"NO, NOT DA BUTTON!"

If Orks can never serve humans, can they... fall in love with them???

Orkeosaurus wrote:If Orks can never serve humans, can they... fall in love with them???

Maybe, Orkeo, maybe. Can love really bloom on the battlefield?

Orks don´t love, love is a means to an end: Reproduction. Orks don't need it to reproduce so are most likely incapable of the emotion.

As for Orks in IG, they would never accept a command from a human, too pink and weak. Unless it's Yarick, Yarick would make a good Warboss...

Did that joke really go that far over your head?

Cheese Elemental wrote:

Orkeosaurus wrote:If Orks can never serve humans, can they... fall in love with them???

Maybe, Orkeo, maybe. Can love really bloom on the battlefield?

Can squads be broken on one?

Cheese Elemental wrote:Did that joke really go that far over your head?

No but I felt like elaborating on something useless for the sake of killing some perverts dreams.

Orkeosaurus wrote:

Cheese Elemental wrote:

Orkeosaurus wrote:If Orks can never serve humans, can they... fall in love with them???

Maybe, Orkeo, maybe. Can love really bloom on the battlefield?

Can squads be broken on one?

No. NO, NO, NO. I am NOT linking to that again. I got a harsh enough telling-off from the mods last time.

Cheese Elemental wrote:

Orkeosaurus wrote:

Cheese Elemental wrote:

Orkeosaurus wrote:If Orks can never serve humans, can they... fall in love with them???

Maybe, Orkeo, maybe. Can love really bloom on the battlefield?

Can squads be broken on one?

No. NO, NO, NO. I am NOT linking to that again. I got a harsh enough telling-off from the mods last time.

I don't get it... :\

The old ones didn't make the orks as they are now.

The old ones created the "Brain Boys" who controlled the orks. There was a catastrophe and the fungus that allowed the brainboys to do this was wiped out.

The brainboys regressed (Charly style) and their current incarnation is as snotlings and grots. The orks are not smarter than they were - it's just that their previously controlling "masters" are now dumber than a box of hammers and the orks seem smarter in comparison.

Cheese Elemental wrote: Can love really bloom on the battlefield

Soladrin & anyone else interested P.M. me & I'll send you a link to the story. The site its on is NOT BY ANY MEANS sfw, so I can't link it publically.